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Our Next BB Coach or #MannUp + other coach talk

OldGoldandGrobe said:
Runs a clean program. Gets results. Doesn't back down from douches like Roy and K. What's so bad about that?
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If there was anything that could seperate me from Wake Forest basketball, outside of a Baylor style murder cover-up, it would be hiring Bob Knight.
 
There are reports that Ben Howland has a good chance of getting fired after the season. That would certainly put Wake at least down to #2 as most coveted job openings.
 
daaberry said:
There are reports that Ben Howland has a good chance of getting fired after the season. That would certainly put Wake at least down to #2 as most coveted job openings.
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Who covets serving a fanbase which will only give him one year before publicly libeling and slandering him? This fanbase alienated the coaching fraternity. We will shoot for someone way off the radar.
 
stonz said:
Sleeper Coach Tracker: 10/20
-Ben Jacobson (#78 Northern Iowa): Dropped a few spots after losing @ #21 UNLV by 14 last night. Now 6-5 on the year, projected to go 16-14 (10-8), 4th in the MVC.

-Andrew Toole (#113 Robert Morris): Next game: Tonight at #79 Arkansas (-7)
-Chris Holtmann (#139 Gardner Webb): Next game: Sat. vs Spalding(?)
-Michael White (#108 La Tech): Next game: 12/29 vs #83 Denver (+2)
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Sleeper Coach Tracker: 10/21
-Andrew Toole (#113 Robert Morris): L 79-74 @ #79 Arkansas. Drops 2 spots to #115. Now 8-5, projected to go 22-9 (14-4), winning the conference by a game over Wagner.

-Ben Jacobson (#78 Northern Iowa): Next game: Tomorrow vs. #37 St. Mary's (-1)
-Chris Holtmann (#139 Gardner Webb): Next game: Tomorrow vs Spalding(?)
-Michael White (#108 La Tech): Next game: 12/29 vs #83 Denver (+2)
 
OldGoldandGrobe said:
Who covets serving a fanbase which will only give him one year before publicly libeling and slandering him? This fanbase alienated the coaching fraternity. We will shoot for someone way off the radar.
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When did you turn into an AD shill? Next you'll be selling us on giving Lobo another shot.
 
Strickland33 said:
When did you turn into an AD shill? Next you'll be selling us on giving Lobo another shot.
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He realized that we are in such a state of uproar that toting the company line is now the more effective line of trolling. If you were a moron you could almost admire it
 
stonz said:
Sleeper Coach Tracker: 10/21
-Andrew Toole (#113 Robert Morris): L 79-74 @ #79 Arkansas. Drops 2 spots to #115. Now 8-5, projected to go 22-9 (14-4), winning the conference by a game over Wagner.

-Ben Jacobson (#78 Northern Iowa): Next game: Tomorrow vs. #37 St. Mary's (-1)
-Chris Holtmann (#139 Gardner Webb): Next game: Tomorrow vs Spalding(?)
-Michael White (#108 La Tech): Next game: 12/29 vs #83 Denver (+2)
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Northern Iowa has played a tough non-con schedule(Louisville, Memphis, Stanford, George Mason, UNLV and St. Mary's) and other than a recent lopsided loss at UNLV they've played these guys close. Looking forward to seeing what they do in conference.
 
simosfrostyone said:
no one worth having is coming here until we have an AD who can bring in someone worth having.
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I am very worried that this may be true... Is there a decent coach willing to work for Ron Wellman?
 
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Sleeper Coach Tracker: 10/23
-Ben Jacobson (#79 Northern Iowa): Next game: Today vs. #35 St. Mary's (-1)
-Chris Holtmann (#141 Gardner Webb): W 83-54 vs Spalding. Finished with non-conference play at 8-6. Projected to go 11-5 in conference play. Now 2nd most likely to win the conference, after UNC-Asheville pulled off b2b upsets @Northeastern and @St. John's.

-Andrew Toole (#116 Robert Morris): Next game: 1/3 vs #252 Bryant (+12)
-Michael White (#107 La Tech): Next game: Saturday vs #77 Denver (+1)
 
stonz said:
Sleeper Coach Tracker: 10/23
-Ben Jacobson (#79 Northern Iowa): Next game: Today vs. #35 St. Mary's (-1)
-Chris Holtmann (#141 Gardner Webb): W 83-54 vs Spalding. Finished with non-conference play at 8-6. Projected to go 11-5 in conference play. Now 2nd most likely to win the conference, after UNC-Asheville pulled off b2b upsets @Northeastern and @St. John's.

-Andrew Toole (#116 Robert Morris): Next game: 1/3 vs #252 Bryant (+12)
-Michael White (#107 La Tech): Next game: Saturday vs #77 Denver (+1)
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Ben Jacobson and Northern Iowa upset #35 St. Mary's yesterday.
 
OldGoldandGrobe said:
Who covets serving a fanbase which will only give him one year before publicly libeling and slandering him? This fanbase alienated the coaching fraternity. We will shoot for someone way off the radar.
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In my defense I started publicly trashing him five minutes after his name was leaked. It was a stupid hire and pretty much everyone around the country let out a collective "WTF" or at least "Who is that?" when his name was announced.

The worst marks against us at WFU are that we have a small, apathetic fanbase, a moronic, out-of-touch, douchebag of an AD, and not much money. Firing a shitty coach who never should have been hired is the least of our problems.
 
CHillDeac said:
Ben Jacobson and Northern Iowa upset #35 St. Mary's yesterday.
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Yep. Great win.

Sleeper Coach Tracker: 10/24
-Ben Jacobson (#79 Northern Iowa): W 82-75 over #35 St. Mary's. Moves up to #73. Now 7-5, projected 17-13 (10-8), 4th in the MVC.

-Chris Holtmann (#142 Gardner Webb): Next game: 1/5 @ #284 Campbell (+5)
-Andrew Toole (#116 Robert Morris): Next game: 1/3 vs #250 Bryant (+13)
-Michael White (#106 La Tech): Next game: Saturday vs #75 Denver (+1)
 
As far as basketball goes, we're not an apathetic fan base when we win. We were called the toughest place to play in the ACC not that long ago.

Our biggest problem in attracting a good coach is that our douchebag AD doesn't want the basketball coach to recruit elite talent.
 
We're not a fairweather fanbase either. It took 3 years to get people to stop going outside in the tornado that is our basketball program.
 
daaberry said:
There are reports that Ben Howland has a good chance of getting fired after the season. That would certainly put Wake at least down to #2 as most coveted job openings.
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Ben Howland is as good as gone
 
VaDeac said:
As far as basketball goes, we're not an apathetic fan base when we win. We were called the toughest place to play in the ACC not that long ago.

Our biggest problem in attracting a good coach is that our douchebag AD doesn't want the basketball coach to recruit elite talent.
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I'm afraid that the recruiting issues are coming down from higher than Wellman
 
buckets said:
I'm afraid that the recruiting issues are coming down from higher than Wellman
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This is a strategic decision and would be a legitimate issue for discussion at the Board of Trustee level. If President Hatch or Ron Wellman has made a unilateral decision to severely handicap our major sports programs, it is an issue for the BOT. That kind of decision has significant long term ramifications for; conference competitiveness, athletic funding, coaches willing to come to Wake, attractiveness to a larger applicant pool of students, and (potentially) membership in the ACC. (I would not think that the other member schools of the ACC would want to continue subsidizing a school that has decided to become a permanent beneficiary of the conference's generous distribution formula.)

There is no way that the BOT hired Hatch thinking that he was going to sabotage our athletic programs. If there has been a decision not to pursue top athletic talent, it is definitely an issue for the BOT. I sincerely hope that some of the Trustees are aware of these concerns. If some of you have an opportunity to speak with a Trustee, please express your concerns on this issue.

I'm going to use this to start a thread on this topic...
 
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