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  1. #7161
    You don't need to worry. Jesus will protect you.

    "What if gun reform is jesus trying to protect us?"

    Well he can f right the f off. The 2nd amendment was god's will trying to protect us from government overreach.

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    I mean, likely trolling but we have people on the Mt Tabor chat saying they'd love marines being able to have automatic weapons.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...cluding-a-baby

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    At some point, we need to have a conversation about active duty and veterans who are mass shooters and commit domestic violence in the US with the training we pay for.

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    Maybe ending 20 year wars will mean fewer people will suffer from ptsd.

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    Biden Will Withdraw His Nominee To Lead The ATF

    Appears Democrats need a real (functional) majority if anything is going to get done.
    I love mankind...it’s people I can’t stand!!

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    Biden Will Withdraw His Nominee To Lead The ATF

    Appears Democrats need a real (functional) majority if anything is going to get done.
    The result leaves the ATF without a Senate-confirmed boss yet again. The agency hasn't had a confirmed director in six years. It's had only one since Congress made the position Senate approved in 2006.
    I wonder why.

    The struggle to get a confirmed director on the books over the years has been due in large part to opposition from gun rights groups like the National Rifle Association.
    Oh.

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    Gots t' pertect the rights o' them responsible gun owners!!!

    That's the most important thing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bym051d View Post
    I wonder why.



    Oh.
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    Ex-Marine Killed Family Because ‘God Told Him’ to Save Imaginary Child

    Bryan Riley, 33, who confessed to killing four (including a baby) and torturing a young girl in Lakeland, Florida, told police he believed he was saving a child that was being sexually trafficked by the family.
    https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3d9...ida-conspiracy

    This is particularly disturbing, but it's also weirdly typical.
    A man who slaughtered four people from the same family and tortured an 11-year-old girl by shooting her seven times was in the midst of a delusion about sex trafficking, police say.

    Bryan Riley, 33, a marine veteran, confessed to killing 40-year-old Justice Gleason; his partner, Theresa Lanham, 33; their 3-month-old son; and Lanham’s 62-year-old mother, Cathy Delgado, in their Lakeland, Florida, home early Sunday morning, said the Polk County Sheriff Department. Police say Riley confessed to staking out the home of the people he had no prior relationship with, then entered it a few hours later in full body armour with multiple firearms. According to Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd, while he was in the home Riley was looking for “Amber,” a girl he believed was being sex trafficked out of the home.
    “This is all fiction, all made up by him,” Judd told reporters on Thursday. “Understand when we make those references, there were no victims of sex crimes in that house.”

    Riley told police he first entered a smaller home on the property, occupied by Delgado, and upon finding her, shot an entire magazine of ammunition into her.

    Riley told police he then entered the main house, killed the family dog, and went to the bathroom door, which Gleason was trying to hold shut. Police said Riley admitted to shooting through the door until he could get it open. He then entered the washroom and found Gleason, Lanham, who was holding their baby in her arms, and their 11-year-old daughter huddled together. Riley said he then shot and killed the couple and the baby.

    “That’s when he grabbed the 11-year-old victim, took her from the bathroom into the living room. And he asks her, ‘Where’s Amber?’” explained Judd. “She said, ‘I’m not Amber. There is no Amber.’ And he said, ‘I want to know who Amber is,’ and he counted down, ‘3, 2, 1,’ pow—and he shot her.”

    “This evil human being told us, ‘I tortured her in order to investigate and to find Amber,’” Judd said.

    Riley continued to shoot at the girl when she wouldn’t give a satisfactory answer, telling police he believed she was also involved with sex trafficking and God told him it was OK to shoot her.

    After being shot seven times, police said the girl played dead, and Riley moved on. Miraculously she survived.



    The evening before the early morning killings, Riley was planning on going and helping out with Hurricane Ida, so went to a friend’s place on Saturday to borrow a first-aid kit. The friend lived near Gleason, who was mowing his lawn at the time Riley was grabbing the kit. Judd said Riley approached Gleason and asked him where “Amber” was because God told him she was going to commit suicide.
    Witnesses said Gleason and Delgado told Riley that there was no Amber there and that they didn’t know what he was talking about. Eventually, Gleason and his mother-in-law told Riley to leave or they would call the cops, and he did.
    ...
    Riley’s girlfriend, who has been with him for four years, told police a week earlier he left to go work security at a church and came back with an”infatuation about being able to speak directly to God, and God talk directly back.”
    Upon getting back to his home after his interaction with Gleason and Delgado, Riley got into an argument with his significant other, who told him God doesn’t talk to him. That evening he left the home at around 1 a.m. with a large shoulder bag, and began reconnaissance on the house. He entered the home and began his killing spree around 4:45 a.m..
    Riley was experienced with weapons and tactical planning. Judd said the 33-year-old “had four years in the Marines, three years in the reserves, a trip to Afghanistan and Iraq. He worked in executive and private security and was well thought of and was well-trained. He has 16 separate certificates and security and tactical training.”
    His training came through in his planning and executing of the massacre, which included staking out the home, repositioning his car three times to allow for the quickest exit, slashing the tires on the vehicles so his victims couldn’t escape, and leaving glow sticks to aid him while fleeing.



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    https://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-r...ry?id=80195376

    1 dead, 14 hurt in shooting at Kroger grocery store near Memphis: Police

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    Quote Originally Posted by deaconson View Post
    Maybe ending 20 year wars will mean fewer people will suffer from ptsd.
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deaconson View Post
    Maybe ending 20 year wars will mean fewer people will suffer from ptsd.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wakefan77 View Post
    This.
    How about PTSD being a disqualifier for gun ownership?

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    Sure. After an appropriate evaluation it may well be disqualifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid Karma View Post
    How about PTSD being a disqualifier for gun ownership?
    I am a huge proponent of gun control measures, but I don't think using medical diagnoses as way to decide who can purchase a gun is a good approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafi View Post
    I am a huge proponent of gun control measures, but I don't think using medical diagnoses as way to decide who can purchase a gun is a good approach.
    why not

  16. #7176
    For one, seems like it would cause people who need mental health visits to skip them so that they can avoid a PTSD diagnosis and buy a gun.

  17. #7177
    Also, ptsd does not present the same for everyone. Some people would not be a danger to self or others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheCaptain View Post
    why not
    Many reasons:

    -I think we should avoid stigmatizing mental health issues as much as we can
    -We want people to get treated, not to hide their diagnoses
    -There isn't good data to guide which diagnoses would be included. Perhaps those with terminal cancer, or ALS, are more likely to use a gun than those with PTSD?
    -Diagnoses are dynamic. What if someone with depression is excluded from buying a gun, but "treated depression" is not? How is that defined? If you miss one dose of an SSRI is it no longer "treated?" I think this would be impossible to legislate and regulate.
    -There are many other areas where gun regulation should focus. The US has similar rates of depression, schizophrenia, etc to other countries, but our gun violence rates are off the charts. The problem is the massive number of guns, not an excess of mental health issues.

  19. #7179
    What a maroon.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/01/us/al...ses/index.html

    (CNN)Alex Jones, the conspiracy theorist who hosts the right-wing commentary website Infowars, was found legally responsible in two lawsuits for damages caused by his claims surrounding the 2012 Sandy Hook school mass shooting, according to court documents released Thursday.

    Judge Maya Guerra Gamble issued default judgments on Monday against Jones and his outlet for not complying with court orders to provide information for the lawsuits brought against him by the parents of two children killed in the shooting.

    The rulings, which were first reported by the Huffington Post, effectively mean that Jones lost the cases by default. A jury will convene to ascertain how much he will owe the plaintiffs, the report said.

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