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Thread: Ongoing gun violence/injury thread

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    It's almost as though it may not be JUST guns or JUST people, but the intersection of a person having a moment of weakness and just so happens to be carrying a gun because they're everywhere.

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    Not sure if this one falls under the democratic cities are a hellhole of violence or that there's too many guns out there

    Woman walking with baby stroller shot to death in NYC

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/woman-walk...023544639.html

    MELISSA GAFFNEY
    Wed, June 29, 2022, 8:10 PM
    A 20-year-old woman was shot to death while pushing a 3-month-old baby in a stroller on New York City's Upper East Side on Wednesday night, police said.

    The unidentified woman was pushing a baby stroller on Lexington Avenue and East 95th Street around 8:25 p.m. when a man wearing a black hooded sweatshirt came up from behind and shot her in the head, ABC News New York station WABC reported.

    An unknown person approached her and fired a single shot at close range, police said. The suspect fled immediately afterward on foot, traveling east along East 95th Street, according to the NYPD. He was last seen wearing a hooded sweatshirt and sweatpants, in all black.
    just drivin' round in John Voight's car

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    Homicide Deaths Among Adult Cohabitants of Handgun Owners in California, 2004 to 2016


    Abstract

    Background:

    Although personal protection is a major motivation for purchasing firearms, existing studies suggest that people living in homes with firearms have higher risks for dying by homicide. Distribution of those risks among household members is poorly understood.

    Objective:

    To estimate the association between living with a lawful handgun owner and risk for homicide victimization.

    Design:

    This retrospective cohort study followed 17.6 million adult residents of California for up to 12 years 2 months (18 October 2004 through 31 December 2016). Cohort members did not own handguns, but some started residing with lawful handgun owners during follow-up.

    Setting:

    California.

    Participants:

    17 569 096 voter registrants aged 21 years or older.

    Measurements:

    Homicide (overall, by firearm, and by other methods) and homicide occurring in the victim's home.

    Results:

    Of 595 448 cohort members who commenced residing with handgun owners, two thirds were women. A total of 737 012 cohort members died; 2293 died by homicide. Overall rates of homicide were more than twice as high among cohabitants of handgun owners than among cohabitants of nonowners (adjusted hazard ratio, 2.33 [95% CI, 1.78 to 3.05]). These elevated rates were driven largely by higher rates of homicide by firearm (adjusted hazard ratio, 2.83 [CI, 2.05 to 3.91]). Among homicides occurring at home, cohabitants of owners had sevenfold higher rates of being fatally shot by a spouse or intimate partner (adjusted hazard ratio, 7.16 [CI, 4.04 to 12.69]); 84% of these victims were female.

    Limitations:

    Some cohort members classified as unexposed may have lived in homes with handguns. Residents of homes with and without handguns may have differed on unobserved traits associated with homicide risk.

    Conclusion:

    Living with a handgun owner is associated with substantially elevated risk for dying by homicide. Women are disproportionately affected.
    I love mankind...itís people I canít stand!!

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    This was published in the Annals of Internal Medicine. They looked at 17 million adults in CA over 12 years. If someone lived with a handgun owner, they we 2-3 times more likely to be murdered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WakeForestRanger View Post
    How long does it take for something like this to make its way to SCOTUS between all the appeals courts and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarcaDeac View Post
    How long does it take for something like this to make its way to SCOTUS between all the appeals courts and such.
    Itís up to NY for it not to matter. Is Scaliaís ghost going to prevent them from enforcing the law?

    Hell what would President Trump do? Bring in the National Guard to usher gun nuts into private businesses?

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    Short sighted idiotic death cult.

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    what is the value of this law?

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    Ongoing gun violence/injury thread

    That does not seem like a law that most law enforcement would support. (The good cops, anyway.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarcaDeac View Post
    How long does it take for something like this to make its way to SCOTUS between all the appeals courts and such.
    Years. This is exactly the right strategy to employ, and basically what the anti abortion crowd did for years. Pass a law thatís contrary to current precedent, and ask the court to uphold the law anyway. When itís struck down, change the law slightly and pass a new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheCaptain View Post
    what is the value of this law?
    Stated value? Extreme gun rights.

    Actual value? Legal intimidation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WakeForestRanger View Post
    Iíve said it before: everyone is a ďgood guy with a gunĒ until they kill someone.

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    Have some friends who live there. One was there with wife and two small kids. Was a block away and said he heard 3 rounds from a semi automatic and knew it was gun shots right away. People were running towards him and they ran. All safe, thankfully.

    Nothing more American than this.

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    I'm sure they were just firing in the air in honor of #murrica and missed the sky

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    If this was the 247th season premiere of the scripted drama The United States, people would think a mass shooting at a July 4 parade in a Chicago suburb was too on the nose and the writers have lost a step.

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    Just the most tone deaf, awful people


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