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Wake Golf 2024 - Women finish 9th and Men 16th

Rafi said:
Does that mean shooting one of the best team scores of the day and winning the playoff? Or is it more like mercy ruling the #2 baseball team in the country to complete the 3-game sweep?
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lol death taxes and rafi
 
wakephan09 said:
just as it's important to push back against the LOWF among us, I feel like it's also good to point out that the bad luck, choker narrative isn't, like, a given for wake sports teams.

Having a mediocre final day but winning a playoff to advance seems almost clutch
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We struggled coming home, but overall, we didn't have a mediocre day. We had the third best final round.

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wakephan09 said:
just as it's important to push back against the LOWF among us, I feel like it's also good to point out that the bad luck, choker narrative isn't, like, a given for wake sports teams.

Having a mediocre final day but winning a playoff to advance seems almost clutch
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yes, the woe is us narrative is annoying and, frankly, dumb

but the inevitability of a rafi defense of [wake, the acc, the athletic department] is also hilarious
 
I love message board semantics arguments. It's very possible for a team to play great for the first half, choke down the stretch, and come up clutch in OT to win, in all sports. That's exactly what happened here. We got lucky that BYU (and Arkansas among others) pretty much gagged all day.
 
tigerswood said:
I love message board semantics arguments. It's very possible for a team to play great for the first half, choke down the stretch, and come up clutch in OT to win, in all sports. That's exactly what happened here. We got lucky that BYU (and Arkansas among others) pretty much gagged all day.
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I think this is fair enough, but hard for me to call it a choke without knowing exactly what went down on that front nine down the stretch. Everybody else struggled with it all day too, so it's not like Wake fell apart on an easy stretch of a golf course.

If you really want to be mad at Wake for something, I think it's better to focus that attention to how poorly they performed on Monday, which is ultimately what put them in the position they were in yesterday.
 
tigerswood said:
I love message board semantics arguments. It's very possible for a team to play great for the first half, choke down the stretch, and come up clutch in OT to win, in all sports. That's exactly what happened here. We got lucky that BYU (and Arkansas among others) pretty much gagged all day.
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deacon14 said:
I think this is fair enough, but hard for me to call it a choke without knowing exactly what went down on that front nine down the stretch. Everybody else struggled with it all day too, so it's not like Wake fell apart on an easy stretch of a golf course.

If you really want to be mad at Wake for something, I think it's better to focus that attention to how poorly they performed on Monday, which is ultimately what put them in the position they were in yesterday.
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i would be genuinely curious to see a poll of people who think debates like this are interesting vs. stupid.

there are very fine people on both sides, of course
 

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looks like WF was the 5th-rated team at the regional:

5 Tennessee
7 Texas (playing on their home course)
12 Arkansas
22 Georgia
29 WF
30 ND
42 BYU
53 Utah

So WF played to seed, ND and Utah overachieved, and two SEC schools (UGA and Arky) choked.
 
Teams ahead of us that failed to advance:

3. Arizona State
8. Ole Miss
10. Alabama
12. Arkansas State (who lost by 3 shots to Arkansas State)
14. Washington
22. Georgia
25. Oregon
26. Duke

Stanford advanced by one shot in their own regional.

It's a "check yes or no" situation, and we checked "yes". Call yesterday what you want, but we battled early, faded late, and then rallied again to get it done when everything was on the line. That's gritty and I'm proud of us continuing on.
 
Guess it comes down to economics, but teams should not play regionals on their home course. We went through this last year when the WF women played at NC State in the Raleigh regional, but there is no sport where a home (course) advantage means more than golf. Lesser players that play the same course everyday always hold an edge over equal and even better players who are unfamiliar with the same course. Texas is good (#11), but they were the third seed in the regional, and won it by 16 shots. Texas also had the individual champ, and their top 4 finished in the 1,2,3 (T) and 7. The definition of a biased competition.
 
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One third of the top fifteen, not making the final seems like a lot

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Pilchard said:
Guess it comes down to economics, but teams should not play regionals on their home course. We went through this last year when the WF women played at NC State in the Raleigh regional, but there is no sport where a home (course) advantage means more than golf. Lesser players that play the same course everyday always hold an edge over equal and even better players who are unfamiliar with the same course. Texas is good (#11), but they were the third seed in the regional, but won it by 16 shots. Texas also had the individual champ, and their top 4 finished in the 1,2,3 (T) and 7. The definition of a biased competition.
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Still a huge advantage to the hosting team, but maybe come up with a way that if a home team qualifies then you take 6 teams from that region instead of 5.
 
saltydeac said:
Since my neg vibes seemed to work to get us through to the NCAAs I'll just say why the excitement when we will just get teased when it matters most on the big stage??? Haas and our boys in slacks can't get it done when it matter most!
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Good job!
 
ChrisL68 said:
One third of the top fifteen, not making the final seems like a lot

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Yeah, it's definitely strange that more teams ranked # 1-15 failed to make the final than teams ranked #16-30.
 
Pilchard said:
Guess it comes down to economics, but teams should not play regionals on their home course. We went through this last year when the WF women played at NC State in the Raleigh regional, but there is no sport where a home (course) advantage means more than golf. Lesser players that play the same course everyday always hold an edge over equal and even better players who are unfamiliar with the same course. Texas is good (#11), but they were the third seed in the regional, and won it by 16 shots. Texas also had the individual champ, and their top 4 finished in the 1,2,3 (T) and 7. The definition of a biased competition.
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Is it acceptable when WFU plays host on a course in W-S?
 
tigerswood said:
I love message board semantics arguments. It's very possible for a team to play great for the first half, choke down the stretch, and come up clutch in OT to win, in all sports. That's exactly what happened here. We got lucky that BYU (and Arkansas among others) pretty much gagged all day.
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it's not about semantics; it's about perspective

try the positive outlook some time. It makes life so much more pleasant!
 
Deacsfan27 said:
Teams ahead of us that failed to advance:

3. Arizona State
8. Ole Miss
10. Alabama
12. Arkansas State (who lost by 3 shots to Arkansas State)
14. Washington
22. Georgia
25. Oregon
26. Duke

Stanford advanced by one shot in their own regional.

It's a "check yes or no" situation, and we checked "yes". Call yesterday what you want, but we battled early, faded late, and then rallied again to get it done when everything was on the line. That's gritty and I'm proud of us continuing on.
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Arkansas State literally beat themselves?
 
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