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palmb03, you need to contact me

So literally no one agrees with palma that this was ever even possibly justifiable.

Just checking.
 
I paid, but no one's yet to explain how me not being in the league and being dormant fucks anyone over? that's where I'm losing the argument, I'm not taking any money out of anyone's pockets by not being there. When more people enter a poker tournament, the pot increases but your chances of winning the pot decrease proportionally, so everyone remains the same.
 
The only person "fucked over" is the person who didn't get to play in my stead, but I'm not paying that person.
 
palmab03 said:
I paid, but no one's yet to explain how me not being in the league and being dormant fucks anyone over? that's where I'm losing the argument, I'm not taking any money out of anyone's pockets by not being there. When more people enter a poker tournament, the pot increases but your chances of winning the pot decrease proportionally, so everyone remains the same.
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No, you lost the argument when it started.
 
keep your commitments. It is that simple.

christ, how do you not get it?
 
palmab03 said:
So in other words I'm right and you're just a blowhard?
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In no realm of possibility are you even to close to right on this.

Whether I'm a blowhard or not is completely subjective and irrelevant to the topic at hand.
 
Once you commit to a pay league you are in unless you decommit well before the draft to give the commish time to replace you.
 
Milhouse said:
keep your commitments. It is that simple.

christ, how do you not get it?
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but it monetarily affects no one.

All people equal - 16 players, $1,600 in the pot = each player expected to win $100
All people equal - 15 players, $1,500 in the pot = each player expected to win $100

There is no one currently in this league that is monetarily affected any bit whatsoever by what occurred. If someone drafts a team, it sucks and then they bail and don't pay that's one thing. That's someone losing at something and then backing out. There's a pretty significant difference between a loser welching and someone who just never showed up to begin with.
 
1500 is less than 1600, you understand this, yes? And you understand that post-draft means there are already 16 teams? You're either being obstinate or are truly, truly slow, I can't figure out which.
 
i have been in football leagues where a guy missed the draft, got stuck with a team he hated, and the league agreed to reduce the pot and the guy who missed the draft just wasn't eligible to win any money. most times, auto-drafted teams have to pay up. really depends on if you are in a league with friends or not.
 
If it was all about EV, nobody would enter fantasy leagues because they'd end up with the same amount of money they started with
 
IrishSlim said:
1500 is less than 1600, you understand this, yes? And you understand that post-draft means there are already 16 teams? You're either being obstinate or are truly, truly slow, I can't figure out which.
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And if one of the 16 teams in there isn't even playing and there's $1,500 in the pot you have not lost any money whatsoever monetarily.

I'm not arguing there weren't a million things I could have done to rectify the situation, but this whole claim of "I'm fucking someone over" just isn't true whatsoever, except for ruining the fun of the person who would have played instead of me. It makes more sense to pay that person than contribute to the pot.
 
palmab03 said:
And if one of the 16 teams in there isn't even playing and there's $1,500 in the pot you have not lost any money whatsoever monetarily.

I'm not arguing there weren't a million things I could have done to rectify the situation, but this whole claim of "I'm fucking someone over" just isn't true whatsoever, except for ruining the fun of the person who would have played instead of me. It makes more sense to pay that person than contribute to the pot.
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In your scenario, the winner will win $1500 instead of the $1600 that should be in the pot. That is less money, and only happening because of your negligence to follow through on a commitment you made.

It's a weird reaction, trying to concurrently reargue your original point while conceding. Nobody likes a half-asser. Own your fuck-up.
 
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