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    Quote Originally Posted by morrison2951 View Post
    We'ev heard here in Raleigh from ESPN affiliate 99.9 The Fan that the two sides are, in fact, talking and that the drop dead date to cancel the WC has been pushed all the way back to Nov. 15.
    Didn't see this until after I posted...who's that coming from? Yahoo is saying its been cancelled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobStackFan4Life View Post
    It's crazy. Absolutely crazy. The sides are so close. I can't believe the majority of owners support this. Too much power in the hands of a few.
    They don't even need a majority. I think owners need 75% to approve a proposal, so Bettman only needs 8 owners to turn it down, and one team is owned by the NHL. (So your last sentence is even more true.)

    Of course, if enough other owners wanted this done they could push for it to happen, so really everyone is at fault. (For example, if it really is the cash poor teams driving this thing, the cash rich teams could offer up increased revenue sharing in the years of a phased-in reduction in the revenue split with the players to help the poor teams in the interim. But rich teams apparently would rather go to a lockout than share money.)

    Ryan Lambert is always good for a solid rant:

    We have seen the lockout enemy, and he is awful NHL teams (Trending Topics)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadbolt View Post
    Didn't see this until after I posted...who's that coming from? Yahoo is saying its been cancelled.
    TV broadcaster, John Forslund, who was interviewed this morning on air:

    http://hurricanes.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=46114

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    In the teeniest of tiniest of potentially positive signs, Scott Hartnell has told his Finnish team that he is still waiting on CBA negotiations and won't be heading that way at the end of November as planned earlier. (He's on the negotiating committee.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by avalon View Post
    In the teeniest of tiniest of potentially positive signs, Scott Hartnell has told his Finnish team that he is still waiting on CBA negotiations and won't be heading that way at the end of November as planned earlier. (He's on the negotiating committee.)
    The Canes beat writer at the N&O tweeted something about the Canes practicing harder than usual today at RCI, and that maybe they know something we don'.

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    AP and other outlets reporting it now. Winter Classic is dead.

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/11/...r-classic.html



    I'm so done with this.

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    Everybody is mentioning these 8 losers, but there are a lot more than 8 teams losing money every year. Are the rich teams going to be making up the share for the unnamed teams as well? Gonna need a few more cash cows if that is the case. Most of the teams not losing money are just breaking even.
    Last edited by BigEastDeac; 11-02-2012 at 03:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigEastDeac View Post
    Everybody is mentioning these 8 losers, but there are a lot more than 8 teams losing money every year. Are the rich teams going to be making up the share for the unnamed teams as well? Gonna need a few more cash cows if that is the case. Most of the teams not losing money are just breaking even.
    Plenty of owners, across all sports, hold teams as an investment vehicle rather than an income generator. Those owners would be the ones willing to spend to build a successful team, because a successful team will increase the value of the franchise.

    I feel sympathy for those teams that are operating near the salary floor and are losing money. But I refuse to feel bad for teams that choose to spend above their revenues. We don't need to fix the system so the Caps can be profitable. Same with the Kings, Penguins, Flyers, Wild, Flames, Devils, Sabres. They all chose not to be.

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    As we just discussed on Sportscentre. NHL advised PA it will absorb share of Make Whole provision. This is a considerable concession.
    whoa.

    ETA: I misread that and thought they had agreed to pay the entire provision. Nevermind, not that huge of a deal, but it's something.
    Last edited by avalon; 11-02-2012 at 06:34 PM.

  11. #151
    Scuttlebutt on my Twitter feed is that "serious progress was made last night".

    No idea what that really means.

  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by DeacHead View Post
    Scuttlebutt on my Twitter feed is that "serious progress was made last night".

    No idea what that really means.
    It's gonna look idiotic if an agreement is reached just days after cancelling a money/publicity generator like the WC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobStackFan4Life View Post
    It's gonna look idiotic if an agreement is reached just days after cancelling a money/publicity generator like the WC.
    I would bet that if they come to an agreement in the next 48 hours the WC would be back on.

  14. #154
    Awesome that they had a meeting, even more so that it was long (lasted until 1am), covered key issues, and both guys avoided all media other than issuing hopeful statements free of details. But it is still just the first time in the entire process where they are really discussing the issues that are holding up the negotiations. (In November, FFS.) There is still a ton to negotiate, even after they figure out the revenue split.

    It is funny that many writers predicted a Thanksgiving / Dec 1st start before the lockout began. For that to happen, they only have 2-3 weeks to get a CBA complete, which leaves very little wiggle room for temper tantrums, backtracking, and complaining to the media. Feeling a touch of hope, here, though!

  15. #155
    I wonder how the people of Canada are handling this- they must be in mourning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobStackFan4Life View Post
    I wonder how the people of Canada are handling this- they must be in mourning.
    They must be angry as hell. They already hated (American) Bettman for moving some of their teams to the US. Now many of those teams are struggling and we're stuck in another lockout.

    I'm not gonna lie, I like this angry fan video:


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    Quote Originally Posted by avalon View Post
    Plenty of owners, across all sports, hold teams as an investment vehicle rather than an income generator. Those owners would be the ones willing to spend to build a successful team, because a successful team will increase the value of the franchise.

    I feel sympathy for those teams that are operating near the salary floor and are losing money. But I refuse to feel bad for teams that choose to spend above their revenues. We don't need to fix the system so the Caps can be profitable. Same with the Kings, Penguins, Flyers, Wild, Flames, Devils, Sabres. They all chose not to be.
    I would be amazed if the Flyers aren't profitable even considering how much they spend.

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    That was pretty ridiculous. There was also a link to a "Gangam Style" NHL lockout parody that I'm sorry I clicked on. But it is out there if you want to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwing42 View Post
    That was pretty ridiculous. There was also a link to a "Gangam Style" NHL lockout parody that I'm sorry I clicked on. But it is out there if you want to see it.
    Why did you have to mention it. Why am I posting it.

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