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BudatWake

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UsaToday'so latest has us in the Independence Bowl. We need to win our way out of Shreveport.
 


Fond memories though.

Here's the whole game.

A young Sean McDonough in the booth.
 
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Not optimistic we'll get better than St. Pete/Shreve/Military/Detroit/etc. this year.

We'll probably either need to beat Clemson or have somebody likely ahead of us in the pecking order fall apart. And maybe have a few other things break our way too.

It's all good though. One step at a time
 
My guess is that WF will end up in the Military Bowl at Annapolis.
 
Phdeac bowl in st pete

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St. Pete would prolly be the least desirable. 11 AM day after Christmas. Likely would play USF in their own backyard, and they'd prolly kick our ass.

At least a day off for most (same day as Detroit and Shreve bowls), so most should be able to watch
 
Biggest thing for me is to get a bowl where we win. No one remembers who you played in any given lower tier bowl game. They only remember your overall bowl record.
 
wsc8521s said:
St. Pete would prolly be the least desirable. 11 AM day after Christmas. Likely would play USF in their own backyard, and they'd prolly kick our ass.

At least a day off for most (same day as Detroit and Shreve bowls), so most should be able to watch
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Our defense vs. USF's offense would be a very interesting matchup. USF's QB Quinton Flowers is what I think Hinton could be with more experience. Hard to imagine USF doesn't get their customary 35 points, but we just held FSU to 17 at home, so who knows. USF has a good shot to win the AAC and compete for an At-Large bowl bid though.

Wake-Cal in Shreveport would be fine for TV. I'm looking for an excuse for a guys trip, so hosting friends in St. Pete or going to Annapolis or Nashville fit the bill.
 
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Which boils down to our being taken ahead of NC State.

Possible, but I don't see it
 
What record are they projecting us with? Shouldn't we have a reasonable expectation of getting to 8 wins at this point?
 
Record doesn't matter except with respect to Notre Dame and they're not going to make a bowl at all.
 
Ph is right. That said MAYBE if we get to 8-4 and State is 6-6 (I'd put them at 7-5, but they do have a tough finish so it's possible) we'd get the nod.

State's win over ND and near win over Clemp will resonate, howevah
 
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What record are they projecting us with? Shouldn't we have a reasonable expectation of getting to 8 wins at this point?
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Think the most reasonable expectation is 7-5 (FWIW, to start the year, the WF team win total in Las Vegas hovered between 5 and 5.5). WF will be less than a TD favorite against Army, UVA and BC (Army is much better than expected; UVA sucked to start the year, but has improved during the season; BC is up and down). A reasonable expectation would be to win 2 of those 3. WF will be a huge dog at L'ville and home to Clemson. Unlikely WF will win either. Then again, that's why they play the games. Maybe WF will stumble against two of the three its expected to beat, but then shock the world and knock Clemson out of the NC discussion.
 
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Never ceases to amaze me hearing Wake fans scoffing at a bowl. Any bowl.
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Exactly Loh. While it is nice to Dream On......we have a small enrollment & fan base and haven't been to one since 2011. Let's get 8 wins and see where that puts us.

fter announcing its top tier bowl agreements last month, the ACC has now finalized its bowl lineup. Here is what the line-up will look like for the 2014 through 2019 seasons.

#1. Orange Bowl vs SEC, Big 10, or Notre Dame

If the ACC champion is not selected for the four-team College Football Playoff, that team will play in the Orange Bowl (Miami, FL) against Notre Dame or a team from the SEC or Big 10. In years when the ACC champion or another ACC team qualifies for the four-team national semifinals, then the next highest-ranked ACC team would play in the Orange Bowl. In years when the Orange Bowl is hosting one of the College Football Playoff semifinal games (e.g. 2016), the ACC champion will play in a host bowl -- either the Fiesta Bowl or the Chick-fil-A Bowl.

The selection of the ACC's opponent will be based on securing the highest-ranked team in the final standings available from either the Big Ten, the SEC or Notre Dame. The Big Ten and SEC are each guaranteed at least three appearances over the 12-year life of the deal. Notre Dame has no minimum guarantee and may only appear in the game a maximum of two times.

#2. Russell Athletic Bowl vs. Big 12

The Russell Athletic Bowl (Orlando, FL) will have the first selection of ACC teams after the Orange Bowl and College Football Playoff. The ACC will face the #3 team out of the Big 12.



#3. Capital One Bowl vs. SEC (conditional)


An ACC team will only play in the Capital One Bowl (Orlando, FL) when the Orange Bowl hosts a Big Ten team, presumably against an SEC opponent.



#3 through #6. Gator/Music City, Belk, Sun, and Pinstripe Bowls


The Gator Bowl (Jacksonville, FL), Music City Bowl (Nashville, TN), Belk Bowl (Charlotte, NC), Sun Bowl (El Paso, TX), and Pinstripe Bowl (New York City, NY) will be pooled together and selections will be made after the College Football Playoff, Orange Bowl, Capital One Bowl (when applicable) and Russell Athletic Bowl. Selections are expected to be based on geography, opponents, avoiding regular season rematches, etc.

The ACC will have full tie-ins with the Belk Bowl (vs SEC), Sun Bowl (vs PAC 12), and Pinstripe Bowl (vs Big 10). The ACC and Big Ten will split the Gator (vs SEC) and Music City (vs SEC) bowls with each conference receiving three appearances apiece during the 6-year cycle.





#7 through #9. Military, Advocare V100, and Detroit Lions Bowls

The Military Bowl (Annapolis, MD), AdvoCare V100 Bowl (Shreveport, LA), and Detroit Lions Bowls (Detroit, MI) will make selections after the #3 through #6 bowl pool. The ACC will face the American Athletic Conference in the Military Bowl and the Big 10 in the Detroit Lions Bowl. The opponent for the AdvoCare V100 Bowl has not yet been named. Selections are expected to be based on geography, opponents, avoiding regular season rematches, etc; however, the ACC has not announced if the bowls will be pooled or selection made based on records.



#10 and #11. Beef ‘O’Brady’s and Birmingham Bowls (conditional)

The ACC will have conditional tie-ins with the Beef ‘O’Brady’s Bowl (St. Petersburg, FL) and the Birmingham Bowl (Birmingham, AL). The ACC is guaranteed a spot in the Beef 'O' Brady's in 2014 and 2016 against the American Athletic Conference. The conference will be the bowl’s first conditional choice in 2015, 2017, 2018, and 2019 if either of its primary partners are not able to provide a team.

The Birmingham Bowl will be a second conditional bowl for the ACC, if it has an available team beyond the Beef ‘O’Brady’s Bowl choice. If available, the ACC will be the first conditional choice for Birmingham Bowl should either of that bowl’s primary partners not have an eligible team. Please note that the Conference will send a team first to the Beef ‘O’Brady’s Bowl, if that game has an opening, followed by sending a team to the Birmingham Bowl game.



Things to Note

- The ACC will have a minimum of nine guaranteed bowl berths in each of the six years after the 2014-19 seasons, with that number expanding to 10 in the 2014 and 2016 seasons due to the Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl deal. The ACC will also have a minimum of 10 guaranteed bowl berths anytime a Big 10 team plays in the Orange Bowl.

- Notre Dame will have access to every ACC bowl game (minus the Orange Bowl). The Irish may displace any ACC team so long as their overall record is within one of the bowl-eligible ACC school (e.g. an 8-4 Notre Dame team could not be selected over a 10-2 ACC team, but the Irish could be selected over a 9-3 ACC team)
 
Why exactly can ND surpass a 9-3 acc team with an 8-4 record? It seems as if they would have to have one win more than the team they would displace.


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