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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

18 candidates + Big XII = 28 desperate teams

Well, not all of the Big XII is desperate as OK & Texas can go anywhere west, north or even south with the SEC if they want to go to 16. Ok St is in good shape and maybe even Kansas because of their basketball program. But hell yea, who of those 16 or 18 other teams would not be desperate to get into a new Big XII!!!!! When the AAC is paying at most $3 mill per school and CUSA is at about $1.5 mill and you can jump up to around $30+ mill, every A.D. in America wants to interview.

If this thing actually breaks up one day because Texas or OK get pulled away by a bigger lure of a Power 4 sixteen team conference, Iowa State needs to worry, maybe K State because I haven't seen anything that keeps them with Kansas [and luckily for us, we have the 20 year deal the ACC just put together and the coming ACC Network that should keep all of us in]

Nobody wants to get left out of the football playoffs but as of now there are only 4 spots and 5 power conferences. 2 years ago it was the Big XII and last year the Pac 12. This year who knows? If all goes exactly right, the ACC could get 2 if powers FSU & Clemson were to go 13-0 & 11-1, same in the SEC with Bama & LSU. The conference that may have the toughest time again this year because of the depth & toughness of the conference is the Pac 12. They have to play a 9 game schedule and most of their teams are inside the power indexes top 50. USC plays 10 of them, UCLA plays 9 as do many others in their league. On the other hand Clemson only plays 5. [Houston only plays 2 so should they beat OK in the opener they have only Louisville at home late in the season--can't say they should even be considered]. Most SEC West teams like Bama & LSU have 7 or 8. Now we see why everybody wants schedule parity & 9 game conference schedules.
 
For FSU (13-0) and Clemson (11-1) to both make it, the ACC would have to be strong and Auburn and/or SC would need to win their division, and the Big XII, Pac-12, and SEC or Big Ten would have to have a weak champ.
 
For FSU (13-0) and Clemson (11-1) to both make it, the ACC would have to be strong and Auburn and/or SC would need to win their division, and the Big XII, Pac-12, and SEC or Big Ten would have to have a weak champ.

Long season Ph. ACC is already starting the season with our only 2 strong teams ranked at 2 & 3 in most polls and certainly not outside anybody's top 5. Pac 12 is so competitive that having somebody with only 1 loss will be near impossible, just like last year's Stanford team. Look at USC opening with Alabama, having to play @ Stanford, @ Washington, @ UCLA & Notre Dame. 2nd best in the pre-season UCLA has @ Tex A & M, @ BYU, Stanford, @ Wazu & USC. While the ACC is definitely not strong over all, we have 2 of the strongest teams at the top with Louisville climbing along with, unfortunately, the Tar Holes. The Big XII has only OK this year amongst the top, but Texas as a possible surprise and maybe Ok St if their defense comes around. The Big 10 is the conference on the rise with Coach Khaki pants getting Michigan up in the playoff picture in his 2nd year, no schedule to speak of, but he still has to go thru @ Ohio St & @ Mich St this year. But much like the ACC, they are stacked in the same side of the conference with only 1 able to immerge unless the other has 1 loss.
 
Clemson's best win would be what, Louisville at home? Imminenetly arguable they would be the only top 25 team they would've beaten if they finish 11-1, lose to FSU and don't play in the ACCCG. And Loui is no lock to finish in the top 25 themselves.

Making the CFP last year would be a feather in their cap, but not sure that lack of quality wins could be overcome. Could definitely see a 2-loss SEC or Pac-12 champion jumping them
 
Clemson's best win would be what, Louisville at home? Imminenetly arguable they would be the only top 25 team they would've beaten if they finish 11-1, lose to FSU and don't play in the ACCCG. And Loui is no lock to finish in the top 25 themselves.

Making the CFP last year would be a feather in their cap, but not sure that lack of quality wins could be overcome. Could definitely see a 2-loss SEC or Pac-12 champion jumping them

Don't forget starting off @ Auburn gives them a lot of brownie points so even if they happen to lose in Tallahassee, finishing 11-1 gives them a go, depending on what the rest of the nation does. But that is getting far ahead of ourselves. Just look at last year and the what ifs? Say that the Ole Miss-Ark game had not turned on that whacky play at the end. Bama does not get in the SEC title game so do they get in as the #4 seed. Tons of stuff out there because 2 of the best teams not playing in the playoffs were certainly Ohio St & Stanford just based on their bowl games in whipping ND & Iowa [plus the way Clemson & Bama decimated Ok & Mich St in the playoffs]. But that is not what counts. The Buckeye Nation whined all winter but they did not get it done against Mich St when it counted, their first tough test of the season, so tough stuff. That is what makes this 4 team format so great--the regular season matters so much!
 
Not sure why Auburn is that impressive, unless they turn things around demonstrably this year. And if beating a middling SEC team is that impressive, then that only supports a 2-loss SEC team over an 11-1 Clemson.

Worth noting 2-loss Stanford finished ahead of 1-loss Ohio State last year, and an 11-1 Clemp would share an awful lot with the Buckeyes -- lack of quality wins, lack of schedule, highly-ranked team preseason, CFP-participant the year before, etc.
 
Yep. And if you wanted to flip the records, substitute Ole Miss and UF for Auburn and SC and it would apply as well.

It's very hard for two teams in the same division to make the CFP as it should be.
 
If they're two of the four best teams I don't think it should matter they're in the same division. But it would be too easy to poke holes in Clemson's resume (as it was with O$U)
 
Yep. And if you wanted to flip the records, substitute Ole Miss and UF for Auburn and SC and it would apply as well.

It's very hard for two teams in the same division to make the CFP as it should be.

Not really. CFP is made for 4 best team in college football. That might be hard but a 1 loss & undefeated can certainly accomplish it with tough schedules and being the best Somebody is going to be left out anyway with 4 teams out of 5 so there might be 2 teams if there are 2 way above the rest.

On another note today the Big XII was said to come out that only 2 teams are coming into the league as there is not going to be a Big XII network according to sources on College Sirius. They said they are interviewing 18 teams because of what the college presidents want, not necessarily what the AD's or coaches want and they want to find the best overall fit. Still should be Houston & Cincy given what they know but SD St, USF, UCF, Temple, Boise, BYU are just a few among the 18 being given a chance.
 
Yep. So what if you're in a strong conference and the runner-up is 11-1.



And conferences with smaller TV contracts can earn extra cash on the field by winning in the CFP.
 
UNLV interviews as well.

 
UNLV interviews as well.


What a load of crappy teams. Maybe they can change the name of the conference to the Big Turd.
 
Big XII wants a super conference? Make one with 25% of existing Division I teams.
 
In other news according to reporter Mark Blaudschun, UConn will leave the American after Big XII expansion is done whether they get selected or not.

Kinda can't blame them but what is the plan here? Re-join the Big East and go Indy in football? Go completely Indy and hope for the ACC or B1G somehow?




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