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SMU gets postseason ban, Larry Brown suspended 9 games, loss of 9 scholarships (NWT)

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The NCAA has banned SMU from 2016 postseason play and has suspended Larry Brown for 30 percent of the team's games this season because of a lack of head coach control, a source close to the situation said.

The 30 percent ban for Brown means he will miss nine games total. The school also will be hit with nine scholarship losses over the next three years, a source said, although it was two below the limit this past season. SMU also will be placed on three years' probation.

The school can appeal the findings.

This marks the third time a Brown-coached program has been sanctioned by the NCAA, with the others happening at Kansas and UCLA.

Part of the investigation at SMU stemmed from whether a former basketball administrator and ex-assistant coach Ulric Maligi helped Keith Frazier to become eligible to play at SMU, a source previously told ESPN.

The school and Brown met with the NCAA's committee of infractions in late June. Maligi took a leave of absence in the middle of last season, but was not found to be involved after the NCAA investigation, a source said.

A source said the former basketball administrator did not agree to speak with the NCAA about the investigation.

Brown did not have knowledge of any violation while it was going on, a source said. He learned about the violation after it occurred, but did not promptly report the issue and was not clear about the violation with the NCAA's enforcement staff when he was first interviewed by the NCAA.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...on-suspends-larry-brown-10-percent-team-games

They're a top 25 team going into the season. Doubt UNC gets a punishment that severe.
 
"NCAA Division I bylaw 11.1.1.1 states that an institution's head coach is presumed to be responsible for the actions of all staff members who report to him, and that the coach shall promote an atmosphere of compliance and monitor the activities of all staff members. If the NCAA determines that the bylaw was violated, the coach may be suspended, with the length of penalty dependent on the severity of violations."

So when is Roy getting suspending?
 
 
"NCAA Division I bylaw 11.1.1.1 states that an institution's head coach is presumed to be responsible for the actions of all staff members who report to him, and that the coach shall promote an atmosphere of compliance and monitor the activities of all staff members. If the NCAA determines that the bylaw was violated, the coach may be suspended, with the length of penalty dependent on the severity of violations."

So when is Roy getting suspending?

Supposedly they are using the "old rules" in the UNC case due to when the case started or something along those lines. The old rules are less severe than the new rules when it comes to coach responsibility. Regardless, Roy is not a young man. He'll retire before he'll coach through scholarship restrictions, post-season bans, probation, etc.
 
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Color me shocked by this.. I mean really, who didn't see this coming? Guy is as crooked as a mountain road.
 
Regardless, Roy is not a young man. He'll retire before he'll coach through scholarship restrictions, post-season bans, probation, etc.

Being the spring chicken he is, Larry Brown will grind through this at SMU.
 
Their golf team got hammered too. The defending NCAA individual champ won't get to compete for SMU in the postseason next year.
 
Their golf team got hammered too. The defending NCAA individual champ won't get to compete for SMU in the postseason next year.

The golf team issues are interesting.

Their coach self reported his infractions and then resigned, but the NCAA found there were way more instance of those infractions than he reported. The former coach (Josh Gregory) got a show cause order for 4 years, basically for lying to cover his ass.

Seems harsh to penalize all the players for those infractions. Bryson Dechambeau will likely stay an amateur until after the Masters and then turn pro.
 
The golf team issues are interesting.

Their coach self reported his infractions and then resigned, but the NCAA found there were way more instance of those infractions than he reported. The former coach (Josh Gregory) got a show cause order for 4 years, basically for lying to cover his ass.

Seems harsh to penalize all the players for those infractions. Bryson Dechambeau will likely stay an amateur until after the Masters and then turn pro.

That was the coach that led Augusta State (or whatever it is called now) to back to back NCAA titles, right?
 
That was the coach that led Augusta State (or whatever it is called now) to back to back NCAA titles, right?

Yes, same guy who took Patrick Reed after all of his alleged shenanigans at Georgia.
 
I hear you LK. May be harsh to punish players, but it is fair and necessary. Before you commit, do your homework to make sure your future programs takes the rules seriously. As many times as we hear about cheating, that should be part of the recruitment conversation/process. There has to be accountability from all individuals involved. Sometimes things will happen that are out of your control, but that blame goes the coaches/program, not the rules. If players expect coaches/programs to not cheat, that is one more layer of checks/balances. If the players have a sense of just being passive participants, that only fosters the cheating. It shouldn't be up to the kids to fix the system, but they are part of the solution to the extent they want to be. They will be more motivated to share in the responsibility if it is clear they will share in the accountability of the program. As for these bball players, they had every reason to expect the SMU program might go on probation as Brown's programs have before.
No sympathy for Brown either. His claim that it was just bc of one individual (defense sounds similar to his educators at UNC) doesn't hold water. Who hired that one assistant? The coach sets the tone and lets the coaches know what is expected and what won't be tolerated.
As long at there is so much money/power in college sports, the cheating will continue. But, that doesn't mean they have an excuse when they are caught. The punishments need to be more extreme than the payoffs if there is any hope in controlling the cheating. All the justifications for protecting certain people peripherally related to the cheating only support the cheating system. The culture is just rotten now in big money sports (BobKnightFan rant). It's up to the adults making all the money to fix it.
 
The golf team issues are interesting.

Their coach self reported his infractions and then resigned, but the NCAA found there were way more instance of those infractions than he reported. The former coach (Josh Gregory) got a show cause order for 4 years, basically for lying to cover his ass.

Seems harsh to penalize all the players for those infractions. Bryson Dechambeau will likely stay an amateur until after the Masters and then turn pro.

DeChambeau has said he's staying at SMU for his Senior year, for what it's worth. DeChambeau fun fact: his irons and wedges are all the same length. He wants a repeatable swing with minimum variation.

I wouldn't feel too bad for the SMU golf program. They just built a top-notch practice facility at Dallas Athletic Club a few years ago only to leave for the new Trinity Forest Golf Club, which is going to be awesome, next year. They have ridiculous donors.
 
SMU President Gerald Turner criticized the harshness of the penalties, and without mentioning the University of North Carolina by name, said other schools facing NCAA investigations and/or infractions rulings must be "shaking in their boots" after seeing the sanctions handed SMU
 
DeChambeau has said he's staying at SMU for his Senior year, for what it's worth. DeChambeau fun fact: his irons and wedges are all the same length. He wants a repeatable swing with minimum variation.

I wouldn't feel too bad for the SMU golf program. They just built a top-notch practice facility at Dallas Athletic Club a few years ago only to leave for the new Trinity Forest Golf Club, which is going to be awesome, next year. They have ridiculous donors.

which is precisely why they cheat so much.
 
It's been mentioned before in nba threads, but Larry brown demands things from other people that he is entirely unable/unwilling to do himself. He certainly knows basketball, but really sucks as a human being.
 
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