Ongoing gun violence/injury thread

[Demonwolverine]

yeah that statement was not well-thought out on my part. but, is the 2nd Amendment the worst thing America still has in place?

But without guns, then how will we fight back when the government, aka the over-militarized police who we also support and know they would never hurt or attack us but for some reason will try to take our guns and then now only the good guys have guns, but they're not all good guys because there are a few bad apples and its really not guns that kill people it's the people with the guns and you could do the same thing with a box cutter and...and...

[redwing42]

Saw a truck with a bunch of Trump stickers on it this past weekend in NoVa. Had one that said "Guns save lives," and I tried for a second to figure out the mental gymnastics it takes to reconcile that with the ever-present "Guns don't kill people" stance by the NRA. I understand that there is no actual thought that goes into this topic for most people (especially the ones with bumper stickers), but it still makes me shake my head sometimes.

[JuiceCrewAllStar]

acknowledging the mocking tone here, but there is -- in addition to your stereotypical NRA member -- a long tradition of gun ownership and self-defense from the Black Power and adjacent movements where gun ownership and their use of powerful imagery with guns was a big piece of the advancement of the Civil Rights Movement

additionally, the loudest advocates of conceal carry licenses and gun ownership are black, with a few rural south hunter types mixed in

I'm anti-gun, but I do think some of the caricatures of gun control as simply a redneck/MAGA vs. the world issue lack the nuance that the debate deserves and doesn't really get at why many people feel the need to get a gun in the first place

and many of these types of posts -- here or elsewhere -- seem to take for granted that the police/military should or will always have the capacity to level its populace in no time and don't want to take the debate to that piece of the gun control dilemma

[deaconson]

Can this f ing judge be canceled?

[Demonwolverine]

Happened earlier in the month, but seems pertinent now that Governor Bill Lee has it as "one of his top priorities for 2021".

Tennessee Bill to Remove Gun Permits Advances in TN Legislature

[ConnorEl]

Opinion: How to Reduce Shootings


Probably requires NYT subscription. But Kristof makes a good case for how to think about this, IMO. At least given who/where we are.

[RJKarl]

Here's a way to reduce shootings:

[ConnorEl]

yeah that statement was not well-thought out on my part. but, is the 2nd Amendment the worst thing America still has in place?

Debatable.


The electoral college, the senate, all up there in terms of unfortunate things we seem stuck with.

[BiffTannen]

Anybody else notice that the SWAT team apprehended this piece of shit without killing him and no social workers appeared to be involved.

[deaconson]

Anybody else notice that the SWAT team apprehended this piece of shit without killing him and no social workers appeared to be involved.

Things that make YOU go hmmmm but col anus goes "and?"

[WakeForestRanger]

[Demonwolverine]

Sad that A Shooting in California doesn't even get this thread bumped anymore.

My wife is currently at a "Criminal Justice Panel" here in Nashville, TN, and someone just asked the chief of police what he thinks about Tennessee's recently passed Permit-less carry law and he said "I hate it. It's going to end in tragedy."

I have never understood why any police officer wouldn't be for having as few guns on the streets as possible. Can someone please explain this to me? Is it just pure political optics in that the police being against guns makes it look like a government run organization is going to take your guns?

[warak]

Sad that A Shooting in California doesn't even get this thread bumped anymore.

My wife is currently at a "Criminal Justice Panel" here in Nashville, TN, and someone just asked the chief of police what he thinks about Tennessee's recently passed Permit-less carry law and he said "I hate it. It's going to end in tragedy."

I have never understood why any police officer wouldn't be for having as few guns on the streets as possible. Can someone please explain this to me? Is it just pure political optics in that the police being against guns makes it look like a government run organization is going to take your guns?

as someone that lives in Nashville...Nashville usually thinks opposite of the rest of the state, maybe save Memphis.

[WakeForestRanger]

[deaconson]

Taking a page out of the trump GQP playbook.

[wakephan09]

Taking a page out of the trump GQP playbook.

Except for this dude is a long-time ATF veteran

[Liquid Karma]

That confirmation hearing should be fun.

[Deacon923]

Former NFL player shoots and kills a doctor, doctor's wife, 2 grandchildren, and random guy working on the property. https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/ne...1-c88a15351bca Shooter's dad says "football messed him up".

[ConnorEl]

Damn

[DeacHead]

You know how Wayne Lapierre is a piece of shit? He's actually a bigger piece of shit.

There's more if you dig into the NRA bankruptcy trial going on now.