Its not one bad game, maybe one bad game this season. However, DM has shown no growth as a HC in this 3rd year as HC, and is still making the same mistakes he made in his first season. Furthermore, he hasn't shown any ability to make in game adjustments. Also, a team takes on the identity of their coach, and IMO he is very "soft".' An example of this is from the Nova game when we got out-rebounded by a much smaller team, but the Nova players were not only more aggressive and "wanted it more" but were constantly in a better position to rebound the ball.
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Its not one bad game, maybe one bad game this season. However, DM has shown no growth as a HC in this 3rd year as HC, and is still making the same mistakes he made in his first season. Furthermore, he hasn't shown any ability to make in game adjustments. Also, a team takes on the identity of their coach, and IMO he is very "soft".' An example of this is from the Nova game when we got out-rebounded by a much smaller team, but the Nova players were not only more aggressive and "wanted it more" but were constantly in a better position to rebound the ball.
Nova is the REIGNING NATIONAL CHAMPIONS. They returned 6 of their Top 8 players from that team.
If he's making the same mistakes as the past two years, how come coming into tonight how come we are in the Top 25 nationally in four major categories without a single Top 50 player?
If he's making the same mistakes as the past two years, how come coming into tonight how come we are in the Top 25 nationally in four major categories without a single Top 50 player?
Did we have taller players than Nova, yes or no? We had multiple players that were taller than Nova's. Rebounding is about (1) size (2) aggressive (3) position. We had the size advantage which can't be taught , but Nova was constantly in a better position than us and were much more aggressive in taking the back board which both can be taught.
As for being in the Top 25 in certain stats, the ONLY TOP 25 that matters are The Polls, which we are far from. Also, there is a small sample size of what 5 or 6 games, and besides Nova who have we played that is a Post Season Team? Come back to me when we have played 10-12 games in the ACC against quality teams with those same stats and tell me what we are ranked then.
Where to start? Most glaring example of ineptitude and selfishness tonight was Crawford, 9 turnovers, seriously? If he played a lick of defense or shot the ball welll you could make an argument for him staying out there, but he did not. Why McClinton plays is a greater mystery than the great pyramid and the amount of minutes awarded to Mitch is close behind. Moore looks like his mind is running at 5mph while trying to run catch a bus doing 10, keep him on the bench and try Sam for a while. Don't know what has happened to Dinos shot but it appears to have deserted him so far and we need it. Brandon shot awful and took bad shots tonight but did only have the 1 turnover, plus he is still a freshman so I will cut him a little slack.
Mannings coaching is, let's just say subpar to be kind, especially in tight games. I haven't given up on this team because there is talent, but they have got to be coached better and play as a team both offensively and defensively to avoid another stellar ACC season like last year. Please, please please Danny, quit the hedging with bigs who are not quick enough to recover and get back into position to, you know, actually guard the rim. I would like to see him go to a box and one or a triangle and two when a player like McInfish is hitting shots and basically their entire offense. Don't mistake that I want Manning replaced because I don't, as least as long as Ron Wellman is in charge of the hiring process because another bad hire and we are done for another decade at least
Mannings coaching is, let's just say subpar to be kind, especially in tight games. I haven't given up on this team because there is talent, but they have got to be coached better and play as a team both offensively and defensively to avoid another stellar ACC season like last year. Please, please please Danny, quit the hedging with bigs who are not quick enough to recover and get back into position to, you know, actually guard the rim. I would like to see him go to a box and one or a triangle and two when a player like McInfish is hitting shots and basically their entire offense. Don't mistake that I want Manning replaced because I don't, as least as long as Ron Wellman is in charge of the hiring process because another bad hire and we are done for another decade at least
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Northwestern is not very good.
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Wake played poorly without a doubt, but this post is not accurate. NW will beat a lot of teams this year. They are well coached and have a couple of really solid players. They beat Texas and only lost by 2 at Butler. If I was a betting man, I would bet they are going to post season play for sure.
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I like your careful word crafting. I also believe they will make the post season but not the NCAA. The Big 10 is down this year, but NW always finds a way to lose.
I agree with those saying that it would be a big mistake to hire Chill as a head coach, but I do think he shows more promise than who we have. I would not be opposed to letting him coach out the rest of a season as an interim coach and see what he would do. Manning just seems completely unprepared for this level of coaching and he does not seem to be learning on the job. Being wrong but learning can be worked with. Doing things poorly and being stubborn about it is BZ-like.
Defense has been poor for his entire tenure. Playing time allocation has been confounding for all 3 years. Decision making and adjustments have seemed continuously poor as well.
The talent level is better and that is a credit to Manning, but that seems just to bring on hope that gets thrashed once good opponents are played. I think I may prefer to see limited players executing well to seeing talented players underperforming.
Defense has been poor for his entire tenure. Playing time allocation has been confounding for all 3 years. Decision making and adjustments have seemed continuously poor as well.
The talent level is better and that is a credit to Manning, but that seems just to bring on hope that gets thrashed once good opponents are played. I think I may prefer to see limited players executing well to seeing talented players underperforming.
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When the hell have we seen that in the last 20 years?
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Not buying it. Texas sucks. NIT - I agree with you - NW will make the post season for sure.
Question is whether we have progressed to NIT status. By "not good" I mean we lose by 25 to a good team on the road last night.
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You do realize that Northwestern also played a bad, throwaway game, right? And that they still beat us?
I see poster after poster saying that we shouldn't be worried and/or blame Manning because everyone was off, yet Northwestern managed to get it done while having a similar night. That, to me, is exactly where a coach stands out.
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Well in theory if we both played "terrible" games to the same extent then they would have won by 5 points or so according to Vegas and KP. Obviously it's difficult to determine similar levels of sucktitude.
My primary concern is the defense. We are consistently beat on simple high ball screens with Crawford on the PG as the primary defender because we don't have the lateral quickness to help out. Our rotations are usually late inside by a step or two, and that leads to either an open layup, or an easy kick to the corner for an open three. I just have no idea what Crawford is thinking on defense. He floats around all the time and is hardly ever around his man. The team is constantly rotating to try to help him out and that gets folks out of position.
I would love to have Coach Manning (or anybody on the staff) just sit down with him, watch that game, and stop it every time he commits a turnover, or "floats" on defense, or gets blown by on a screen by Bryant McIntosh. I legitimately don't understand how it keeps happening.
On the offensive side we either turned the ball over through Bryant, shot a long, contested two, or fed Collins (usually to good results). For some reason when he came back in after the cramp we stopped going to him.
I'm frustrated about last night primarily because NU had a bad night overall and we couldn't capitalize on it. It's unfortunate that we had a really bad night at the same time they did. It was our first close game of the season and we failed the test from the four minute mark in. Hopefully we learn from it. How we bounce back on Saturday at Richmond will say a lot.
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Well, we won the first half, there's that! 
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People's criticisms of Manning's coaching and rotations seems to correlate strongly with our wins and losses and I don't think his rotations really change that much.
The game was lost on turnovers. You simply cannot give the ball away 20 times, particularly on the road, and expect to win against any decent team. And our PG had 9 of those turnovers. Simply unacceptable.
Both teams shot poorly but that was a bit of a product of the defense as well. We didn't have nearly as many open 3's as we have in past games.
Crawford can make some brilliant passes but he doesn't always have the best IQ. Chill has natural bball IQ. He didn't have his best game but still only two TO's compared to Crawford's 9.
Collins is a complete beast. We outrebounded them. We cut down on the TO's and convert those into shot attempts and we win that game.
The game was lost on turnovers. You simply cannot give the ball away 20 times, particularly on the road, and expect to win against any decent team. And our PG had 9 of those turnovers. Simply unacceptable.
Both teams shot poorly but that was a bit of a product of the defense as well. We didn't have nearly as many open 3's as we have in past games.
Crawford can make some brilliant passes but he doesn't always have the best IQ. Chill has natural bball IQ. He didn't have his best game but still only two TO's compared to Crawford's 9.
Collins is a complete beast. We outrebounded them. We cut down on the TO's and convert those into shot attempts and we win that game.
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Watched the entire game and kept thinking to myself, "The ceiling for both of these teams is the NIT." Maybe NW just had an off night and turns into a decent team in the B1G, or maybe they are who they are and end up with a 2-3 seed in the NIT.
As for Wake, if this is what ACC road games are going to be like, we're in for another long season. NW just established a blueprint for consistently turning us over. The good news is, there's not much to get our hopes up before ACC play, unlike last year.