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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ike-obamacare/

    "Republicans had a plan to replace Obamacare. It looked a lot like Obamacare."

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    http://www.contracostatimes.com/news...s-will-be-part

    "CONCORD -- Earlier this year, Contra Costa County won the right to run a health care call center, where workers will answer questions to help implement the president's Affordable Care Act. Area politicians called the 200-plus jobs it would bring to the region an economic coup.

    Now, with two months to go before the Concord operation opens to serve the public, information has surfaced that about half the jobs are part-time, with no health benefits -- a stinging disappointment to workers and local politicians who believed the positions would be full-time."

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFFaithful View Post
    http://www.contracostatimes.com/news...s-will-be-part

    "CONCORD -- Earlier this year, Contra Costa County won the right to run a health care call center, where workers will answer questions to help implement the president's Affordable Care Act. Area politicians called the 200-plus jobs it would bring to the region an economic coup.

    Now, with two months to go before the Concord operation opens to serve the public, information has surfaced that about half the jobs are part-time, with no health benefits -- a stinging disappointment to workers and local politicians who believed the positions would be full-time."
    "What's really ironic is working for a call center and trying to help people get health care, but we can't afford it ourselves," said the worker, who asked for anonymity out of fear of losing the job"

    Amazing

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    Welcome to the world of part time jobs. It is going to be the new norm under ACA. Two full time workers (80 hours) is going to cost more than three part time guys (87 hours combined). Why would businesses pay more money for less production?

    Interesting article I read on the disincentives of the part time section if ACA. Pretty compelling numbers and shows some of the underlying flawed numbers of ACA.


    http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ontinued/?_r=0

    We are going to have an economy of dual part time jobs which is going to wreak havoc on the already difficult family lives of the middle and lower income citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrangor View Post
    Welcome to the world of part time jobs. It is going to be the new norm under ACA. Two full time workers (80 hours) is going to cost more than three part time guys (87 hours combined). Why would businesses pay more money for less production?

    Interesting article I read on the disincentives of the part time section if ACA. Pretty compelling numbers and shows some of the underlying flawed numbers of ACA.




    http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ontinued/?_r=0

    We are going to have an economy of dual part time jobs which is going to wreak havoc on the already difficult family lives of the middle and lower income citizens.
    The ACA is a scapegoat for employers to increase their bottom line by shedding the expenses of humans vs. computers that they have been waiting to do for years. It's capitalism. It makes sense.

    Now are mercenary part-time workers as productive as full-time employees with some skin in the game is a different question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ONW View Post
    The ACA is a scapegoat for employers to increase their bottom line by shedding the expenses of humans vs. computers that they have been waiting to do for years. It's capitalism. It makes sense.

    Now are mercenary part-time workers as productive as full-time employees with some skin in the game is a different question.
    Go on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ONW View Post
    The ACA is a scapegoat for employers to increase their bottom line by shedding the expenses of humans vs. computers that they have been waiting to do for years. It's capitalism. It makes sense.

    Now are mercenary part-time workers as productive as full-time employees with some skin in the game is a different question.
    What exactly has kept them from doing it sooner?

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    Blog from health economist David Dranove, probably the best professor I've ever had. He doesn't update often but it's a great read spanning different topics on healthcare reform:

    http://dranove.wordpress.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrangor View Post
    Welcome to the world of part time jobs. It is going to be the new norm under ACA. Two full time workers (80 hours) is going to cost more than three part time guys (87 hours combined). Why would businesses pay more money for less production?

    Interesting article I read on the disincentives of the part time section if ACA. Pretty compelling numbers and shows some of the underlying flawed numbers of ACA.


    http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ontinued/?_r=0

    We are going to have an economy of dual part time jobs which is going to wreak havoc on the already difficult family lives of the middle and lower income citizens.
    Maybe because most intelligent employers understand the high cost of employee training and turnover. If someone is only getting 29 hours of work with no benefits, he will always be looking a new full time job unless you pay him enough to make up for the difference.

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    Well, there aren't enough full time jobs available. http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamo...han-you-think/

    "...the “official” unemployment rate doesn’t count men and women like G. — discouraged workers who have settled for part-time jobs or have given up looking altogether. Tracking those individuals, under what’s called the “U-6″ rate, gives a very different measure of the nation’s unemployment rate: 14.3%..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 09deaconX View Post
    What exactly has kept them from doing it sooner?
    Blowback and technological advances
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhmd2000 View Post
    Go on...
    What's the question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ONW View Post
    What's the question?
    It's just nice to see some of the wisdom sinking in....

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    I'm pragmatic, not na´ve and stupid.

    Actually, in hindsight I am na´ve and stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ONW View Post
    I'm pragmatic, not na´ve and stupid.

    Actually, in hindsight I am na´ve and stupid.

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    Nearly 10,000 Doctors Opted Out Of Medicare Last Year.
    The Wall Street Journal (7/29, A1, Beck, Subscription Publication, 2.29M), in a front-page article titled, “More Doctors Steer Clear Of Medicare,” reports that ahead of the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, more doctors are opting out of Medicare, or limiting the amount of patients using Medicare that they see. According to the Journal, CMS figures show that nearly 10,000 doctors opted out of Medicare in 2012 as compared to 3,700 in 2009. The Journal notes that there are still 685,000 doctors who treat Medicare patients, but more than a third of primary care doctors are not

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    Howard Dean on the ACA
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...498014414.html
    "One major problem is the so-called Independent Payment Advisory Board. The IPAB is essentially a health-care rationing body. By setting doctor reimbursement rates for Medicare and determining which procedures and drugs will be covered and at what price, the IPAB will be able to stop certain treatments its members do not favor by simply setting rates to levels where no doctor or hospital will perform them.

    There does have to be control of costs in our health-care system. However, rate setting—the essential mechanism of the IPAB—has a 40-year track record of failure. What ends up happening in these schemes (which many states including my home state of Vermont have implemented with virtually no long-term effect on costs) is that patients and physicians get aggravated because bureaucrats in either the private or public sector are making medical decisions without knowing the patients. Most important, once again, these kinds of schemes do not control costs. The medical system simply becomes more bureaucratic."

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    Nearly 10,000 Doctors Opted Out Of Medicare Last Year.
    The Wall Street Journal (7/29, A1, Beck, Subscription Publication, 2.29M), in a front-page article titled, “More Doctors Steer Clear Of Medicare,” reports that ahead of the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, more doctors are opting out of Medicare, or limiting the amount of patients using Medicare that they see. According to the Journal, CMS figures show that nearly 10,000 doctors opted out of Medicare in 2012 as compared to 3,700 in 2009. The Journal notes that there are still 685,000 doctors who treat Medicare patients, but more than a third of primary care doctors are not
    Old people dying faster. What's the problem?
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ance-coverage/

    "Obamacare’s price tag has just gone up by $12 billion, due to the White House’s decision to delay the employer mandate until 2015. The vast majority of that increase ($10 billion) reflects a reduction in the penalties that the government would have collected from employers who did not comply with the requirement to provide health insurance."

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