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When Did National Parks Become Important?

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Whoa, Whoa, Whoa now people. The party of "drill baby drill" and "who gives a shit about the environment and/or some endangered species" now cares about national parks remaining open to the people so the evil socialist overlord does not destroy America?

And these same people are screaming for lower taxes yet demanding a service funded by taxes from state and national governments remain functional?

Can't wait for Sarah Palin to come out and beg the US government to preserve ANWR instead of gutting it and saving America...
 
Their ideal situation would be to have a national park that has fracking, a shooting range, a veterans monument and a McDonald's instead of a waterfall. Security would be provided by Blackwater's successor.
 
Also fully funded the WIC program which was thoroughly characterized as creating a lazy moocher class that avoids getting jobs.
 
WFFaithful said:
Also fully funded the WIC program which was thoroughly characterized as creating a lazy moocher class that avoids getting jobs.
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Forgot that bit
 
The answer to the original post is - when they could blame something from a national park on Obama.
 
ONW said:
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa now people. The party of "drill baby drill" and "who gives a shit about the environment and/or some endangered species" now cares about national parks remaining open to the people so the evil socialist overlord does not destroy America?

And these same people are screaming for lower taxes yet demanding a service funded by taxes from state and national governments remain functional?

Can't wait for Sarah Palin to come out and beg the US government to preserve ANWR instead of gutting it and saving America...
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This coming from a welfare-check cashing, food stamp using, "disabled" dead beat, poor.
 
I think the real question is why is the time and energy being taken by obviously non-furloughed NPS to close publicly open monuments? There is no reason to close off views of Mt. Rushmore or some of the monuments or any of the privately run hotels or businesses. Somebody is directing that they do so. Why?
 
Liability for what? That's a stretch to say the least. The feds enjoy broad immunity from lawsuits.
 
See this:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...ign=nprnews&utm_source=npr&utm_medium=twitter

A county in Utah wants to re-open some national park land, and they need a big mobilization effort (and financial help from the state) in order to get this wide open space open for people. Shit like National Parks don't just happen by the government saying "Hey, people can go here and look at stuff." It takes a lot of staff and money and time.
 
I can't believe how ignorant people are about how tourist attractions work. Yes, people work there. If the people don't work there, you can't visit.
 
The Park Service has the responsibility of protecting these places and since there is only skeleton staff working without pay the best way to do that is by shutting them down. Yes, that includes public monuments. There is a set procedure in place for how to do that predates the Obama administration. Those plans go into effect automatically and do not require whoever the current administration happens to be to issue orders about specific sites.

Those "private" hotels and businesses are government concessions that have language in their contracts that specifically state that they are to close during government shut downs. The people at Lake Mead that have "been kicked out of their homes" also have contracts that state their home there cannot be their primary residence and that in the event of a government shutdown they can be asked to leave these vacation homes.

So there are a variety of reasons why these shut downs are taking place but they mostly center around lack of staff to protect them and operate them safely for the visitors.

The Republicans are trying to shift the blame for these closures that are a direct result of their shut down of the government to the NPS for implementing that shut down. This political game they are playing is going to result in making the situation dangerous for those involved. The Parks are already getting threats of violence from the public over this. Not to mention, the danger the public is putting themselves in by accessing closed areas. If they get lost or injured, the response from those few unpaid Rangers still duty will severely hampered.
 
EatLeadCommie said:
Liability for what? That's a stretch to say the least. The feds enjoy broad immunity from lawsuits.
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You are right. Legal liability is a stretch...but the President's conspiracy to intentionally shut national parks to give Fox News something to moan about is Occam's Razor...
 
WakeForestRanger said:
The Park Service has the responsibility of protecting these places and since there is only skeleton staff working without pay the best way to do that is by shutting them down. Yes, that includes public monuments. There is a set procedure in place for how to do that predates the Obama administration. Those plans go into effect automatically and do not require whoever the current administration happens to be to issue orders about specific sites.

Those "private" hotels and businesses are government concessions that have language in their contracts that specifically state that they are to close during government shut downs. The people at Lake Mead that have "been kicked out of their homes" also have contracts that state their home there cannot be their primary residence and that in the event of a government shutdown they can be asked to leave these vacation homes.

So there are a variety of reasons why these shut downs are taking place but they mostly center around lack of staff to protect them and operate them safely for the visitors.

The Republicans are trying to shift the blame for these closures that are a direct result of their shut down of the government to the NPS for implementing that shut down. This political game they are playing is going to result in making the situation dangerous for those involved. The Parks are already getting threats of violence from the public over this. Not to mention, the danger the public is putting themselves in by accessing closed areas. If they get lost or injured, the response from those few unpaid Rangers still duty will severely hampered.
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Or this...
 
WakeForestRanger said:
The Park Service has the responsibility of protecting these places and since there is only skeleton staff working without pay the best way to do that is by shutting them down. Yes, that includes public monuments. There is a set procedure in place for how to do that predates the Obama administration. Those plans go into effect automatically and do not require whoever the current administration happens to be to issue orders about specific sites.

Those "private" hotels and businesses are government concessions that have language in their contracts that specifically state that they are to close during government shut downs. The people at Lake Mead that have "been kicked out of their homes" also have contracts that state their home there cannot be their primary residence and that in the event of a government shutdown they can be asked to leave these vacation homes.

So there are a variety of reasons why these shut downs are taking place but they mostly center around lack of staff to protect them and operate them safely for the visitors.

The Republicans are trying to shift the blame for these closures that are a direct result of their shut down of the government to the NPS for implementing that shut down. This political game they are playing is going to result in making the situation dangerous for those involved. The Parks are already getting threats of violence from the public over this. Not to mention, the danger the public is putting themselves in by accessing closed areas. If they get lost or injured, the response from those few unpaid Rangers still duty will severely hampered.
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Seriously, all this. Allowing the public to roam around National Park land when there are very very few rangers on duty is an epically bad idea.
 
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