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Bowl projections

On the ESPN site today for latest bowl scenarios, one has us in DC and another has us at the Pinstripe. At this point in the season the ACC only has 3 losing teams so GT is in the mix. Only Duke, UVa & BC have losing records. Who would have thought at this point in the season that Mich St at 2-5 has the same overall record as Illinois & is actually 0-4 in the Big Ten? Weird year. Hopefully we won't have to worry about The Domers taking one of our ACC spots this year.
 
On the ESPN site today for latest bowl scenarios, one has us in DC and another has us at the Pinstripe. At this point in the season the ACC only has 3 losing teams so GT is in the mix. Only Duke, UVa & BC have losing records. Who would have thought at this point in the season that Mich St at 2-5 has the same overall record as Illinois & is actually 0-4 in the Big Ten? Weird year. Hopefully we won't have to worry about The Domers taking one of our ACC spots this year.

More evidence the ACC is the emerging dominant conference in college football. It's not in doubt it will happen. Whoever has the most TV's wins over time. Going to be a pleasure to watch as the SEC and others line up for second place.
 
While I don't subscribe to bowl prognostication while we're not yet bowl eligible, I did note that the ESPN ACC Blog crew now has Wake going to the Sun Bowl. If nothing else it just shows that relatively speaking Wake's season so far has been among the "top tier" of the conference. It would be a great bowl if we manage to win at least 8 games I figure.
 
I guess State getting their doors blown off helped. We'll see what happens when we go to Loui.

Wouldn't hurt our cause if they finished 6-6. And we pulled off 8-4
 
Obviously still early to talk about this, but if we win 7-8 games in Clawson's third year, just two years removed from probably the worst P5 offense in the past 20 years then he deserves serious consideration for ACC COY.

I'm assuming that will go to Petrino, but Clawson should definitely get some votes. What he has done is nothing short of phenomenal given our "football history" as BKF likes to say.
 
Fuente will get some votes too.
 
If we have a bad loss, do we go to the Argyle Bowl rather than the Pinstripe Bowl?
 
If we have a bad loss, do we go to the Argyle Bowl rather than the Pinstripe Bowl?

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Fuente will get some votes too.

Yes, also a little early for COY talk with most ACC teams not even halfway through their conference schedule. A little more than two weeks ago, Mark Richt may have been the favorite for ACC COY. Nationally, Tom Herman walked on water two weeks ago. Now, his team is coming off two unthinkable losses to Navy and SMU. Houston went from BCS Playoff contender to Beef O Brady bowl candidate. Perceptions change quickly.
 
We need to win on Saturday and that's all that really matters. If we win this Saturday, we can realistically start talking about pulling off 8 wins. We are better than Army but we better not look past them.
 
We need to win on Saturday and that's all that really matters. If we win this Saturday, we can realistically start talking about pulling off 8 wins. We are better than Army but we better not look past them.

Exactly Creamy. Get #6 so we can play with pressure off and not have to worry so much about "bowl junk" cluttering our minds when the Hoo-ville boys coming rolling in. They are where I gre up so I want to put a whipping on them and hopefully after they absorb a bad one at the hands of Petrino's Cards, they will feel defeated for the rest of the season. Bronco's boys will be turned into geldings.
 
More evidence the ACC is the emerging dominant conference in college football. It's not in doubt it will happen. Whoever has the most TV's wins over time. Going to be a pleasure to watch as the SEC and others line up for second place.

ACC lowest paid on average by $1.5 mill per coach in Power 5 to top conference. If so good, need to step it up! Not even close to 'emerging' from this whack-a-mole' contest.
[The SEC had the highest median coach salary at $4,172,500, followed by the Big 12 ($3,540,788), the Pac-12 ($3,102,960), the Big Ten ($2,753,100) and the ACC ($2,562,485)./B]
 
ACC lowest paid on average by $1.5 mill per coach in Power 5 to top conference. If so good, need to step it up! Not even close to 'emerging' from this whack-a-mole' contest.
[The SEC had the highest median coach salary at $4,172,500, followed by the Big 12 ($3,540,788), the Pac-12 ($3,102,960), the Big Ten ($2,753,100) and the ACC ($2,562,485)./B]


Just because Arkansas is willing to overpay Bret Bielema and South Carolina is willing to WAY overpay Will Muschamp (just to name two prominent examples) doesn't have anything to do with whether or not the SEC is a better conference than the ACC.
 
So typical for Reff to be awed by many SEC schools overpaying for bad coaching.

The ACC has a strong roster of coaches which outside of Darth Saban has the clear edge over the SEC. Only in the SEC could that clown, Ed Ogeron, be considered an upgrade for LSU when replacing the longest serving coach in the conference. Rather than praise the SEC for over-paying, the ACC deserves credit for getting more bang for the buck.
 
So typical for Reff to be awed by many SEC schools overpaying for bad coaching.

The ACC has a strong roster of coaches which outside of Darth Saban has the clear edge over the SEC. Only in the SEC could that clown, Ed Ogeron, be considered an upgrade for LSU when replacing the longest serving coach in the conference. Rather than praise the SEC for over-paying, the ACC deserves credit for getting more bang for the buck.

I never said a word about the SEC, only cut & pasted from the ESPN site it came from yesterday. Typical of you to over-react to what I was listing, huh? But that said, if you want to play with the big boys in college football that get 78,000 per game at all 14 schools, than you have to pay to play....just sayin since you brought it up. But according to the article yesterday we are the lowest of the Power 5 leagues in average salary. Makes it hard to attract top coaches [and top of the line assistants more importantly that will stay]. The SEC & Big XII & PAC will do that! The ACC & Big Ten need to catch up. Maybe the new TV contracts will help down the road? But even those are smaller than others per team.

Now if Ed Ogeron, who happens to be an upgrade on the offensive skills over Madhatter Miles who had gone stale with his offense and was showing it the past few years, happens to do some special things the next few weeks, who knows what they might do for him. Time will tell, just as all coaches who get into jobs. Nobody would have ever figured Dabo would be where he is today when he first got that interim job either in the mid-season! The ACC has a definite upgrade in their coaches in the past year with Fuentes, Mendenhall & Richt [even Babers from what I see] but it was a very weak to mediocre slate before that with Beamer getting too old & London just not being able to coach! But the jury is still out at BC, GT, NC State [may even have to see if non-drinking Mormons can coach at a drinking school like UVa?]
 
ACC lowest paid on average by $1.5 mill per coach in Power 5 to top conference. If so good, need to step it up! Not even close to 'emerging' from this whack-a-mole' contest.
[The SEC had the highest median coach salary at $4,172,500, followed by the Big 12 ($3,540,788), the Pac-12 ($3,102,960), the Big Ten ($2,753,100) and the ACC ($2,562,485)./B]


So not only does the ACC win over time with the most TV,s, they win because they aren't as stupid as the rest.
 
I never said a word about the SEC, only cut & pasted from the ESPN site it came from yesterday. Typical of you to over-react to what I was listing, huh? But that said, if you want to play with the big boys in college football that get 78,000 per game at all 14 schools, than you have to pay to play....just sayin since you brought it up. But according to the article yesterday we are the lowest of the Power 5 leagues in average salary. Makes it hard to attract top coaches [and top of the line assistants more importantly that will stay]. The SEC & Big XII & PAC will do that! The ACC & Big Ten need to catch up. Maybe the new TV contracts will help down the road? But even those are smaller than others per team.

Now if Ed Ogeron, who happens to be an upgrade on the offensive skills over Madhatter Miles who had gone stale with his offense and was showing it the past few years, happens to do some special things the next few weeks, who knows what they might do for him. Time will tell, just as all coaches who get into jobs. Nobody would have ever figured Dabo would be where he is today when he first got that interim job either in the mid-season! The ACC has a definite upgrade in their coaches in the past year with Fuentes, Mendenhall & Richt [even Babers from what I see] but it was a very weak to mediocre slate before that with Beamer getting too old & London just not being able to coach! But the jury is still out at BC, GT, NC State [may even have to see if non-drinking Mormons can coach at a drinking school like UVa?]

OK, will spell it out for you:

a) You pasted a listing of median (not average, BTW, there is a difference) head coaches salaries by conference.
b) The highest median HC salary on your list was the SEC coaches;
c) Fifth on the list is the ACC coaches;
d) Your obtuse comment was "ACC lowest paid on average by $1.5 mill per coach in Power 5 to top conference. If so good, need to step it up!"

Despite the denial, your post openly compared the ACC to the SEC, and offered the misplaced comment that by overpaying for the likes of Les Miles, Will Muschamp, Mark Stoops, Brett Bielema, Butch Jones, cheater Hugh Freeze, the SEC was somehow stepping it up, and the ACC was not keeping up.

Wrong. One reason why the SEC has declined is that they have made several bad hires and compounded the bad hire with big money payouts. The ACC has stepped it up with good hires (Petrino, Fuente, Clawson, Doeren, Narduzzi, Fedora, possibly Babers) at more rational prices. That's a positive for the ACC not a negative.

By way of example, Mark Stoops would be the 4th highest paid coach in the ACC (btw, so would be the exceedingly mediocre Kliff Kingsbury). Do you consider that as Kentucky stepping up? More accurately, Kentucky is throwing away its money.
 
More evidence the ACC is the emerging dominant conference in college football. It's not in doubt it will happen. Whoever has the most TV's wins over time. Going to be a pleasure to watch as the SEC and others line up for second place.

Late on this one, but holy #hottake batman.
 
ACC also has a large number of private schools who do not report this information so we don't know. Also those articles are always misleading because salary does not include some extremely easy to obtain bonuses and other little things like 1 million bucks to the the radio show every week.
 
ACC also has a large number of private schools who do not report this information so we don't know. Also those articles are always misleading because salary does not include some extremely easy to obtain bonuses and other little things like 1 million bucks to the the radio show every week.

It is what it is. Nothing misleading about what ESPN just reported. We don't have the total butts in chairs, don't have the huge TV contracts for football, therefore we don't pay our football coaches what the rest of the country pays and to go along with it, the coordinators that run things.
 
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