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This is rjk's and other's candidate

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ment-personal-server-investigation-fbi-214016

I'll take my chances with trump

The media has spent a lot of time parsing through the Clinton emails that already have been released—compiling lists, looking for specific names or discussion of particular issues. But they ought to pay more attention to the holes. Bob Woodward has declared that Hillary Clinton’s email scandal “reminds me of the Nixon tapes.” He’s right. In that case and here, it’s not what’s in the record that’s most troubling. It’s what’s not there.
 
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Hopefully Comey will be asked about some of these things at the hearing this morning.

What the FBI didn't say about Hillary Clinton’s email
What was not said about precedent
The standards applied in the Clinton case are at variance with how classified information violations elsewhere in the government are handled.

As examples, the cases of CIA officer John Kiriakou (who served three years in federal prison for exposing a single, unmarked, unclassified business card with the name of a CIA employee), and TSA air marshal Robert Maclean (fired for exposing a text retroactively classified) stand out. Major Jason Brezler, who sent classified information to fellow Marines in Afghanistan to warn them about a Taliban conspirator, was forced out of the service. Even General David Petraeus, who transmitted classified information via his Gmail account to his mistress, received limited legal punishment and was forced to resign.

But perhaps with an eye toward others mounting a future national security violation “Hillary defense,” Comey did add “To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.”
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What was not said about the Freedom of Information Act
Comey did not discuss Clinton's actions and the Freedom of Information Act.

During her tenure as secretary of state and for some time afterwards, the State Department maintained it had no Clinton email records to produce in response to requests. Those statements – while technically true in that State could not search Clinton's personal server – blocked journalists, private citizens, and for a time, Congress, from documents they were lawfully entitled to see.

The State Department's own inspector general found these actions to be in contravention of the Federal Records Act.
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What was not said about perjury and obstruction
Hillary Clinton's earliest statements, that no classified information traversed her server, later changed to "no marked" classified information. Comey explained emails found in others' inboxes, messages not turned over by Clinton to the State Department, were work-related. Clinton claimed she turned over all work-related emails. Despite this, the questions of perjury and obstruction of justice were not addressed.

In addition, Comey stated Clinton's lawyers deleted all emails they did not turn over to the State Department and then cleaned their devices in such a way to preclude complete forensic recovery. He added “It is also likely that there are other work-related e-mails that they did not produce to State and that we did not find elsewhere.” None of this was addressed in the context of destruction of evidence.
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What was not said about intent
Comey stated some 110 emails were classified when they were transmitted and received via Clinton's personal email server. Comey stressed that he did not find evidence that Clinton intended to violate any laws, or that her actions rose to “gross negligence.” He did not explain the rationale behind this finding.

There was no electronic connection between the government's classified systems and Clinton's unclassified server. This indicates that on 110 separate occasions Clinton and/or one of her correspondents had to have retyped – or copied and pasted – information from a classified format; there is no other method to transfer data. Classified markings (i.e., "Top Secret") were removed in the process (though Comey did say some marked classified emails were also found on the server).

The Inspector General for the Intelligence Community stated some of the documents were marked at the highest levels, including one about North Korea’s nuclear weapons program. At least 47 of the Clinton emails released contain the Freedom of Information Act release exemption B3 CIA PERS/ORG, which indicates the material referred to CIA personnel matters. Some emails show semi-oblique references to CIA staffers, known as “talk arounds,” to avoid mentioning a name or position per se.

Comey made clear the sensitivity of some of the information, saying “seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending emails about those matters and receiving emails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position... should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation.”

Whether information was marked or unmarked is irrelevant. Standard Form 312, signed by Clinton and every security clearance holder in the government, specifically notes that the laws apply to both marked and unmarked classified material. The legality of retroactive classification has been tested by the Supreme Court, which let stand a lower court decision that the practice was legal.

While Comey maintains there was no intent or gross negligence by Clinton to violate the law, it is difficult to reconcile her actions and his statement.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-clinton-fbi-commentary-idUSKCN0ZM1TG
 
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Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say
When the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said on Tuesday that his investigators had no “direct evidence” that Hillary Clinton’s email account had been “successfully hacked,” both private experts and federal investigators immediately understood his meaning: It very likely had been breached, but the intruders were far too skilled to leave evidence of their work.

Mr. Comey described, in fairly blistering terms, a set of email practices that left Mrs. Clinton’s systems wide open to Russian and Chinese hackers, and an array of others. She had no full-time cybersecurity professional monitoring her system. She took her BlackBerry everywhere she went, “sending and receiving work-related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries.” Her use of “a personal email domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent.”

In the end, the risks created by Mrs. Clinton’s insistence on keeping her communications on a private server may prove to be a larger issue than the relatively small amount of classified data investigators said they found on her system. But the central mystery — who got into the system, if anyone — may never be resolved.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/07/us/hillary-clintons-email-was-probably-hacked-experts-say.html?_r=0
 
marquee moon said:
This is rjk's and other's candidate

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ment-personal-server-investigation-fbi-214016

I'll take my chances with trump

The media has spent a lot of time parsing through the Clinton emails that already have been released—compiling lists, looking for specific names or discussion of particular issues. But they ought to pay more attention to the holes. Bob Woodward has declared that Hillary Clinton’s email scandal “reminds me of the Nixon tapes.” He’s right. In that case and here, it’s not what’s in the record that’s most troubling. It’s what’s not there.
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Such great choices we have.

A pathological liar who is easily bought and a white supremacist pathological liar who allegedly raped children and his wife.
 
Trump raped children? Says who, the same few kids who threw my man MJ under the bus?
 
CreamyGoodness said:
Trump raped children? Says who, the same few kids who threw my man MJ under the bus?
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Gloria Allred's daughter wrote a HuffPo article that is about an anonymous woman accusing Trump of rape when she was a child. She claims to have been one of the children Jeffrey Epstein used. It's linked to on the Trump thread. It's well known Bill Clinton was very close friends with Epstein, regularly flew on his plane the "Lolita Express" (even ditching his security detail several times), so it's a bit odd seeing Trump now linked to him as well. The woman claims Trump threatened to have her family killed.
 
So we can go back to the "well if so and so did (insert scandal here), then..." actually screw it, but i'd appreciate a link to Clinton ditching his security detail several times to ride on the "lolita express."
 
Maybe you should stop starting new threads, champ.
 
BobStackFan4Life said:
The Comey hearing is all the way live!
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To summarize...

Republican: WTF, dude!?
Democrat: You are awesome.
Republican: WTF!?
Democrat: You ooze integrity.
Republican: WTF!?
Democrat: Tell me about Colin Powell.
Republican: WTF!?
Democrat: You are so clearly a man of honor.
Republican: WTF!?
Democrat: This is all political theater and watch me say so in a politically theatric manner.
Republican: WTF!?
 
Irony- Jason Chaffetz, the king of this kangaroo court, handles many classified documents. On his business card is his PRIVATE email address.

EDIT: Members of Congress are allowed to have personal servers, multiple devices, multiple email addresses.

Now the committee about "referring" a charge to get the FBI to charge Hillary with lying to Congress.

I wonder how long after she is inaugurated that this group of yahoos in the House start impeachment proceedings.
 
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WFU71 said:
I'd consider voting for him over Trump and Clinton without knowing anything else about him.
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Comey is eating the attacks like a tiny appetizer. They are totally out of their class with him.
 
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