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BobHWS said:
The Chronicle of Higher Education has published an interesting study of the extent to which mandatory student fees fund the cost of college athletic programs. The report includes tables with details for most public (but not private) Universities. See below for the example of UNCC where mandatory student fees account for about half of UNCC athletic department revenues.

The $10-Billion Sports Tab
How College Students Are Funding the Athletics Arms Race
chronicle.com
11/15/15

...A river of cash is flowing into college sports, financing a spending spree among elite universities that has sent coaches’ salaries soaring and spurred new discussions about whether athletes should be paid. But most of that revenue is going to a handful of elite sports programs, leaving colleges like Georgia State to rely heavily on students to finance their athletic ambitions.

In the past five years, public universities pumped more than $10.3 billion in mandatory student fees and other subsidies into their sports programs, according to an examination by The Chronicle of Higher Education and The Huffington Post. The review included an inflation-adjusted analysis of financial reports provided to the NCAA by 201 public universities competing in Division I, information that was obtained through public-records requests.

The average athletic subsidy that these colleges and their students have paid to their athletic departments increased 16 percent during that time. Student fees, which accounted for nearly half of all subsidies, increased by 10 percent...

UNC Charlotte Total subsidies

Earned revenue 2014 $9,131,902
Total subsidies $20,459,306

Institutional subsidies $5,201,022
Student fees $15,258,284
Direct state government support $0
Earned Revenue $9,131,902

NCAA distributions $1,717,783
Royalties $672,614
Ticket sales $1,855,994
Other revenue $4,885,511
Total athletic funding $29,591,208
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Why are you posting this I'll tell you why. Because you're scared and you're going to run back to the ACC with your tail between your legs because that conference is the only thing that gives Weak any sort of legitimacy at all as a sports program, which is funny because the ACC is totally bereaved of any legitimacy anymore (not that it had any to begin with). I'm sorry that your football team had a hundred year head start on our and still isn't any better than our. But with the number of students that we have and the amazing growth of of our university and the ability to attract Top Flite students to the school, you know that we're going to dwarf you and that our athletic department will continue to grow even with just nominal fees. My school is a total bargan compared to Weak and I got just as good of an education at Charlotte with more diversity too. And I didn't have to live in Winston-Salem.
 
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GoNiners said:
Why are you posting this I'll tell you why. Because you're scared and you're going to run back to the ACC with your tail between your legs because that conference is the only thing that gives Weak any sort of legitimacy at all as a sports program, which is funny because the ACC is totally bereaved of any legitimacy anymore (not that it had any to begin with). I'm sorry that your football team had a hundred year head start on our and still isn't any better than our. But with the number of students that we have and the amazing growth of of our university and the ability to attract Top Flite students to the school, you know that we're going to dwarf you and that our athletic department will continue to grow even with just nominal fees. My school is a total bargan compared to Weak and I got just as good of an education at Charlotte with more diversity too. And I didn't have to live in Winston-Salem.
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Who's behind this parody again?
 
BobHWS said:
UNC Charlotte is just one of many schools that charge every student a fee to support intercollegiate sports, which effectively means a fee to support football. How much? According to an August 28 article in The Charlotte Business Journal every UNCC Charlotte student pays $320 per year, $200 of which is a general athletics fee and $120 of which is to pay off the debt on UNCC's $45M football stadium. Last year the fees totaled $4.7M which covered 60% of the football program's $7.8M in expenses.

Looking at the tables included in the Chronicle article, I was surprised to see how much revenue comes from "subsidies" (i.e. student fees) for many Power 5 conference schools (all of which receive huge amounts of TV money compared to a school like UNCC).

For example, according to the Chronicle, 15.8% or $13.2M of UVa's $83.7M sports budget comes from student fees. I wondered whether the mandatory student fee for athletics was really high enough to contribute so much money to the sports program. The answer is yes. There are about 21,000 students at UVa. $13.2M divided by 21,000 = $628.57.

According to UVa's website, the mandatory annual athletics fee for all students (undergrad and grad) enrolled in a degree program is $657.

Other examples:

Alabama's $153M sports program gets only $6M from student fees (but is it really necessary to squeeze all students for that extra $6M for such a rich sports program?)

Maryland gets $18.1M from student fees to help fund its $73.4M sports program and Rutgers gets $36.3M in subsidies to help fund its $76.6M sports program.

Texas is one of the few schools that receives no subsidy. Its sports budget is an astounding $161M.

Wake Forest charges relatively few fees in addition to its $47.1K annual tuition. However for students in the College of A&S, there is a "student activity fee" of $186/year. I wonder what that covers? Whatever it covers, it would not add up to much money (less than $1M), given that the number of students in the College is small.

Nevertheless, it's probable that the sports program at Wake does not pay for itself and that the university's budget contains a subsidy for sports (though such a subsidy is not revealed in WFU's annual financial report).
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I'm actually fairly familiar with the student activity fees at some schools as I have been fully funded at several institutions aside from the student activity fee. Having inquired everywhere how they will pay me a stipend and all of my tuition yet not an additional 50-150 bucks the answers are similar. At almost every place the answer has been gym membership and upkeep. At Brown, where I am now, it is gym upkeep and membership, as well as a subsidy and membership to the grad student bar so they can charge ridiculously low prices for booze.
 
Chronicle of Higher ED: The $10B Sports Tab-How College Students Are Funding it

Yeah. I'm not sure there's a big problem with this. Like Dixie said the fee goes to things student use that would likely cost more on a pay as you go basis.

Football costs are out of control but charging students for a major part of the campus experience and including free to low cost student tickets is not a problem.
 
PhDeac said:
Yeah. I'm not sure there's a big problem with this. Like Dixie said the fee goes to things student use that would likely cost more on a pay as you go basis.

Football costs are out of control but charging students for a major part of the campus experience and including free to low cost student tickets is not a problem.
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Right. I forgot to add free tickets/low cost tickets to sporting events.
 
My senior year at Charlotte they held a student referendum on increasing student fees by a couple hundred dollars (maybe $200) in order to fund the football team. It passed overwhelming, somewhere around 70-30 I believe.
 
BillBrasky said:
My senior year at Charlotte they held a student referendum on increasing student fees by a couple hundred dollars (maybe $200) in order to fund the football team. It passed overwhelming, somewhere around 70-30 I believe.
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I should have probably prefaced that out of the six schools I have been affiliated with dealing with this issue, one was WF for undergrad, then Emory, Brandeis, and Brown. So small private liberal arts schools.
 
BobHWS said:
Wake Forest charges relatively few fees in addition to its $47.1K annual tuition. However for students in the College of A&S, there is a "student activity fee" of $186/year. I wonder what that covers? Whatever it covers, it would not add up to much money (less than $1M), given that the number of students in the College is small.
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Guessing that's a fee to cover expenses unique to that academic program. If you're an engineering or science student, the university-provided resources you will use for your studies (equipment, laboratories, etc) obviously greatly exceed the resources needed by an English or political science student, so the university charges a fee to applicable students to cover those extra expenses. Has nothing to do with sports.
 
Say Hey Deac said:
Guessing that's a fee to cover expenses unique to that academic program. If you're an engineering or science student, the university-provided resources you will use for your studies (equipment, laboratories, etc) obviously greatly exceed the resources needed by an English or political science student, so the university charges a fee to applicable students to cover those extra expenses. Has nothing to do with sports.
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Huh? The "A" in College of A&S is "arts". I'm pretty sure everyone at Wake pays the Student Activities Fees.

Also, not sure what the "College of Arts and Sciences" actually is? Is it even a thing? I know at Wake there is the "Graduate School of Arts and Sciences" and the "Undergraduate College". I'm pretty sure the latter encompasses all of the undergraduate education at Wake.
 
I have no idea what it is either. I was assuming it encompassed graduate school sciences, PhD type shit.
 
Ah, so it's for stuff like "AWAKE all Night" and "Pigskin Pigout" and other stuff for the general student body. I wonder also if it goes towards "Shag on the Mag" and other bigger campus events.
 
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