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Ongoing gun violence/injury thread

CarlSpackler88 said:
Wow that's pretty staggering but gun nuts don't care about deaths. They want to shoot guns.
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As some of this debate has gone on, it's begun to seem that these people aren't just about protecting themselves...they're fantasizing about blowing away a few intruders, or the government giving them a reason to fight them. Basically, they're not thinking "In case X happens." They're hoping X happens.
 
Agreed. You'd think more of them would serve in our armed forces.
 
Deadbolt said:
As some of this debate has gone on, it's begun to seem that these people aren't just about protecting themselves...they're fantasizing about blowing away a few intruders, or the government giving them a reason to fight them. Basically, they're not thinking "In case X happens." They're hoping X happens.
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Exactly. They truly believe their guns are needed to defend America and the rights of the people. It's delusional.
 
http://www.twincities.com/crime/ci_22450039/st-paul-man-pointed-ak-47-at-daughter

A St. Paul man pointed an AK-47 rifle at his teenage daughter in a dispute over her getting two B's instead of straight A's, according to a criminal complaint filed Friday, Jan 25.


The Ramsey County attorney's office charged Kirill Bartashevitch, 51, of St. Paul with two counts of terroristic threats, one against the girl and the other against her mother. Bartashevitch is a Minneapolis Public Schools employee. The complaint gives this account:


Police were called to a school on Jan. 17 after a school social worker received a report from a parent who said she'd been monitoring her son's electronic communications and saw a message to her son. In the message, Bartashevitch's daughter said her father had pointed a rifle at her.


The social worker interviewed the girl. She said it happened Jan. 13 at the family's Hamline-Midway home in the 1700 block of Englewood Avenue, when she and Bartashevitch were arguing about her grades. The teen swore at her father and said she "hated" him, the complaint said.


Bartashevitch grabbed his new AK-47 -- he'd recently bought it because he feared such weapons would soon be banned -- and pointed it at the girl. The girl said her mother jumped between them while Bartashevitch was pointing the gun. Bartashevitch ordered the girl to go to her room, which she did.
 
TWDeac said:
http://www.twincities.com/crime/ci_22450039/st-paul-man-pointed-ak-47-at-daughter

A St. Paul man pointed an AK-47 rifle at his teenage daughter in a dispute over her getting two B's instead of straight A's, according to a criminal complaint filed Friday, Jan 25.


The Ramsey County attorney's office charged Kirill Bartashevitch, 51, of St. Paul with two counts of terroristic threats, one against the girl and the other against her mother. Bartashevitch is a Minneapolis Public Schools employee. The complaint gives this account:


Police were called to a school on Jan. 17 after a school social worker received a report from a parent who said she'd been monitoring her son's electronic communications and saw a message to her son. In the message, Bartashevitch's daughter said her father had pointed a rifle at her.


The social worker interviewed the girl. She said it happened Jan. 13 at the family's Hamline-Midway home in the 1700 block of Englewood Avenue, when she and Bartashevitch were arguing about her grades. The teen swore at her father and said she "hated" him, the complaint said.


Bartashevitch grabbed his new AK-47 -- he'd recently bought it because he feared such weapons would soon be banned -- and pointed it at the girl. The girl said her mother jumped between them while Bartashevitch was pointing the gun. Bartashevitch ordered the girl to go to her room, which she did.
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Tic, tic, tic, tic....
 
KickballDeac said:
This link is a few weeks old but I don't recall seeing it posted. A week after Sandy Hook, PBS commentator Mark Shields said on-air that more Americans have been killed by domestic gun incidents since 1968 than have been killed in all U.S. wars, ever. He wasn't exaggerating.

Gunfire deaths:

1968 to 1980 377,000
1981 to 1998 620,525
1999 to 2010 364,483
2011 32,163
Total 1,384,171


War deaths:

Revolutionary War
4,435​
War of 1812
2,260​
Mexican War
13,283​
Civil War (Union and Confederate, estimated)
525,000​
Spanish-American War
2,446​
World War I
116,516​
World War II
405,399​
Korean War
36,574​
Vietnam War
58,220​
Persian Gulf War
383​
Afghanistan War
2,175​
Iraq War
4,486​
Total
1,171,177
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...mmentator-mark-shields-says-more-killed-guns/
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I wonder how many of those Civil War and WWI deaths were actually from combat and how many were from disease? Makes the numbers that much worse.
 
Mother, boyfriend face charges after 4-year-old shoots herself

By Cleve R. Wootson Jr. and April Bethea
cwootson@charlotteobserver.com
Posted: Tuesday, Feb. 12, 2013


Charlotte-Mecklenburg police say a 4-year-old girl shot herself Monday evening after finding a gun in her mother’s bedroom at an uptown Charlotte townhome.

The girl’s mother, 36-year-old Marsharier Littlejohn, and the woman’s boyfriend, 30-year-old Leandre Budden, now face charges of failure to store a firearm to protect minors, police said Tuesday.

Police said the handgun was in the couple’s bedroom.

Detectives had not yet served the warrant on Budden early Tuesday, police said.

The 4-year-old girl was back at home Tuesday morning after being treated at the hospital overnight.

Police said the shooting happened about 6 p.m. in the 400 block of North Davidson Street. Officers were called to Presbyterian Hospital after a caller “stated that they have a child in the (emergency room) that has suffered from an apparent gunshot wound,” according to a statement from police.

That started a two-pronged police investigation. Officers went to the hospital and conducted interviews there. Meanwhile, detectives went to the child’s home to investigate.

Late Monday, investigators canvassed the neighborhood, a mixed income complex of apartments and townhomes near First Ward Elementary School and just a few blocks from Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police headquarters.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/20...injured-in-uptown-shooting.html#storylink=cpy
 
^ People like this need to be made an example of. There should be zero tolerance for this sort of thing. If you can't figure out how to store a gun so your four year old can't hurt herself, you don't need to have a firearm.
 
Deadbolt said:
^ People like this need to be made an example of. There should be zero tolerance for this sort of thing. If you can't figure out how to store a gun so your four year old can't hurt herself, you don't need to have a firearm.
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Exactly. Should be a mandatory minimum sentence.
 
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