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Screamindemon3
03-16-2011, 03:06 PM
Argentina/Paraguay Roster Announcement coming this afternoon!

BillBrasky
03-16-2011, 04:31 PM
GOALKEEPERS (3): Marcus Hahnemann (Wolverhampton Wanderers), Tim Howard (Everton), David Yelldell (MSV Duisburg)
DEFENDERS (9): Carlos Bocanegra (Saint-Etienne), Jonathan Bornstein (UANL Tigres), Timothy Chandler (FC Nürnberg), Steve Cherundolo (Hannover 96), Jay DeMerit (Vancouver Whitecaps), Oguchi Onyewu (FC Twente), Tim Ream (New York Red Bulls), Jonathan Spector (West Ham United), Zak Whitbread (Norwich City)
MIDFIELDERS (9): Michael Bradley (Aston Villa), Clint Dempsey (Fulham), Mikkel Diskeruud (Stabaek), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy), Maurice Edu (Rangers), Benny Feilhaber (AGF Aarhus), Stuart Holden (Bolton Wanderers), Jermaine Jones (Blackburn Rovers), Sacha Kljestan (Anderlecht)
FORWARDS (3): Juan Agudelo (New York Red Bulls), Jozy Altidore (Bursaspor), Edson Buddle (FC Ingolstadt)

deacvision7
03-16-2011, 04:32 PM
So, I guess JOZY!s injury a couple weeks ago wasn't as bad as I feared. That's good news.

siff
03-16-2011, 10:33 PM
I love international friendlies

deacvision7
03-16-2011, 10:42 PM
I love international friendlies

A weird POV. I detest them. Always scared that United's players are going to get injured.

club football >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> international football. And probably not even that close.

siff
03-16-2011, 10:55 PM
A weird POV. I detest them. Always scared that United's players are going to get injured.

club football >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> international football. And probably not even that close.

My perspective is a bit different, I guess, because I'm more focused on the progress of American football than I am United's drive toward more EPL titles.

tintinisahottie
03-16-2011, 11:31 PM
I love international football and club football and still hate friendlies in the middle of the season

Screamindemon3
03-17-2011, 12:53 AM
A weird POV. I detest them. Always scared that United's players are going to get injured.

club football >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> international football. And probably not even that close.

SMH

deacvision7
03-17-2011, 12:59 AM
My perspective is a bit different, I guess, because I'm more focused on the progress of American football than I am United's drive toward more EPL titles.

All good, brother from another mother!


sd3 -- time to understand that the USMNT doesnt even care about their own friendlies. They are fucking meaningless.



Cheers!

Screamindemon3
03-17-2011, 01:01 AM
All good, brother from another mother!


sd3 -- time to understand that the USMNT doesnt even care about their own friendlies. They are fucking meaningless.



Cheers!

LIES!!!! I hope Deuce comes after Felix in your sleep

deacvision7
03-18-2011, 10:02 AM
1) Felix would fuck up Deuce or anybody else that tried to mess with me in my sleep. Ferocious.


2) Bin Hammann has officially thrown his hat into the ring to challenge Sepp Blabber. Will be interesting as Asia and Africa have been the two confederations that have kept Sepp in control for too damn long. Now Asia might want their own guy in there and the Arabic speaking African countries might vote for their guy as well. At least that is my guess on first impression.

I still would vote for Grant Wahl. Some country needs to nominate him. Chuck Blazer...step up to the plate and do it already!

Screamindemon3
03-18-2011, 10:37 AM
Wahl for Pres!

Screamindemon3
03-18-2011, 01:24 PM
USMNT vs. Spain on June 4th at Gillette Stadium in Boston, Mass

deacvision7
03-18-2011, 01:25 PM
Campdevilla hopes JOZY won't be there.

Screamindemon3
03-18-2011, 01:27 PM
Can't wait for Torres not getting the callup because on no goals scored for Chelsea

siff
03-18-2011, 04:15 PM
USMNT vs. Spain on June 4th at Gillette Stadium in Boston, Mass

http://www.boston.com/sports/soccer/articles/2011/03/18/man_u_and_spain_have_foxborough_plans/

siff
03-18-2011, 04:18 PM
dv7 will NOT be at all amused.

Headline from the Globe:

Man U and Spain have Foxborough plans

siff
03-18-2011, 04:20 PM
Wahl for Pres!

Informal poll: who's the better boards candidate for FIFA pres?


sd3
dv7
WFRW

Screamindemon3
03-18-2011, 04:26 PM
DV7 does not care enough about international soccer and would force Man United down everyones throats. #fact

siff
03-18-2011, 04:30 PM
DV7 does not care enough about international soccer and would force Man United down everyones throats. #fact

Did you mean "facht?"

deacvision7
03-18-2011, 04:46 PM
DV7 does not care enough about international soccer and would force Man United down everyones throats. #fact

I would clean up FIFA so quickly.


Then I would hand out fines to the English FA everytime they treated the wonderful SAF unfairly. #BlatterOUT!

Screamindemon3
03-18-2011, 05:19 PM
I would clean up FIFA so quickly.


Then I would hand out fines to the English FA everytime they treated the wonderful SAF unfairly. #BlatterOUT!

Lol

Deacfan
03-18-2011, 05:40 PM
World Cup come back! I miss you!

Screamindemon3
03-18-2011, 05:48 PM
World Cup come back! I miss you!

1182 Days

Deacfan
03-18-2011, 05:52 PM
1182 Days

thats depressing :mad::tear:

Screamindemon3
03-18-2011, 05:56 PM
thats depressing :mad::tear:

8 days till Argentina. 11 till Paraguay. That better?

Deacfan
03-18-2011, 05:59 PM
8 days till Argentina. 11 till Paraguay. That better?

much better haha

Screamindemon3
03-18-2011, 06:11 PM
Agreed. So pumped to have tickets to the Paraguay match

siff
03-18-2011, 11:55 PM
Charlie Davies (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2011/03/davies-set-for-first-team-return.html#more)

I have an inside source on this - cross your fingers with Charlie's fitness...his knee is still pretty fucked up. Regardless, I can't wait to watch him return.

Screamindemon3
03-19-2011, 01:16 PM
Put Stu on the list of players with shredded knees/legs. Unbelievable

Screamindemon3
03-19-2011, 02:55 PM
I saw my mate, the other day, said he'd seen the white pele. So I asked, who is he? He said his name was Clint Dempsey!!!!

Screamindemon3
03-19-2011, 04:10 PM
Just heard a rumor that Lichaj is now going to be included in the roster for the upcoming friendly's!!! #usmnt

Screamindemon3
03-20-2011, 12:01 PM
Roster update: Cherundolo, Holden, Whitbread withdraw due to injury; Lichaj called into camp.

Screamindemon3
03-20-2011, 12:17 PM
In other news Freddy Adu just scored again

deacvision7
03-20-2011, 03:46 PM
Stu needed 26 stitches for his knee. God damn! No broken bones though, fortunately. Hopefully he is back in a week or so.

Deacfan
03-20-2011, 04:06 PM
Stu needed 26 stitches for his knee. God damn! No broken bones though, fortunately. Hopefully he is back in a week or so.

thats a lot

gsterp
03-20-2011, 04:10 PM
Stu needs to get an England national team style injury the week before the March friendlies next year. Last year de Jong happened, this year this happened the same week.

Screamindemon3
03-20-2011, 04:11 PM
same day IIRC

gsterp
03-20-2011, 07:36 PM
stuholden Stuart Holden
Not good news tweeps, speak tomorrow :(

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Screamindemon3
03-20-2011, 07:46 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

siff
03-20-2011, 09:22 PM
Confused.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Bolton-midfielder-Stuart-Holden-s-horror-injury-following-tackle-by-Manchester-United-s-Johnny-Evans-is-not-as-bad-as-first-feared-article715815.html

Sounds like he might be alluding to the 3-4 week injury? If that's all it is, I'm pleased. Could have been much worse

Manifest Destiny
03-20-2011, 10:00 PM
Stu tackle was bad but could have been even worse, guy just seems to have awful luck. When he first left Clemson to go to Sunderland he got jumped outside a bar and had his eye smashed in so bad that he missed an entire season. He is one of my favorite US players and I hate to see him go down.

deacvision7
03-21-2011, 01:09 AM
Shit. Don't like seeing that from Stu

Screamindemon3
03-21-2011, 05:07 AM
Hoping for the best. Fearing the worst.

deacvision7
03-21-2011, 07:54 AM
Stu out for 6 months.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/897094/bolton-star-stuart-holden-admits-fears-over-knee-injury?cc=5901

siff
03-21-2011, 08:17 AM
Fucking Jonny Evans, dv7. What an asshole. He just ruined my summer.

DultonDeac
03-21-2011, 08:25 AM
3-4 weeks.... now 6 months. That kid can't catch a break.

deacvision7
03-21-2011, 08:40 AM
Fucking Jonny Evans, dv7. What an asshole. He just ruined my summer.

I get that, but Stu went in with his studs showing as well. He was just unlucky that he was the one injured. Both players made dangerous tackle attempts.

Hate it for Stu, but even Gary Cahill said that Evans wasn't intentionally trying to hurt anyone. Just a really unfortunate injury.

deacvision7
03-21-2011, 08:44 AM
hahahhaha, Scott the Red is so biased. This will please y'all.
http://therepublikofmancunia.com/video-evans-red-card-vs-bolton/

"Jonny Evans was shown a straight red card for a challenge on Stuart Holten which saw the Bolton player receive a cut on his leg. Both players’ feet left the ground, with Evans’ winning the ball, but after the Bolton player came off worse, Evans was sent off.

Fergie’s right, the refs are shite."


Not sure how anyone thinks that wasn't a red card offense. Once it happened I said to myself, "down to 10, fuck." One of the easiest sending offs you'll ever see.

Lunadeac
03-21-2011, 09:16 AM
Stu is definitely one of my favs. He'll be back better than ever.

Screamindemon3
03-21-2011, 09:17 AM
I'm not even going to post my thoughts. I want to throw up

deacvision7
03-21-2011, 09:45 AM
stuholden Stuart Holden
Just had a sincere phone call from Jonny Evans wishing me the best in my recovery, def wasn't intentional, just unfortunate part of the game

gsterp
03-21-2011, 10:12 AM
I get that, but Stu went in with his studs showing as well. He was just unlucky that he was the one injured. Both players made dangerous tackle attempts.

Hate it for Stu, but even Gary Cahill said that Evans wasn't intentionally trying to hurt anyone. Just a really unfortunate injury.

He went in studs showing in only the most technical sense. Stu was looking to hook the ball to his left, and his boot was pointed in that direction. So yes, his studs were showing, but they weren't pointed at Evans. Like you said, it didn't seem intentional by any means, but they weren't equivalent challenges either.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/20/article-1367977-0B3F760900000578-569_468x282.jpg

deacvision7
03-21-2011, 10:13 AM
Evans also nearly went in two footed. His tackle was more dangerous, but Stu's was dangerous as well. All I'm saying.

Screamindemon3
03-21-2011, 11:27 AM
stuholden Stuart Holden
Just had a sincere phone call from Jonny Evans wishing me the best in my recovery, def wasn't intentional, just unfortunate part of the game

Good for Johnny Evans. Here's to a speedy recovery from Stu

Screamindemon3
03-21-2011, 02:29 PM
When can I go to the land of taboo and mention Freddy Adu?

tintinisahottie
03-21-2011, 02:44 PM
You won't do it SD3

Screamindemon3
03-21-2011, 02:48 PM
Ohhhhhh but I will

Screamindemon3
03-21-2011, 02:48 PM
Maybe...

Screamindemon3
03-21-2011, 03:52 PM
Jozy Altidore with a great turn and look on goal, but sends a blast just wide of the net in Bursaspor's match vs. Ankaragucu. 0-0, 78th

JehovahsWetness
03-21-2011, 04:00 PM
Really sucks about Stu, was dying to see him v. Paraguay. What would that mean now then in the midfield?


Lando----bradley---edu----clint
--------------jones---------------


jozy up top alone?

Screamindemon3
03-21-2011, 04:02 PM
Hmmm are we agreeing Bob will go 4-2-3-1?

gsterp
03-21-2011, 04:07 PM
I think he wants to, but I'm not sure that it's definitely the best fit.

JehovahsWetness
03-21-2011, 04:09 PM
i could see him trying two up front, but our strength in midfield is obviously greater than our strength up top. i think he'll start us out as a sort of 4-2-3-1/4-1-4-1, see how we do after we concede our early goal (given) and work from there.

Screamindemon3
03-21-2011, 04:11 PM
I wouldn't write off a Jozy/Agudelo combo up front.

JehovahsWetness
03-21-2011, 04:13 PM
I wouldn't write off a Jozy/Agudelo combo up front.

for argentina or paraguay? i wouldn't put money on us starting two up front against argentina...

Screamindemon3
03-21-2011, 04:17 PM
Ahh gotcha. I was thinking more long term gold cupish. Yeah i think bob plays it safe on Saturday. I think 4231 is what we get this weekend

Screamindemon3
03-21-2011, 05:10 PM
USMNT vs Argentina:


-----------------Jozy----------------
---Bradley------Deuce----Donovan---
-----------Jones-------Edu----------
Bocanegra--Onyewu--Demerit--Lichaj
-------------Howard----------------



USMNT vs Paraguay:

---------Jozy------Agudelo--------
Donovan---Mixx---Jones---Chandler
Borenstein--Bocanegra--Ream--Lichaj
-------------Howard----------------


***Total Guesses

Screamindemon3
03-21-2011, 05:15 PM
Could easily be off on the paraguay match. If we are playing to win (field our best team possible) then I think the only change that is made is sliding Donovan to the middle of the 4-2-3-1 and maybe chandler on the wing. I dont think Deuce plays in the paraguay match and he will recieve a well deserved rest. If we play to gain experience for out younger prospects then I dont think we can field a 4-2-3-1, thus the 4-4-2 i went with. Again, just guesses

xmandeac
03-22-2011, 12:27 AM
Can't see Bradley on the left.

Screamindemon3
03-22-2011, 12:42 AM
Yeah I thought about that. And then remembered something about that Bradley played on the wing once is his earlier NT caps? So I moved Deuce to the middle. Could easily switch those back and not have a problem

Screamindemon3
03-22-2011, 12:43 AM
remembered reading something*******

JehovahsWetness
03-22-2011, 12:48 AM
Can't see Bradley on the left.

Thought that as well. Maybe use Edu further forward, he's not bad when he pushes into attack and can net some clutch goals (ask Rangers).

I'd say...


--------------jozy---------------
lando---------------------deuce
---------mo-------bradley------
-------------jones---------------


use that barca formation. doubt it'll happen but i love the look of it.

Screamindemon3
03-22-2011, 12:51 AM
agreed. could easily see a 4-1-4-1 with Jones being the back one. Its just so up in the air at the moment

JehovahsWetness
03-22-2011, 12:53 AM
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=10150120702668941&id=32421823940&aid=289585

Screamindemon3
03-22-2011, 12:58 AM
If practices werent closed to the public I would make the trip in a heartbeat

Screamindemon3
03-22-2011, 01:01 AM
Ohh and I was reading the comments section of some article this afternoon, one comment really stuck out to me. Basically a poster ranting about how Michael Bradley has 50 Caps with the national team and 0 assists. I said no way thats true, then began thinking back as many goals as I could remember. Can anyone think of a goal MB assisted. I love MB, and in no way am I a hater, I just couldnt believe that the comment may be true.

JehovahsWetness
03-22-2011, 01:09 AM
He went in studs showing in only the most technical sense. Stu was looking to hook the ball to his left, and his boot was pointed in that direction. So yes, his studs were showing, but they weren't pointed at Evans. Like you said, it didn't seem intentional by any means, but they weren't equivalent challenges either.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/20/article-1367977-0B3F760900000578-569_468x282.jpg

^ This

xmandeac
03-22-2011, 01:16 AM
I also wouldn't be surprised to see Edu in the back or on the bench and have someone a little more creative used in the center or on the left in attack.

Screamindemon3
03-22-2011, 01:18 AM
I would be surprised to see Edu on the bench. Very surprised, actually.

deacvision7
03-22-2011, 01:36 AM
^ This

Jaime Carragher.

Screamindemon3
03-22-2011, 01:40 AM
Jaime Carragher.

GOT PWNED BY JOZY IN THE WORLD CUP

JehovahsWetness
03-22-2011, 08:40 AM
Jaime Carragher.

I agree. Carra's tackle was absurd and deserved red, but in the instance we're talking about, the two tackles weren't equivalent. Stu was trying to win the ball and bring his foot around it. Evans tried to go straight through the ball and Holden.

Also, did Nani even get stitches?! (http://turbo.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2009/11/skeptical-hippo-1.jpg) He was playing like a week later!

Screamindemon3
03-22-2011, 08:43 AM
Leaving for the Paraguay match in approximately 7 Days and 17 Minutes.

Countdown Started

Deacfan
03-22-2011, 08:56 AM
I watched the confederation cup goals and the World Cup goals by our boys in red white and blue and damnit I'm ready for it to happen all over again... except more wins :p

deacvision7
03-22-2011, 09:00 AM
Nani got stitches. Holden is out because he unfortunately suffered ligament damage as well.

Screamindemon3
03-22-2011, 09:10 AM
I watched the confederation cup goals and the World Cup goals by our boys in red white and blue and damnit I'm ready for it to happen all over again... except more wins :p

One of my all time favorites

xXkModt0v1s

siff
03-22-2011, 11:15 AM
One of my all time favorites

xXkModt0v1s

I <3 fastbreak goals

gsterp
03-22-2011, 11:18 AM
Thought that as well. Maybe use Edu further forward, he's not bad when he pushes into attack and can net some clutch goals (ask Rangers).

I'd say...


--------------jozy---------------
lando---------------------deuce
---------mo-------bradley------
-------------jones---------------


use that barca formation. doubt it'll happen but i love the look of it.

I think Bradley would be much better closer to goal than Edu.

I think overall we're getting sucked into the trap of misguided expectations on our style of play. We can all talk about creativity, playing like the elite Euro teams, etc. We haven't suddenly developed that talent.

What we do well is counterattack. We're actually very good about doing that and applying high pressure. LD and Deuce are workhorses on the wings, and give us the capability of playing without the ball in most scenarios. Our assorted combination of central mids are just as much a tireless group that can play a pressuring style and still have recovery time. This style also helps to minimize our technical weakness, especially across the backline. That's that reason we are generally able to hang with technically superior teams (Mexico being the prime example), yet get frustrated against inferior teams that look to bunker us.

I think one key step in becoming a successful team is to understand your strengths and not try to be something you're not. Eventually in time we might be able to adjust our style, but with this current generation of players, we counterattack, and do it damn well. It's just not always the most aesthetically pleasing to watch as a fan.

deacvision7
03-22-2011, 11:21 AM
Donovan's first touch was simply sublime on that goal.

Screamindemon3
03-22-2011, 12:40 PM
Donovan is simply sublime.
:werd:

Deacfan
03-22-2011, 05:54 PM
Im just concerned about our strikers, they just kindda dont show up during the world cup. they havent scored in what? 2 world cups? Jozzzzzzzzzzzy was obviously key in the Spain game and I could of sworn that he would of helped propel us deep into the World Cup even though he's just a kid. Really excited about the Gold Cup tho.

Screamindemon3
03-22-2011, 07:27 PM
Im just concerned about our strikers, they just kindda dont show up during the world cup. they havent scored in what? 2 world cups? Jozzzzzzzzzzzy was obviously key in the Spain game and I could of sworn that he would of helped propel us deep into the World Cup even though he's just a kid. Really excited about the Gold Cup tho.

Jozy
Agudelo
Bunbury
Davies

I think we have made that turn upwards regarding young talented forwards.

Wakeforest22890
03-22-2011, 08:09 PM
I just watched the Jozy opening goal against Spain in the Confed Cup like 20 times in a row. I love that goal.

Screamindemon3
03-22-2011, 08:11 PM
I just watched the Jozy opening goal against Spain in the Confed Cup like 20 times in a row. I love that goal.

In Xbox live CoD lingo: "wow kid get turned on"

Deacfan
03-22-2011, 08:53 PM
Jozy
Agudelo
Bunbury
Davies

I think we have made that turn upwards regarding young talented forwards.

yeah, very talented young bunch to say the least

Screamindemon3
03-22-2011, 08:57 PM
Really really really stoked about the NT future

Screamindemon3
03-22-2011, 09:03 PM
On my phone or I would post the pic over here

New USMNT third shirt photos? bit.ly/gBSBMi The guys over at Football Shirt Culture have some leaked photos. #usmnt

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 10:03 AM
Am were at 6 day in the Paraguay countdown now

JehovahsWetness
03-23-2011, 10:09 AM
yeah, very talented young bunch to say the least

2014 could be really really interesting for us when you look at what our starting XI could be (granted, it's hard to get a sense of what it'll be 3 years in the future).


---------------Howard/Guzan/Johnson------------------
Lichaj----------Onyewu/Ream-----


It's almost impossible to think about the lineup, I give up. So much depends on how our prospects do over the next couple years domestically and on international duty. But, if you take a look at our young guns (among others), it is pretty promising...

GK -
Brad Guzan (26yo)
Sean Johnson (21yo)

DEF -
Timothy Chandler (20)
Eric Lichaj (22)
Tim Ream (23)
Gale Agbossoumonde (19)

MID -
Anthony Ampaipitakwong (22)
Alejandro Bedoya (23)
Mikkel Diskerud (20)
Brek Shea (21)
Dax McCarty (23)

FOR -
Teal Bunbury (21)
Charlie Davies (24)
Jozy Altidore (21)
Juan Agudelo (18)


....pretty promising stuff all around.

deacvision7
03-23-2011, 10:13 AM
Brek Shea and Dax McCarty blow.

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 10:17 AM
Brek Shea and Dax McCarty blow.

Agreed Brek Blows. I wouldn't write off Dax yet though.

Those who could also be included:
Joe Gyau
Omar Salgado
Perry Kitchen
Somebody Gatt. To lazy to look it up.

Can't wait to watch these guys run train in the U-20

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 10:21 AM
Josh Gatt

Someone with ESPN Insider repost this article on here please. I'd like to read about Gatt and Ole Gunnar

http://insider.espn.go.com/sports/soccer/blog?name=us_national_soccer&id=6243175&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fspo rts%2fsoccer%2fblog%3fname%3dus_national_soccer%26 id%3d6243175

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 10:22 AM
Also add Omar Gonzalez to the Defender pool

DDeac08
03-23-2011, 10:24 AM
It's not hard to put together a list of young American soccer players -- or those of any other nationality for that matter -- who have washed out in Europe. Even for talented prospects, failure in the sink-or-swim environment of European club soccer can come quickly and mercilessly. Often it's less a question of skill than that of being in the wrong situation, such as playing on a team loaded at a certain position or under a coach whose tactics simply don't match a player's strengths.

But other times, the pieces just fall into place.

That's what seems to be brewing in Norway for 19-year-old Michigan native Josh Gatt. After signing with Austrian club SC Altach last year, the winger was scooped up this winter by Norwegian top division club Molde, where legendary Manchester United winger Ole Gunnar Solskjaer had just taken over as coach.

Relatively unheralded at the youth level, Gatt nevertheless turned pro straight out of high school after being discovered by European clubs on a youth team trip to the continent. He spent just half a year with Altach before being sought out by the Norwegian side.



For him to move on to Austria and in a short time be seen by Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is impressive. I think that Solskjaer and Josh are similar in size and have a similar playing style, so really he couldn't be in a better place as far as development. Some guys go to Europe and it takes them a while to develop and grow, but Josh is off and running.
” -- U.S. U-20 coach Thomas Rongen

"For him to move on to Austria and in a short time be seen by Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is impressive," U.S. U-20 coach Thomas Rongen said. "I think that Solskjaer and Josh are similar in size and have a similar playing style, so really he couldn't be in a better place as far as development. Some guys go to Europe and it takes them a while to develop and grow, but Josh is off and running."

In his short professional career, Gatt has shown the potential to become an extraordinary winger. With speed to burn, he can play on either side of the field, much like his coach did for years at Manchester United.

A Norwegian soccer legend, Solskjaer spent twelve seasons at Manchester United, scoring 126 goals, including 20 in European competition, for Sir Alex Ferguson. He did most of that damage at the front end of an injury-shortened career, while becoming a fan favorite for his penchant for scoring big goals in key situations -- including the dramatic championship winner in extra time of the 1999 Champions League final.

"I've worked with a lot of coaches, but I've really never met anybody that knows exactly what I need to do at my position," Gatt said by phone from Norway. "Everything he sees in me, if I learn it, it will get me one step closer to being at the level he was at, so that's what I want. All I can do is take his advice and put it into my game."

Solskjaer looks to have some pretty good raw material to work with. At his first U.S. national team camp in December, Gatt debuted with a breakout performance in a friendly against Canada's under-20s, scoring twice and assisting on three more goals in a 5-0 win.

But under Solskjaer's tutelage, the American's ceiling now figures to be much higher. Since arriving at Molde in January, Gatt has been working individually with his new coach on the specific tactics and techniques needed to become a world-class winger.

"The best piece of advice he's given me is that I need to find a way to create more space between myself and opposing outside backs," Gatt said. "If I can do that I can really wreak havoc during games, I can be a threat to the point where I can be really positive the whole game, but I need to find a way to create that space for myself."

Gatt looks to have done well enough in Molde's preseason training to put himself in line for plenty of playing time as the Norwegian season (which follows a calendar similar to MLS' to avoid frigid winter temperatures) kicks off. In his team's opening match over the weekend, Gatt came on in 57th minute of a 3-0 away loss.

News of the young American's continued progress has proved a mixed blessing for Rongen, though. As a firm part of Solskjaer's plans, the attacker wasn't released for this month's CONCACAF under-20 World Cup qualifying tournament in Guatemala. (Since the tournament falls outside FIFA match dates, clubs are not required to release their players.)

"My coach has decided that he wants me here to find my rhythm and play," Gatt said. "He's going to have me maybe start a few games, and he wants me here to test myself before I go travelling anywhere else. If we make the World Cup, and they'd like to have me back, I'm almost one hundred percent certain I'd be released for that."

If Gatt can pick up even some of what Solskjaer shows him in his first few months in Norway, Rongen will likely be called for the U-20 World Cup in July. In the meantime, the long-term perspective is overwhelmingly positive for the U.S. program, despite the fact that Rongen will be missing a key attacking piece for the qualifying tournament.

"Let's be honest, clubs can have a huge impact and can really make a difference with players on our team," the coach said. "We can develop them in games, but the truth is that growth comes from their clubs. Josh is in a good situation. It sounds like he's going to get some playing time with Molde and that should help him continue to grow as a player."

Down the road, both the player and the U.S. national team stand to benefit from Gatt's close relationship with one of the better wing players to grace European fields in recent decades. Youth World Cup qualifying conflicts aside, as far as a club situation for a young player goes, it doesn't get much better.

deacvision7
03-23-2011, 10:27 AM
''I'm trying to make a better Turkish national team,'' Hiddink said. ''If I can't do that, I'll ask the chairman to sack me. Six points from these two games is vital. If we don't get that I can offer my resignation to the chairman and then it's up to him. It will mean that I am not a successful manager.''


Whoa. Does he want to get back into club football?

If the US fails in the Gold Cup can we sack Bob and hire Guus?

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 10:30 AM
Good article. Thanks DDeac08

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 10:36 AM
Wow not sure how I forgot Bobby Wood either. One of our U-20 forwards that has broken into the 1860 Munich lineup a few time this season. I'm just posting these as they pop into my head.

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 10:47 AM
ALEJANDRO! ALEJANDRO! Ale Ale andro Ale Ale andro!

uQa6ZAvOH08

wsc8521s
03-23-2011, 10:52 AM
Turkey is in trouble in their group after losing 1-0 @ lowly Azerbaijan in their last match, so not surprised Guus is feeling some heat. Play up-and-coming Austria at home on Tues in a MASSIVE game for them.

Might post a Euro qualifier preview in the next day or two, very psyched for the matches. C'mon Irish!

deacvision7
03-23-2011, 10:52 AM
Belgium will crush them. All hail the new overlords of international football!

JehovahsWetness
03-23-2011, 10:53 AM
Brek Shea and Dax McCarty blow.

Shea's 21. He's still got plenty of time. And McCarty isn't "blow"-worthy. Give them time.

JehovahsWetness
03-23-2011, 10:55 AM
Agreed Brek Blows. I wouldn't write off Dax yet though.

Those who could also be included:
Joe Gyau
Omar Salgado
Perry Kitchen
Somebody Gatt. To lazy to look it up.

Can't wait to watch these guys run train in the U-20


I said "among others" you dick! I have a schedule to maintain and didn't have time to put others in there (...I had time).

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 10:56 AM
Shea's 21. He's still got plenty of time. And McCarty isn't "blow"-worthy. Give them time.

I really hate Brek Shea. He just had that abysmal match his last time out for the Nats. Just awful. Love Dax though. He will play for us. Received the captains armband before playing a match for DC United? Yeah, he will make his way onto the roster.

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 10:58 AM
I was just including the others. Don't piss your pants joemamas wetness
:thumbsup:

JehovahsWetness
03-23-2011, 11:03 AM
I was just including the others. Don't piss your pants joemamas wetness
:thumbsup:

Leave Joe's mother out of this.


The#USMNT warming up. Another gorgeous day! http://twitpic.com/4cg2t6
41 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

There's been a #USMNT jozy sighting. All 22 are in.


...So pumped.

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 11:07 AM
I see lots of surrounding woods. We could def sneak in that camp....

JehovahsWetness
03-23-2011, 11:12 AM
I see lots of surrounding woods. We could def sneak in that camp....

They're totally unprotected. Would be a cakewalk. Lando's small, i have a large duffel. Ideas?

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 11:14 AM
They're totally unprotected. Would be a cakewalk. Lando's small, i have a large duffel. Ideas?

Pretty sure they'd spot my erection from a mile away. NTTAWWT

deacvision7
03-23-2011, 11:14 AM
Shea's 21. He's still got plenty of time. And McCarty isn't "blow"-worthy. Give them time.

They are both mediocre at everything I've seen them do. Ever.

They blow and won't reach anywhere near international quality, IMO.

JehovahsWetness
03-23-2011, 11:23 AM
They are both mediocre at everything I've seen them do. Ever.

They blow and won't reach anywhere near international quality, IMO.

I agree that Shea didn't do well in his nat's appearances but there were only two of them. Call me a hopeless optimist but I'm in favor of giving both time.

And I think Dax could be a decent squad player. Maybe not a starter now but somebody to provide cover. Pretty sure this year will be very telling for his Int. career.

I'm always in favor of giving everybody a fair look.

deacvision7
03-23-2011, 11:28 AM
A player's quality should show by age 23. I have seen very little from Dax.

Same reason I want United to sell Gibbo this summer, even though I love him, he simply isn't good enough for a club like MUFC.

JehovahsWetness
03-23-2011, 11:34 AM
A player's quality should show by age 23. I have seen very little from Dax.

Same reason I want United to sell Gibbo this summer, even though I love him, he simply isn't good enough for a club like MUFC.

I imagine that's been frustrating to watch. He shows flashes of class (his long range strikes are disgusting) but has never made that extra push into the first team.

But, yeah, 23 is about the age where you've either seen what you want to see or you get rid. We haven't seen a great deal of McCarty, but I think he's going to get a few more looks this year. If he doesn't step up, then I'm all for axing him.

TuffaloDeac10
03-23-2011, 11:43 AM
Belgium will crush them. All hail the new overlords of international football!

HAIL MAROUANE!

gsterp
03-23-2011, 12:49 PM
Dax will be fine for filling in against second-tier CONCACAF opponents. There's a need for those types of players so that we don't burn out the first team players with travel and/or piss off their club team managers.

Also, I'm not ready to write off Shea. Dallas has switched him to center back, so let's see how he does in that role.

BTB
03-23-2011, 02:04 PM
The discussion on the EPL thread had me thinking about who the captain for the US team at the next world cup would be. Boca could still be the guy but it seems unlikely given his age. Can Bradley get away with giving it to his son, or is it a foregone conclusion that Donovan is the guy?

gsterp
03-23-2011, 02:33 PM
I'd be surprised if it was anyone but Donovan, with Howard as the vice. Bradley should probably be getting in for next cycle.

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 02:33 PM
The discussion on the EPL thread had me thinking about who the captain for the US team at the next world cup would be. Boca could still be the guy but it seems unlikely given his age. Can Bradley get away with giving it to his son, or is it a foregone conclusion that Donovan is the guy?

I think its the obvious here. ive heard a lot about baby bradley getting the armband but i doubt it will happen. Donovan is the front runner.

JehovahsWetness
03-23-2011, 03:43 PM
I'd love to see Bradley get it, but, like everyone else has said, Donovan has to be the choice with Howard as vice and Deuce as vice-vice

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 03:47 PM
I'd bet Holden is vice vice vice after he tears in up in qualifying.

JehovahsWetness
03-23-2011, 04:32 PM
can't wait for him to be captain

lBcy2bStHto

siff
03-23-2011, 04:38 PM
I can't stand Brek Shea. He brings nothing

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 04:42 PM
can't wait for him to be captain

:eek: that's taboo!

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 04:42 PM
I can't stand Brek Shea. He brings nothing

:werd:

deacvision7
03-23-2011, 04:45 PM
I can't stand Brek Shea. He brings nothing

http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachments/f11/405727d1300357223-unknown-swiss-pocket-watch-key-wound-need-help-identify-please-applause-gif

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 04:49 PM
Charlie Davies on taking the PK on Saturday: "Dax walked over to me, and I was like, ‘Yeah, I’m taking this.’ " wapo.st/eayeZP

fuheel
03-23-2011, 04:56 PM
http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/mediaUS/20060114/w_mccarty_195.jpg

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 05:16 PM
If this doesn't get you, then I'm not sure theres much in life that will...

a6NTGtj304k

Chills

JehovahsWetness
03-23-2011, 05:22 PM
that's pretty amazing.

BTB
03-23-2011, 08:47 PM
Awesome video. Thanks.

Did anyone watch the game? Wondering if there's a noticeable difference in his athleticism and pace. More than anything, that's what he's trying to regain, right?

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 08:48 PM
When he dribbled the keeper those legs were pumping. Just saying.

siff
03-23-2011, 11:07 PM
that's pretty amazing.

thanks, sd3. great stuff

Screamindemon3
03-23-2011, 11:29 PM
thanks, sd3. great stuff

It got me from the first 10 seconds. Probably helps that I was at the Costa Rica match that night.

Screamindemon3
03-24-2011, 12:32 AM
New red jerseys are out.

Deuce look so bad ass in this picture rocking the red

On Sale Now bit.ly/RedAllOver #RedAllOver The new #USMNT Red Jersey twitpic.com/4cndog

deacvision7
03-24-2011, 12:38 AM
Awesome video.

Screamindemon3
03-24-2011, 03:04 AM
The stanky leg that fades to the stanky leg in the Nats jersey was simply awesome.

HuskyDeac
03-24-2011, 05:07 AM
So this is where everyone disappeared to. Thanks for the heads up...

DeacMan
03-24-2011, 08:17 AM
Greetings. Our guys will be wearing this against the Argies. It is about time we went back to red. It is a primary color afterall.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/03/23/sports/soccer/nike1/nike1-articleInline.jpg

deacvision7
03-24-2011, 09:19 AM
Welcome Husky and DeacMan!

deacvision7
03-24-2011, 09:20 AM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/898109/artificial-clouds-could-keep-2022-world-cup-cool?cc=5901


WTF? Artificial CLOUDS?! That Qataris are some silly people.

deacvision7
03-24-2011, 09:21 AM
Greetings. Our guys will be wearing this against the Argies. It is about time we went back to red. It is a primary color afterall.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/03/23/sports/soccer/nike1/nike1-articleInline.jpg

That is SHARP

Screamindemon3
03-24-2011, 09:37 AM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/898109/artificial-clouds-could-keep-2022-world-cup-cool?cc=5901


WTF? Artificial CLOUDS?! That Qataris are some silly people.

:wtfgay:

JehovahsWetness
03-24-2011, 10:18 AM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/898109/artificial-clouds-could-keep-2022-world-cup-cool?cc=5901


WTF? Artificial CLOUDS?! That Qataris are some silly people.

Ha! That's absurd. Facepalm

TuffaloDeac10
03-24-2011, 10:26 AM
Greetings. Our guys will be wearing this against the Argies. It is about time we went back to red. It is a primary color afterall.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/03/23/sports/soccer/nike1/nike1-articleInline.jpg

Awesome look.

Dick Whitman
03-24-2011, 10:28 AM
That red shirt is fantastic. Kind of glad now that I didn't get a new blue or white one for the world cup. I will definitely be ordering one of these

wakephan09
03-24-2011, 10:31 AM
Greetings. Our guys will be wearing this against the Argies. It is about time we went back to red. It is a primary color afterall.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/03/23/sports/soccer/nike1/nike1-articleInline.jpg

that is a thing of beauty. wow.

Screamindemon3
03-24-2011, 10:42 AM
Anyone seen the edited pictures of the players wearing them? They look awesome. I'd post them but can't get the code since I'm on my phone.

Deacfan
03-24-2011, 12:09 PM
/youtubeQG2PsWstODI

Deacfan
03-24-2011, 12:10 PM
QG2PsWstODI

Deacfan
03-24-2011, 12:11 PM
jbn3rOPmR9w

Deacfan
03-24-2011, 12:11 PM
Greetings. Our guys will be wearing this against the Argies. It is about time we went back to red. It is a primary color afterall.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/03/23/sports/soccer/nike1/nike1-articleInline.jpg

amazing

JehovahsWetness
03-24-2011, 12:31 PM
Don't know if this was posted yet, but...


Cu1XzR65F5M


there are also a couple other videos of their training on the sidebar as well. also, matt, this practice looks somewhat open to the public...not happy.



dv7 note: this scouse lover can't figure out the youtube thing. By this time next year, I expect improvement, sir.

NoVaDeac
03-24-2011, 12:35 PM
QG2PsWstODI

I had forgotten that there was a disallowed good goal in the Algeria game as well. My anger at Mali resulted in temporary memory gaps.

Deacfan
03-24-2011, 12:37 PM
I had forgotten that there was a disallowed good goal in the Algeria game as well. My anger at Mali resulted in temporary memory gaps.

I remember when I was watching all the highlights it still friggen kills me to see the shitty calls that didnt go our way especially that one.

TuffaloDeac10
03-24-2011, 12:40 PM
I remember when I was watching all the highlights it still friggen kills me to see the shitty calls that didnt go our way especially that one.

None of the shitty calls prevented us from "winning" our group and our only goal in our final game was a penalty. Bottom line: Refs, though poor, didn't cost us anything.

Screamindemon3
03-24-2011, 01:12 PM
Don't know if this was posted yet, but...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu1XzR65F5M


there are also a couple other videos of their training on the sidebar as well. also, matt, this practice looks somewhat open to the public...not happy.

I cant quite tell if thats public or not. I know yesterday USSoccer twitter was talking about the great turnout of coaches and scouts that were invited to come down and watch the practices to gain some experience from the coaches at the national level. However, I think I saw a kid and a woman standing on the fence, so that may disprove that theory.

GreenDeac
03-24-2011, 01:22 PM
Don't know if this was posted yet, but it's one of my favorites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYqzLXL_Us

Dick Whitman
03-24-2011, 01:25 PM
Don't know if this was posted yet, but it's one of my favorites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYqzLXL_Us

One of my all time favorites. Deuce crying at the end always gets me.

PiYqzLXL_Us

wsc8521s
03-24-2011, 01:50 PM
Competitors and spectators at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar could be kept cool by artificial clouds hovering above stadiums, according to Qatari scientists.

Link (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/898109/artificial-clouds-could-keep-2022-world-cup-cool?cc=5901)

Screamindemon3
03-24-2011, 02:00 PM
God I'm so ready to be in Nashville Tennessee

rawarr
03-24-2011, 02:08 PM
Ugh. Imagine if we hadn't blown that lead against Brazil.

deacvision7
03-24-2011, 02:09 PM
None of the shitty calls prevented us from "winning" our group and our only goal in our final game was a penalty. Bottom line: Refs, though poor, didn't cost us anything.

DING!

wsc8521s
03-24-2011, 02:19 PM
None of the shitty calls prevented us from "winning" our group and our only goal in our final game was a penalty. Bottom line: Refs, though poor, didn't cost us anything.

Only counter argument I have is that had we beaten Slovenia we wouldn't have been under as much pressure vs Algeria, potentially allowing us to have more in the tank when we played Ghana a little over 72 hours later.

But I'm willing to admit that's a stretch. Also who knows if we would've won the group if we didn't have to beat the Algerians, and if we didn't that would've meant Germany and certain elimination.

siff
03-24-2011, 02:54 PM
Don't know if this was posted yet, but...


Cu1XzR65F5M


there are also a couple other videos of their training on the sidebar as well. also, matt, this practice looks somewhat open to the public...not happy.



dv7 note: this scouse lover can't figure out the youtube thing. By this time next year, I expect improvement, sir.

Pretty fucking shot by Deuce at the end. He's the man

deacvision7
03-24-2011, 02:57 PM
Ze Germans would have ass raped the shit out of us.

Deacfan
03-24-2011, 02:59 PM
yeah I know they didnt really cost us anything, just that one call made me loose my mind at the time.

deacvision7
03-24-2011, 03:00 PM
http://d.yimg.com/i//ng/sp/eurosport/20100129/25/889cccbebc0c0efbd31d71cbfc2d0838.jpg

Deacfan
03-24-2011, 03:03 PM
http://d.yimg.com/i//ng/sp/eurosport/20100129/25/889cccbebc0c0efbd31d71cbfc2d0838.jpg

:bullshit::bullshit::bullshit::wtftard::fu:

that is all

Screamindemon3
03-24-2011, 03:06 PM
I want to comment on that picture but really don't want to see a little black kid yelling at me afterwards.

bernbp5
03-24-2011, 04:05 PM
Watching the replay of the Algeria game, and I had a question. I don't know all the rules of soccer, but on the Donovan goal, why was our guy who was in the net not offsides? Ball behind him, and only one guy in front of him(the guy lying on him)

deacvision7
03-24-2011, 04:06 PM
Watching the replay of the Algeria game, and I had a question. I don't know all the rules of soccer, but on the Donovan goal, why was our guy who was in the net not offsides? Ball behind him, and only one guy in front of him(the guy lying on him)

Not involved in the play. As in, he didn't interfere with the goal going in directly.


He is what you would call "passively offside." It's the part of the offside rule that most people (including more Asst Refs than I would like) understand.

BillBrasky
03-24-2011, 04:09 PM
Only counter argument I have is that had we beaten Slovenia we wouldn't have been under as much pressure vs Algeria, potentially allowing us to have more in the tank when we played Ghana a little over 72 hours later.

But I'm willing to admit that's a stretch. Also who knows if we would've won the group if we didn't have to beat the Algerians, and if we didn't that would've meant Germany and certain elimination.

yep this was/is my argument

bernbp5
03-24-2011, 04:26 PM
Not involved in the play. As in, he didn't interfere with the goal going in directly.


He is what you would call "passively offside." It's the part of the offside rule that most people (including more Asst Refs than I would like) understand.

How do they determine passively offsides? I'd imagine that would be very contentious.

Screamindemon3
03-24-2011, 04:39 PM
Scoreline predictions?

USMNT 1-1 Argentina

USMNT 3-2 Paraguay

deacvision7
03-24-2011, 04:41 PM
How do they determine passively offsides? I'd imagine that would be very contentious.

If you don't play the ball or attempt to then you are passively offside, but won't be called offside.

For example:

Let's say a forward is jogging back after a goalie punted the ball. A CB on his team wins a header and launches it back towards him. A midfielder on his team, who was onside, reacts quickest and runs after the ball. If the forward continues to just walk back to his side and does not try to become involved in the play, then he is just passively offside and should not be called "offside." Unless he interferes with a defender on the other team trying to track back or something like that.

deacvision7
03-24-2011, 04:43 PM
Another more blatant case of somebody being passively offside:

-97g-sAA1UU

If the ball would have touched the guy down on the goal line and then gone in, it would have been ruled out for offside since he became "involved" in the play.

deacvision7
03-24-2011, 04:45 PM
HAHAHAHHAHA, no fucking way. A ProEvo vid best shows this:

KjI_plnbgns

That is similar to what I tried to describe earlier. Not ruled offside because the forward did not interfere with the ball or any defenders, he simply realized he was in an offside position and walked away.

Screamindemon3
03-24-2011, 04:49 PM
HAHAHAHHAHA, no fucking way. A ProEvo vid best shows this:

KjI_plnbgns

That is similar to what I tried to describe earlier. Not ruled offside because the forward did not interfere with the ball or any defenders, he simply realized he was in an offside position and walked away.

Pretty sue they would have called this one

deacvision7
03-24-2011, 04:50 PM
I don't if I'm the AR.

Screamindemon3
03-24-2011, 04:52 PM
Yeah well you know way more of the technical terms of the rules than I do so you're probably right. I just feel like that's one that would be called.

deacvision7
03-24-2011, 04:54 PM
Yeah well you know way more of the technical terms of the rules than I do so you're probably right. I just feel like that's one that would be called.

I could see it called if the AR has a quick trigger, but hopefully he waits a second to see how it develops. The FWD doesn't impact that play at all and the flag should stay down, and I think would if it didn't go up immediately after the ball was played in to near the guys' feet.

wsc8521s
03-24-2011, 06:13 PM
Another example from one of my favorite goals. Notice Arshavin hanging out by the ad boards:

oCluw-QNY4k

siff
03-24-2011, 06:57 PM
If you don't play the ball or attempt to then you are passively offside, but won't be called offside.

For example:

Let's say a forward is jogging back after a goalie punted the ball. A CB on his team wins a header and launches it back towards him. A midfielder on his team, who was onside, reacts quickest and runs after the ball. If the forward continues to just walk back to his side and does not try to become involved in the play, then he is just passively offside and should not be called "offside." Unless he interferes with a defender on the other team trying to track back or something like that.

Exactly. If the passively offside (not offsides :tard:) player isn't involved in the play and didn't obstruct the keeper, for example, in any way, the goal stands.

JehovahsWetness
03-24-2011, 07:18 PM
Scoreline predictions?

USMNT 1-1 Argentina

USMNT 3-2 Paraguay

I'd be pretty thrilled with a draw against a strong Argentina side. Especially with news today that Messi is "definitely starting". Will be interesting to see how they line up, but we should definitely be looking push them.


US 2 - 2 Argentina or an optimistic US 2 - 1 Argentina

Possibly optimistic, but clearly they are weakest at the back and strongest at the front. I can see them scoring one early, as we are prone to conceding within the first 15 min with us pulling one back shortly before the half. The second half could be a bit cagey, but I expect us to be playing primarily off the break and nick one there.

US 3 - 1 Paraguay

We are stronger than them in essentially every position. The big battle for me will be Cardozo (he travelled right?) and Gooch/DeMerit. Cardozo is a huge target and could do well to hold up the ball. But I think the combo of Bradley and/or Jones should be enough to break up those sort of attacks. We should be able to boss the midfield and control most of the game, but Paraguay are no mugs and should give us some worry.

deacvision7
03-24-2011, 08:16 PM
If Paraguay brought their real 1st team then we are NOT stronger than them.

JehovahsWetness
03-24-2011, 08:18 PM
If Paraguay brought their real 1st team then we are NOT stronger than them.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I believe we are.

Riveros, Barrios and Valdez are a pretty potent threat with Caceres anchoring. But overall, we have them covered. Look at their World Cup. They drew a shitty Italy, beat a decent Slovakia and drew an apparent threat in New Zealand.

They're a strong side, but if we put out our strongest XI and them as well, I see us coming good.

deacvision7
03-24-2011, 08:29 PM
It's pretty close to even, IMO.

I give us: GK, CBs
I give them: LB/RB, FWDS
Midfield is a split. Both teams strong here.

Screamindemon3
03-24-2011, 11:31 PM
It's pretty close to even, IMO.

I give us: GK, CBs
I give them: LB/RB, FWDS
Midfield is a split. Both teams strong here.

Any team we have beat in any position on the back line will not have me shaking in my boots. I think we are better than Paraguay, all things considered.

deacvision7
03-24-2011, 11:33 PM
Our CBs aren't that bad. Our outside backs are pitiful and draw our CBs out of position far too often. Seriously, our outside backs are fucking terrible.

I would go to a flat back 3 if the manager, just so I didn't have to watch the ineptness of the outside backs. Ugh.

Screamindemon3
03-24-2011, 11:38 PM
Our CBs aren't that bad. Our outside backs are pitiful and draw our CBs out of position far too often. Seriously, our outside backs are fucking terrible.

I would go to a flat back 3 if the manager, just so I didn't have to watch the ineptness of the outside backs. Ugh.

Agreed it would be great to see a Timothy Chandler or a Lichaj develop on the outside for us. Also, I really think our team with a healthy Stuart Holder in that CAM position would fully change the complexion of our team as we know it. I was so ready to see it vs Argentina dammit

gsterp
03-25-2011, 12:09 AM
Our CBs aren't that bad. Our outside backs are pitiful and draw our CBs out of position far too often. Seriously, our outside backs are fucking terrible.

I would go to a flat back 3 if the manager, just so I didn't have to watch the ineptness of the outside backs. Ugh.

Left back, yes. Dolo has been one of our better players for over a decade at right back though, and Spector has filled in well at times. Waiting to see what Chandler can do there (assuming he's used as a back)

deacvision7
03-25-2011, 12:51 AM
Spector had filled in well at RB against a quality opponent? When the fuck did that happen?


I know the thought to most is that a flat 3 back is scary, but if taught right, it can be so devastating. I love that formation.

Screamindemon3
03-25-2011, 12:55 AM
Spector had filled in well at RB against a quality opponent? When the fuck did that happen?


I know the thought to most is that a flat 3 back is scary, but if taught right, it can be so devastating. I love that formation.

Spector had a fairly good '09 CONFED cup. Other than that :noidea:

tintinisahottie
03-25-2011, 02:44 AM
amazing


Spector had filled in well at RB against a quality opponent? When the fuck did that happen?


I know the thought to most is that a flat 3 back is scary, but if taught right, it can be so devastating. I love that formation.

Napoli and Udinese have been using it to great effect. Pool's used it a couple times as well

fuheel
03-25-2011, 07:58 AM
flat back 3 works well with attacking fullbacks/wingbacks who like to stay wide - not really sure we have those types either.

http://images3.makefive.com/images/entertainment/television/best-snl-sketches-ever/debbie-downer-7.jpg

siff
03-25-2011, 08:19 AM
To me, one of the things about soccer I love most is the tactical part of the game - specifically, how different formations affect play and how you can compensate for, or fall victim to, personnel issues. My daughter's HS team just went from four across the back to a flat three.

Screamindemon3
03-25-2011, 09:10 AM
Just watched a recap on the 07 Gold Cup match between us and Canada. The squad we field this summer would probably beat that squad by 4-5 goals. The improvement in our NT since then is amazing.

Screamindemon3
03-25-2011, 09:15 AM
Alright so 4-5 goals is a stretch after thinking about it. Not near that actually. But it is still easy to see how much we have improved in 4 years. The future is bright.

Screamindemon3
03-25-2011, 12:38 PM
Arg lineup vs USA: Andújar; Zanetti, Burdisso, Milito, Rojo; Banega, Mascherano, Cambiasso; Lavezzi, Messi, Di María

rawarr
03-25-2011, 12:57 PM
Beat Argentina you hairy USMNT!

And don't injure my Di Maria in the process, kthx.

deacvision7
03-25-2011, 12:59 PM
Who is Rojo?

Screamindemon3
03-25-2011, 01:00 PM
Beat Argentina you hairy USMNT!

And don't injure my Di Maria in the process, kthx.

Donovan, Howard, and the Bradleys say :rock:

JehovahsWetness
03-25-2011, 01:45 PM
Arg lineup vs USA: Andújar; Zanetti, Burdisso, Milito, Rojo; Banega, Mascherano, Cambiasso; Lavezzi, Messi, Di María

That's a really strong lineup. Banega is a phenomenal player and could give our guys all sorts of problems. Also, Lavezzi, Messi and Di Maria...well...

deacvision7
03-25-2011, 01:46 PM
I love Ever. Absolutely LOVE him.

JehovahsWetness
03-25-2011, 01:47 PM
I love Ever. Absolutely LOVE him.

Really want to see him in the EPL. His game is so fun to watch.

gsterp
03-25-2011, 01:51 PM
Arg lineup vs USA: Andújar; Zanetti, Burdisso, Milito, Rojo; Banega, Mascherano, Cambiasso; Lavezzi, Messi, Di María

Bunch of scrubs IMO

BarcaDeac
03-25-2011, 03:41 PM
USMNT vs. Spain at Gillette Stadium on June 4th

Screamindemon3
03-25-2011, 04:08 PM
Grant Wahl

Sounding like US midfield vs ARG may be Bradley & Jones (holding) and Donovan, Edu & Dempsey. Not surprising given the opponent. Your take?

My take, umm duh

Screamindemon3
03-25-2011, 04:10 PM
Jones hinted this morning that EDU will be the mid playing forward in front of him and Bradley.

Screamindemon3
03-25-2011, 04:11 PM
Tweets saying that Timothy Chandler impressed in camp and Lichaj did not

deacvision7
03-25-2011, 04:44 PM
Jones hinted this morning that EDU will be the mid playing forward in front of him and Bradley.

I'd swap Baby Bradley and Edu, but that's just me. I'm fine with it this way as well. I'm sure it will be fluid.

JehovahsWetness
03-25-2011, 05:06 PM
Tweets saying that Timothy Chandler impressed in camp and Lichaj did not

Lichaj's form is hot and cold. Would like him to start v. Argentina, but if Chandler looks up to it, I'm all for seeing him get minutes. Could get torn apart by Di Maria, however.

Screamindemon3
03-25-2011, 10:19 PM
Who's ready?

deacvision7
03-25-2011, 10:53 PM
It's a friendly.

Screamindemon3
03-25-2011, 11:43 PM
It's a friendly.

:fu:












:thumbsup:

Screamindemon3
03-26-2011, 02:12 AM
Gameday let's gooooooo!

AMERICA!!!....

deacvision7
03-26-2011, 02:37 AM
Friendly. Means nothing.

Screamindemon3
03-26-2011, 02:41 AM
Friendly. Means nothing.

:fu:

Screamindemon3
03-26-2011, 02:47 AM
Friendly. Means nothing.

But seriously. Counts towards world ranking which in turn counts towards qualification seeding and ultimately, top 8 seeding for 2014 World Cup. So yes, it actually has meaning.

deacvision7
03-26-2011, 03:03 AM
Haha. No, it doesn't.

HuskyDeac
03-26-2011, 03:19 AM
Tim Howard said his most memorable game was the last friendly against Argentina. So it certainly matters to some players. I love full strength matches of any kind.

deacvision7
03-26-2011, 03:21 AM
I'll certainly watch and be rooting for a win....but it doesn't really matter. That is my point.

BillBrasky
03-26-2011, 03:31 AM
Haha. No, it doesn't.

I hate to agree with DV7 on this thread, but he's right.

I need to take a shower.

Screamindemon3
03-26-2011, 07:58 AM
Tim Howard said his most memorable game was the last friendly against Argentina. So it certainly matters to some players. I love full strength matches of any kind.

And as a mathematical number in rankings. I don't see how that makes it meaningless.

siff
03-26-2011, 08:06 AM
It does matter. Perform well against Argentina, build upon it and continue toward world futbol dominance. Destiny.

Screamindemon3
03-26-2011, 11:11 AM
Wales vs England on ESPN2

Fatty Lampard puts eng up 1-0 from the spot

deacvision7
03-26-2011, 11:18 AM
Darren Bent makes it 2. Too easy.

Screamindemon3
03-26-2011, 11:19 AM
It was a great decision to play Donkey over bent in the WC. Thanks Capello

Screamindemon3
03-26-2011, 11:40 AM
Wales is bad

DDeac08
03-26-2011, 12:40 PM
Wales would have at least 3 goals right now if Bale was playing.

BTB
03-26-2011, 01:56 PM
Thought Ahsley Young was really good today. Of course Capello took SWP to the world cup (and played him) and left Young and Walcott at home. Was baffling then, and is baffling now.

Screamindemon3
03-26-2011, 02:47 PM
Ohhhhh when the Yanks! Gooo marching innnn! Oh when the yanks go marching innnnnn!!!! Oh how I wannnnt, to be in that numberrrrrr! Oh when the yanks go marching innn!!!!!

deacvision7
03-26-2011, 02:48 PM
What time is the match again? Yes, I'm that lazy.

Screamindemon3
03-26-2011, 02:53 PM
7:00

xmandeac
03-26-2011, 03:19 PM
It doesn't "matter," but it's big in terms of having these guys playing together against quality competition before the Gold Cup. I hope we show up.

BillBrasky
03-26-2011, 04:26 PM
ARGENTINA CAN BLOW ME

GO U-S-A!

siff
03-26-2011, 04:35 PM
ARGENTINA CAN BLOW ME

GO U-S-A!

lezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzggggggggggoooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooo!

Pissed. Missing this game tonight for a fundraiser...though it is a soccer fundraiser, which makes it acceptable, I suppose (and it's a soccer fundraiser planned by one of Wake's own). The Galway Hooker had best show this game this evening. REDALLOVER! INDIVISIBLE!

Deacfan
03-26-2011, 05:11 PM
ARGENTINA CAN BLOW ME

GO U-S-A!

U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A,U-S-A

BillBrasky
03-26-2011, 05:30 PM
From the twitter:

Not dressing tonight for the USMNT: David Yelldell, Eric Lichaj, Benny Feilhaber and Mix Diskerud.

BillBrasky
03-26-2011, 06:02 PM
Also from the twitter:

Howard; Spector, DeMerit, Onyewu, Bocanegra (c); Jones, Bradley, Edu; Dempsey, Donovan; Altidore

Damn I wanted to see Chandler at RB, besides that its pretty predictable