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Ongoing gun violence/injury thread

Richard Groves: This is who we are.


“I want you to know this is not Poway,” Steve Vaus, the mayor of Poway, Calif., told reporters shortly after a 19-year-old man walked into the Chabad of Poway synagogue and shot and killed one person and wounded three others.

It was a plea we have heard from mayors and ordinary citizens across the country whose communities have been devastated by violence so gross that it broke the heart of a nation.

This is not Poway. This is not Parkland. This is not Charleston. This is not Sutherland Springs.

“People who live in (fill in the blank) would not walk into a house of worship or a school or a movie theater or a concert and indiscriminately kill innocent people. This is not who we are.”

It is not who they are.

But it is who we are.

John Earnest, Dylann Roof, Adam Lanza, Devin Patrick Kelley and Tristyn Andrew Terrell were not terrorists from some country bent on doing us harm. They were not extremists who were warped by twisted versions of Islam. They were young white men who went to our churches, played on our playgrounds and educated in our schools. They are the products of our culture...



...This is ours to deal with.

We must think more clearly than the legislators in Florida who recently passed a law allowing teachers to bring guns to class, a superficial and potentially deadly idea supported by the National Rifle Association.

The issues are deeper, more profound and complex, going to the very roots of American culture: the values we live by rather than the ones we profess; the dangerous ideas we allow to go unchallenged and unchecked; the way we shape our boys and young men.

To paraphrase Peele, the pastor, the minister of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church in Poway and Earnest’s pastor: We can’t pretend that we don’t have some responsibility. The shooters were radicalized in our communities, churches, schools and neighborhoods.

There is something deeply wrong in our culture. Until we face that painful truth, there will be no lasting change.

“Not everything faced can be changed,” said James Baldwin, a famed novelist, playwright and activist, “but nothing can be changed until it is faced.”
 
So he shot three officers and he's still alive. The rest of cops probably said "thank you for your service" after they arrested him.

When are we going to realize that our military is a breeding ground for white supremacy and violence against Americans including domestic violence, cop killers, domestic terrorists, and otherwise? It's time to root these elements out of the military and police.
 
A single post on a mass shooting with 10+ dead says it all.

Yep. Like Trump's tweet insults and threats, these outrages are becoming so common that people on both sides are tuning them out. And that shouldn't happen, as doing so favors the "gun rights" lobby. Yet here we are.
 
A single post on a mass shooting with 10+ dead says it all.

Shooter used a suppressor. And extended mags. And served in the national guard.

Shocker.

Thoughts and prayers.

But remember, the real threat to Americans are the “animals” at the border, not our own.
 
Someone else used their military training against Americans.

And we collectively shrug.
 
Deadliest mass shooting in the US this year, and it is not even front page news or shocking anymore.
 
Need armed guards in every building and on every street corner I n America at all times, dummies.
 
In January, Virginia GOP killed bill to ban sales of large-capacity magazines


...Each year, Democrats propose multiple gun-control measures, such as strengthening background checks, limiting handgun purchases to one per month and allowing localities to regulate guns in public buildings. They call these “common-sense” measures to save lives.

Each year, Republican majorities in one or both chambers of the legislature vote them down, usually in committee. GOP legislators say their goal is never to infringe on people’s Second Amendment rights.

“There’s been no tragedy that has gotten the [Republican] majority to think twice and consider reasonable efforts,” said state Sen. Adam P. Ebbin (D-Alexandria), who sponsored SB1748 and is co-chair of the Gun Violence Prevention Caucus. A big reason, he said, is the political influence of gun rights organizations.

“Part of the problem is that the [Virginia] Citizens Defense League and the NRA have a stranglehold on the votes of the Republicans,” Ebbin said.

League President Philip Van Cleave, whose organization prides itself on taking stronger positions than the NRA, defended his group’s record.

“Gun control does not save lives. It endangers innocent life by making it harder for good people to defend themselves,” Van Cleave said in an email. “The GOP leadership understands that basic truth.”

Van Cleave said his group opposes all magazine restrictions, such as the 10-round limit proposed by Ebbin’s bill. “D.C. has those 10-round restrictions and eight times the murder rate of Northern Virginia, which has no limits on magazine size,” he said.

The NRA did not respond to requests for comment. It typically maintains a low profile in the days immediately after a highly publicized shooting incident...
 
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