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Tar Holes NOA from the NCAA

Jmhd sounds like a dayum liberul with all his responsibility dodging logic
 
Andy Katz and Seth Greenburg ESPN podcast on SMU, some CBB interviews but at 41:30 mark they get around to Tarholes. http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=13777929
sorry if embed doesn't work.

Glad that a former coach recognizes that this is an institutional issue with severe federal & state implications (fraud)- not just an athletic department problem. Sure, they should be penalized for the academic fraud that allowed many athletes to compete and win championships, but the college should be held responsible for the fraudulent classes/programs they received SACS accreditation for and for the federal & state money they took to fund the classes/programs.
 
Think back and recall how those classes were started and who started them. If the NCAA says it is an academic problem and ends at that then I would question why the NCAA exists. And further wonder how long they will continue to exist given their mission and their action.
 
If there is an academic issue with classes that "student-athletes" are taking then it is also an eligibility issue. Anything else is absurd.
 
UNC admits to spending 7.5 million in legal and PR fees in an effort to minimize the fall-out from this scandal. Public funds?
 
UNC admits to spending 7.5 million in legal and PR fees in an effort to minimize the fall-out from this scandal. Public funds?

"Nope." They are using the Planned Parenthood accounting defense to deny it.
 
Of course public funds go to the legal and PR fees. Just not directly. UNC can say that it does not use public funds for those fees as it can earmark donations or income from another sources as paying those fees, but at the end of the day, that money which UNC used to pay the legal and PR fees is not available for some other purpose, which the public funds will be used for. Creative accounting can justify whatever position UNC wants to take.
 
Says she is worried about the academic integrity of the players, changes two final grade F's to D's and ignores obvious cheating in order to keep players eligible. This isn't just a single AFAM professor. The document dump reveals that this stuff occurs in multiple programs. The corruption runs deep and throughout the entire athlete academic support system. The Carolina Way...

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http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-ba...ud-investigation-almost-done-mark-emmert-ncaa

The NCAA and University of North Carolina's lengthy investigation into academic fraud in the school's athletic department is in its final stages.
NCAA president Mark Emmert told USA Today Sports that while he has not set a deadline for the investigation to conclude, “Sometime in the relatively near future we’ll move toward a resolution.”

The academic violations occurred over almost a 20-year period — from 1993 through 2011 — and involved multiple sports and more than 3,000 student-athletes, including members of the university's perennially successful basketball team. The Tar Heels face Notre Dame Sunday in the Elite Eight of the NCAA Tournament.

It has obviously been a long, drawn-out process,’’ Emmert told USA Today. “It took the university a long time to gather the facts on their end.

“They wanted that opportunity and everyone was pleased to give them that opportunity, or willing to give them that opportunity. And it’s actually been moving forward well and in a cooperative collaborate fashion like these things are supposed to.’’

MORE: Roy Williams would have 'hard time' leaving amid investigations

The initial probe began in July 2010 and uncovered violations in the school's football program that led to sanctions.

Last May, the NCAA charged North Carolina with five Level I violations, constituting a "severe breach of conduct." The charges mainly concerned the university's former African and Afro-American Studies department, and included allegations that athletes in essence took "fake" classes and received improper help completing assignments, all in a bid to boost their GPA.

The university had been expected to release its response to those charges in August, but after uncovering other potential violations, the university and NCAA agreed to try to resolve the matter by October.

The NCAA Committee on Infractions must hear the case before any penalties are issued. Speculation on what those penalties might be is rampant, but most observers don't believe the men's football or basketball teams will have to vacate any wins or championships. A postseason ban is possible, however, and scholarship restrictions and hefty fines seem to be the expected minimum.
 
The NCAA Committee on Infractions must hear the case before any penalties are issued. Speculation on what those penalties might be is rampant, but most observers don't believe the men's football or basketball teams will have to vacate any wins or championships. A postseason ban is possible, however, and scholarship restrictions and hefty fines seem to be the expected minimum.

Okay, somebody explain to me how most observers don't believe the men's football or basketball teams will have to vacate any wins or championships?

Marcus Camby accepting $40k in cash from an agent was enough for the NCAA to vacate UMass and Calipari's 1996 NCAAT run.

According to the NCAA, Derrick Rose committed "knowing fraudulence or misconduct in connection with his entrance examination" and Memphis had to vacate its 2007-2008 season as a result.

Every player who basketball and football played for UNC and who majored in African and Afro-American Studies* was academically ineligible. Every damn win over that period of time, which includes three NCAA National Championships (possibly four if they win this year), should be vacated.

*I'm assuming that majors earned their majors by taking a majority of paper classes.
 
NCAA president Mark Emmert told USA Today Sports that while he has not set a deadline for the investigation to conclude, “Sometime in the relatively near future we’ll move toward a resolution.”

"Right after they win the National Championship we'll ban them from postseason play."
 
How can the NCAA say that UNC "cooperated" with this investigation. They have done everything possible to cover up, and are only cooperating after the damning information was made public. This has gone on for five years because UNC was not cooperative. I have a good source who says from the time the first football tweets broke athletic admin folks at UNC were instructed to protect the National Championships for basketball at any cost. Any cost included fake investigations, refusal to release public documents, silencing witnesses, and millions of dollars. The NCAA is a sham (big surprise).
 
I saw the tail end of them talking about it in studio before the Hoos-Cuse game and Kellogg was saying they should be some significant penalties against UNC.
 
I saw the tail end of them talking about it in studio before the Hoos-Cuse game and Kellogg was saying they should be some significant penalties against UNC.

As there should be. I hope UNC wins the championship this year, Roy gets the trophy and the NCAA takes it away from them on the podium.

The success this year is built on the fraudulent foundation of years past.
 
As there should be. I hope UNC wins the championship this year, Roy gets the trophy and the NCAA takes it away from them on the podium.

The success this year is built on the fraudulent foundation of years past.

You expect the same NCAA to take away a trophy after they treated Syracuse as such:

Britton Banowsky, chief hearing officer for the NCAA, said in a teleconference after the report was released that because most of the violations occurred before the NCAA installed a new penalty structure last year, Syracuse and Boeheim won't have to face more severe punishment. That could have included a two-year postseason ban for the team and a season-long suspension for the coach.

They also reviewed information back to 2001, but made sure not to touch the 2003 national title.
 
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