OldGoldBeard
A Sorry WR Like Crabtree
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Losses/returners had a 3.0 ppg minimum cut-off.
Newcomers include transfers (subject to the 3.0 ppg cut-off) and top-100 ESPN recruits.
Transfers are always the hardest to track, so corrections are welcomed, particularly on that front.
I’ve marked potential early-entries with an asterisk, and have categorized them as returners or losses based on the Draft Express mock—first-rounders leaving, second-rounders staying.
Teams That Should Be Better
Miami 21-12 (10-8), First Round
Returners: Ja’Quan Newton (13.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 3.4 apg); Bruce Brown (11.8 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 3.2 apg); Anthony Lawrence, Jr. (6.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg); Dejan Vasiljevic (6.0 ppg); Dewan Huell (5.8 ppg, 3.1 rpg); Evuka Izundu (4.2 ppg, 3.0 rpg)
Losses: Davon Reed (14.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg); Kamari Murphy (7.1 ppg, 7.3 rpg)
Newcomers: Lonnie Walker (SG, #18); Chris Lykes (PG, #46); Deng Gak (PF, #92)
Miami loses two good players, but has a great recruiting class and a lot of talent coming back. Larranaga has done a tremendous job there.
Georgia Tech 20-15 (8-10), NIT
Returners: Josh Okogie (16.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg); Ben Lammers (14.4 ppg, 9.3 rpg); Tadric Jackson (11.9 ppg); Justin Moore (4.4 ppg)
Losses: Quinton Stephens (10.5 ppg, 7.7 rpg); Josh Heath (5.6 ppg, 4.4 apg)
Newcomers:
Pastner looks to build on a successful first season with his top three scorers all returning.
Boston College 9-23 (2-16)
Returners: Jerome Robinson (18.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 3.4 apg); Ky Bowman (14.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg); Jordan Chatman (8.6 ppg); Nik Popovic (6.1 ppg, 3.5 rpg); Ty Graves (4.8 ppg)
Losses: A.J. Turner (8.4 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 3.0 apg)(transfer); Connar Tava (5.9 ppg, 5.4 rpg); Mo Jeffers (5.5 ppg, 5.6 rpg)
Newcomers:
Is there reason for hope in Boston College? Barring a slew of early entries, their top five scorers all return for next year. Not anymore, with Turner's transfer.
Teams That Should Be About the Same
Louisville 25-9 (12-6), Second Round
Returners: Quentin Snider (12.4 ppg, 4.1 apg); Deng Adel (12.1 ppg, 4.5 rpg); Ray Spalding (5.9 ppg, 5.5 rpg); Anas Mahmoud (5.7 ppg, 4.0 rpg); V.J. King (5.5 ppg)
Losses: Donovan Mitchell* (15.6 ppg, 4.9 rpg); Jaylen Johnson (8.0 ppg, 5.8 rpg)*; Mangok Mathiang (7.8 ppg, 6.0 rpg); Tony Hicks (3.7 ppg)
Newcomers: Brian Bowen, (SF, #13); Malik Williams (PF, #29); Darius Perry (PG, #51); Jordan Nwora (PF, #87)
Mitchell is likely gone, but all three early declarants have left their options open, and Louisville would look like a national title contender if they come back. We’ll see.
Notre Dame 26-10 (12-6), Second Round
Returners: Bonzie Colson* (17.8 ppg, 10.1 rpg); Matt Farrell (14.1 ppg, 5.4 apg); Rex Pflueger (4.7 ppg); Temple Gibbs (4.7 ppg); Matt Ryan (3.6 ppg); Martinas Geben (3.1 ppg, 3.4 rpg)
Losses: V.J. Beachem (14.5 ppg, 4.1 rpg); Steve Vasturia (13.1 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 3.3 apg)
Newcomers: D.J. Harvey, Jr. (SF, #47)
Two big losses from an already not-so-deep team, but they’ve suffered more serious losses each of the last two seasons and just keep rolling along, so I’m not counting them out.
Virginia Tech 22-11 (10-8), First Round
Returners: Chris Clarke (11.4 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 3.3 apg); Ahmed Hill (11.4 ppg, 3.2 rpg); Justin Robinson (10.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.8 apg); Justin Bibbs (9.2 ppg); Ty Outlaw (6.3 ppg); Khadim Sy (4.0 ppg)
Losses: Zach LeDay (16.5 ppg, 7.3 rpg); Seth Allen (13.3 ppg, 3.3 apg)
Newcomers: Nickeil Alexander-Walker (SG, #25); Wabissa Bede (PG, #80)
Good news: You return all five starters. Bad news: Neither of your top two scorers started. I feel like Clarke’s recovery from injury will be a big factor here.
Wake Forest 19-14 (9-9), First Four
Returners: Bryant Crawford (16.2 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 5.5 apg); Keyshawn Woods (12.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 3.5 apg); Dinos Mitoglou (8.9 ppg, 6.1 rpg); Mitchell Wilbekin (7.0 ppg); Brandon Childress (6.6 ppg)
Losses: John Collins* (19.2 ppg, 9.8 rpg); Austin Arians (8.5 ppg)
Newcomers: Chaundee Brown (SG, #31)
NC State 15-17 (4-14)
Returners: Abdul-Malik Abu (11.8 ppg, 7.0 rpg); Torin Dorn (9.5 ppg, 4.6 rpg); Omer Yurtseven (5.9 ppg, 4.4 rpg); Markell Johnson (4.0 ppg)
Losses: Dennis Smith, Jr.* (18.1 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 6.2 apg); Terry Henderson (13.8 ppg, 3.1 rpg)(6th year denied); Maverick Rowan (12.0 ppg, 3.7 rpg)*; Ted Kapita (4.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg)*
Newcomers: Al Freeman (9.7 ppg)(Baylor); Lavar Batts (PG, #96)
The talent will clearly be worse next year, even if State manages to land some recruits or a grad transfer, but the coaching change alone should be enough for them to tread water, or even improve.
Teams That Should Be Worse
UNC 29-7 (14-4), 33-7 (National Champs)
Returners: Joel Berry, II (14.4 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 3.7 apg); Kenny Williams (6.2 ppg, 3.3 rpg); Theo Pinson (5.9 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 3.7 apg); Luke Maye (5.1 ppg, 3.8 rpg)
Losses: Justin Jackson* (18.1 ppg, 4.7 rpg); Kennedy Meeks (12.7 ppg, 9.1 rpg); Isaiah Hicks (12.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg); Tony Bradley* (7.5 ppg, 5.3 rpg); Nate Britt (4.7 ppg)
Newcomers: Cameron Johnson (11.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg)(Pitt transfer); Jalek Felton (SG, #24)
Big departures in Chapel Hill, as they lose most of their giant frontline.
Florida State 26-9 (12-6), Second Round
Returners: Terance Mann (8.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg); P.J. Savoy (5.5 ppg); Trent Forrest (4.9 ppg); C.J. Walker (4.9 ppg); Brian Angola-Rodas (4.6 ppg); Christ Koumadje (4.4 ppg)
Losses: Dwayne Bacon* (17.2 ppg, 4.2 rpg); Jonathan Isaac* (12.0 ppg, 7.8 rpg); Xavier Rathan-Mayes* (10.6 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 4.8 apg); Michael Ojo (4.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg); Jarquez Smith (4.4 ppg)
Newcomers: M.J. Walker (SG, #25); Ikey Obiagu (C, #56)
I’m breaking my Draft Express rule to put Bacon in the “Losses” column due to the tone of his announcement. Fortunately, 10th-year senior Rathan Mayes will still be around. ETA: Or maybe not. Looks like a down year for the Noles.
Duke 28-9 (11-7), Second Round
Returners: Grayson Allen (14.5 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 3.5 apg)
Losses: Luke Kennard* (19.5 ppg, 5.1 rpg); Jayson Tatum* (16.8 ppg, 7.3 rpg); Frank Jackson* (10.9 ppg); Amile Jefferson (10.9 ppg, 8.4 rpg); Matt Jones (7.0 ppg); Harry Giles (3.9 ppg, 3.8 rpg)
Newcomers: Wendell Carter (PF, #4); Trevon Duval (PG, #5); Gary Trent, Jr. (SG, #7); Jordan Tucker (SF, #40); Alex O’Connell (SG, #84)
It’s an exodus in Durham! It's a hell of a recruiting class coming in, but precious little coming back.
Virginia 23-11 (11-7), Second Round
Returners: Devon Hall (8.4 ppg, 4.4 rpg); Kyle Guy (7.5 ppg); Isaiah Wilkins (6.8 ppg, 6.0 rpg); Ty Jerome (4.3 ppg); Mamadi Diakite (3.8 ppg); Jack Salt (3.7 ppg, 4.1 rpg)
Losses: London Perrantes (12.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 3.8 apg); Marial Shayok (8.9 ppg)(transfer); Darius Thompson (6.2 ppg)(transfer); Jarred Reuter (3.8 ppg)(transfer)
Newcomers: Nigel Johnson (11.3 ppg)(Rutgers)
The unexpected (to me) transfer of Shayok, who would have been UVA’s leading returning scorer, is a major blow. Where will the scoring come from?
Syracuse 19-15 (10-8), NIT
Returners: Tyus Battle (11.3 ppg); Taurean Thompson (9.2 ppg, 3.8 rpg); Frank Howard (4.5 ppg);
Losses: Andrew White, III (18.5 ppg, 4.6 rpg); Tyler Lydon* (13.2 ppg, 8.6 rpg); John Gillon (10.5 ppg, 5.4 apg); DaJuan Coleman (5.6 ppg, 4.8 rpg); Tyler Roberson (5.3 ppg, 4.9 rpg)
Newcomers:
There’s some confusion on whether or not Lydon has signed with an agent, but he appears to be gone. Boeheim is sticking around for this?
Clemson 17-16 (6-12), NIT
Returners: Shelton Mitchell (10.8 ppg, 3.6 apg); Marcquise Reed (10.0 ppg); Elijah Thomas (7.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg); Donte Grantham (7.3 ppg, 4.3 rpg); Gave DeVoe (7.1 ppg)
Losses: Jaron Blossomgame (17.7 ppg, 6.3 rpg); Avry Holmes (10.3 ppg); Sidy Djitte (6.5 ppg, 7.7 rpg)
Newcomers: Mark Donnal (3.9 ppg)(UM transfer)
Always tough to categorize those teams with a record significantly worse than their level of performance. I’m putting Clemson in the “Worse” category even though I’d expect a similar record next year.
Pittsburgh 16-17 (4-14)
Returners: Ryan Luther (5.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg)
Losses: Michael Young (19.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg); Jamel Artis (18.2 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 3.3 apg); Cameron Johnson (11.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg)(grad transfer); Sheldon Jeter (8.1 ppg, 7.3 rpg); Chris Jones (7.2 ppg, 3.0 rpg)
Newcomers:
Pitt is also being hit by a bunch of transfers, now including 3rd-leading scorer Cameron Johnson. Last one out turn off the lights.
Newcomers include transfers (subject to the 3.0 ppg cut-off) and top-100 ESPN recruits.
Transfers are always the hardest to track, so corrections are welcomed, particularly on that front.
I’ve marked potential early-entries with an asterisk, and have categorized them as returners or losses based on the Draft Express mock—first-rounders leaving, second-rounders staying.
Teams That Should Be Better
Miami 21-12 (10-8), First Round
Returners: Ja’Quan Newton (13.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 3.4 apg); Bruce Brown (11.8 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 3.2 apg); Anthony Lawrence, Jr. (6.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg); Dejan Vasiljevic (6.0 ppg); Dewan Huell (5.8 ppg, 3.1 rpg); Evuka Izundu (4.2 ppg, 3.0 rpg)
Losses: Davon Reed (14.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg); Kamari Murphy (7.1 ppg, 7.3 rpg)
Newcomers: Lonnie Walker (SG, #18); Chris Lykes (PG, #46); Deng Gak (PF, #92)
Miami loses two good players, but has a great recruiting class and a lot of talent coming back. Larranaga has done a tremendous job there.
Georgia Tech 20-15 (8-10), NIT
Returners: Josh Okogie (16.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg); Ben Lammers (14.4 ppg, 9.3 rpg); Tadric Jackson (11.9 ppg); Justin Moore (4.4 ppg)
Losses: Quinton Stephens (10.5 ppg, 7.7 rpg); Josh Heath (5.6 ppg, 4.4 apg)
Newcomers:
Pastner looks to build on a successful first season with his top three scorers all returning.
Boston College 9-23 (2-16)
Returners: Jerome Robinson (18.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 3.4 apg); Ky Bowman (14.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg); Jordan Chatman (8.6 ppg); Nik Popovic (6.1 ppg, 3.5 rpg); Ty Graves (4.8 ppg)
Losses: A.J. Turner (8.4 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 3.0 apg)(transfer); Connar Tava (5.9 ppg, 5.4 rpg); Mo Jeffers (5.5 ppg, 5.6 rpg)
Newcomers:
Is there reason for hope in Boston College? Barring a slew of early entries, their top five scorers all return for next year. Not anymore, with Turner's transfer.
Teams That Should Be About the Same
Louisville 25-9 (12-6), Second Round
Returners: Quentin Snider (12.4 ppg, 4.1 apg); Deng Adel (12.1 ppg, 4.5 rpg); Ray Spalding (5.9 ppg, 5.5 rpg); Anas Mahmoud (5.7 ppg, 4.0 rpg); V.J. King (5.5 ppg)
Losses: Donovan Mitchell* (15.6 ppg, 4.9 rpg); Jaylen Johnson (8.0 ppg, 5.8 rpg)*; Mangok Mathiang (7.8 ppg, 6.0 rpg); Tony Hicks (3.7 ppg)
Newcomers: Brian Bowen, (SF, #13); Malik Williams (PF, #29); Darius Perry (PG, #51); Jordan Nwora (PF, #87)
Mitchell is likely gone, but all three early declarants have left their options open, and Louisville would look like a national title contender if they come back. We’ll see.
Notre Dame 26-10 (12-6), Second Round
Returners: Bonzie Colson* (17.8 ppg, 10.1 rpg); Matt Farrell (14.1 ppg, 5.4 apg); Rex Pflueger (4.7 ppg); Temple Gibbs (4.7 ppg); Matt Ryan (3.6 ppg); Martinas Geben (3.1 ppg, 3.4 rpg)
Losses: V.J. Beachem (14.5 ppg, 4.1 rpg); Steve Vasturia (13.1 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 3.3 apg)
Newcomers: D.J. Harvey, Jr. (SF, #47)
Two big losses from an already not-so-deep team, but they’ve suffered more serious losses each of the last two seasons and just keep rolling along, so I’m not counting them out.
Virginia Tech 22-11 (10-8), First Round
Returners: Chris Clarke (11.4 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 3.3 apg); Ahmed Hill (11.4 ppg, 3.2 rpg); Justin Robinson (10.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.8 apg); Justin Bibbs (9.2 ppg); Ty Outlaw (6.3 ppg); Khadim Sy (4.0 ppg)
Losses: Zach LeDay (16.5 ppg, 7.3 rpg); Seth Allen (13.3 ppg, 3.3 apg)
Newcomers: Nickeil Alexander-Walker (SG, #25); Wabissa Bede (PG, #80)
Good news: You return all five starters. Bad news: Neither of your top two scorers started. I feel like Clarke’s recovery from injury will be a big factor here.
Wake Forest 19-14 (9-9), First Four
Returners: Bryant Crawford (16.2 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 5.5 apg); Keyshawn Woods (12.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 3.5 apg); Dinos Mitoglou (8.9 ppg, 6.1 rpg); Mitchell Wilbekin (7.0 ppg); Brandon Childress (6.6 ppg)
Losses: John Collins* (19.2 ppg, 9.8 rpg); Austin Arians (8.5 ppg)
Newcomers: Chaundee Brown (SG, #31)
NC State 15-17 (4-14)
Returners: Abdul-Malik Abu (11.8 ppg, 7.0 rpg); Torin Dorn (9.5 ppg, 4.6 rpg); Omer Yurtseven (5.9 ppg, 4.4 rpg); Markell Johnson (4.0 ppg)
Losses: Dennis Smith, Jr.* (18.1 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 6.2 apg); Terry Henderson (13.8 ppg, 3.1 rpg)(6th year denied); Maverick Rowan (12.0 ppg, 3.7 rpg)*; Ted Kapita (4.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg)*
Newcomers: Al Freeman (9.7 ppg)(Baylor); Lavar Batts (PG, #96)
The talent will clearly be worse next year, even if State manages to land some recruits or a grad transfer, but the coaching change alone should be enough for them to tread water, or even improve.
Teams That Should Be Worse
UNC 29-7 (14-4), 33-7 (National Champs)
Returners: Joel Berry, II (14.4 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 3.7 apg); Kenny Williams (6.2 ppg, 3.3 rpg); Theo Pinson (5.9 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 3.7 apg); Luke Maye (5.1 ppg, 3.8 rpg)
Losses: Justin Jackson* (18.1 ppg, 4.7 rpg); Kennedy Meeks (12.7 ppg, 9.1 rpg); Isaiah Hicks (12.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg); Tony Bradley* (7.5 ppg, 5.3 rpg); Nate Britt (4.7 ppg)
Newcomers: Cameron Johnson (11.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg)(Pitt transfer); Jalek Felton (SG, #24)
Big departures in Chapel Hill, as they lose most of their giant frontline.
Florida State 26-9 (12-6), Second Round
Returners: Terance Mann (8.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg); P.J. Savoy (5.5 ppg); Trent Forrest (4.9 ppg); C.J. Walker (4.9 ppg); Brian Angola-Rodas (4.6 ppg); Christ Koumadje (4.4 ppg)
Losses: Dwayne Bacon* (17.2 ppg, 4.2 rpg); Jonathan Isaac* (12.0 ppg, 7.8 rpg); Xavier Rathan-Mayes* (10.6 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 4.8 apg); Michael Ojo (4.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg); Jarquez Smith (4.4 ppg)
Newcomers: M.J. Walker (SG, #25); Ikey Obiagu (C, #56)
I’m breaking my Draft Express rule to put Bacon in the “Losses” column due to the tone of his announcement. Fortunately, 10th-year senior Rathan Mayes will still be around. ETA: Or maybe not. Looks like a down year for the Noles.
Duke 28-9 (11-7), Second Round
Returners: Grayson Allen (14.5 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 3.5 apg)
Losses: Luke Kennard* (19.5 ppg, 5.1 rpg); Jayson Tatum* (16.8 ppg, 7.3 rpg); Frank Jackson* (10.9 ppg); Amile Jefferson (10.9 ppg, 8.4 rpg); Matt Jones (7.0 ppg); Harry Giles (3.9 ppg, 3.8 rpg)
Newcomers: Wendell Carter (PF, #4); Trevon Duval (PG, #5); Gary Trent, Jr. (SG, #7); Jordan Tucker (SF, #40); Alex O’Connell (SG, #84)
It’s an exodus in Durham! It's a hell of a recruiting class coming in, but precious little coming back.
Virginia 23-11 (11-7), Second Round
Returners: Devon Hall (8.4 ppg, 4.4 rpg); Kyle Guy (7.5 ppg); Isaiah Wilkins (6.8 ppg, 6.0 rpg); Ty Jerome (4.3 ppg); Mamadi Diakite (3.8 ppg); Jack Salt (3.7 ppg, 4.1 rpg)
Losses: London Perrantes (12.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 3.8 apg); Marial Shayok (8.9 ppg)(transfer); Darius Thompson (6.2 ppg)(transfer); Jarred Reuter (3.8 ppg)(transfer)
Newcomers: Nigel Johnson (11.3 ppg)(Rutgers)
The unexpected (to me) transfer of Shayok, who would have been UVA’s leading returning scorer, is a major blow. Where will the scoring come from?
Syracuse 19-15 (10-8), NIT
Returners: Tyus Battle (11.3 ppg); Taurean Thompson (9.2 ppg, 3.8 rpg); Frank Howard (4.5 ppg);
Losses: Andrew White, III (18.5 ppg, 4.6 rpg); Tyler Lydon* (13.2 ppg, 8.6 rpg); John Gillon (10.5 ppg, 5.4 apg); DaJuan Coleman (5.6 ppg, 4.8 rpg); Tyler Roberson (5.3 ppg, 4.9 rpg)
Newcomers:
There’s some confusion on whether or not Lydon has signed with an agent, but he appears to be gone. Boeheim is sticking around for this?
Clemson 17-16 (6-12), NIT
Returners: Shelton Mitchell (10.8 ppg, 3.6 apg); Marcquise Reed (10.0 ppg); Elijah Thomas (7.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg); Donte Grantham (7.3 ppg, 4.3 rpg); Gave DeVoe (7.1 ppg)
Losses: Jaron Blossomgame (17.7 ppg, 6.3 rpg); Avry Holmes (10.3 ppg); Sidy Djitte (6.5 ppg, 7.7 rpg)
Newcomers: Mark Donnal (3.9 ppg)(UM transfer)
Always tough to categorize those teams with a record significantly worse than their level of performance. I’m putting Clemson in the “Worse” category even though I’d expect a similar record next year.
Pittsburgh 16-17 (4-14)
Returners: Ryan Luther (5.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg)
Losses: Michael Young (19.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg); Jamel Artis (18.2 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 3.3 apg); Cameron Johnson (11.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg)(grad transfer); Sheldon Jeter (8.1 ppg, 7.3 rpg); Chris Jones (7.2 ppg, 3.0 rpg)
Newcomers:
Pitt is also being hit by a bunch of transfers, now including 3rd-leading scorer Cameron Johnson. Last one out turn off the lights.
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