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    Is Net Neutrality Dead?

    Verizon and Comcast defeat FCC in court
    http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...#axzz2qUTQfUuU

    Did I Haas this? I was expecting more

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    Yeah we were discussing this on mehbe the cell phone thread yesterday.

    It's not dead yet. This just says that the FCC can't regulate them unless they want to classify Verizon as a common carrier (and all the regulations that entails). If Verizon decides to start actually enforcing non-neutral policies all the FCC has to do is classify them as a common carrier (and Verizon most definitely does not want that). That's the way I'm reading it anyway.

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    Some years back, the FCC classified internet services as "information services" and not "telecommunications services." FCC has a lot of regulatory authority over telecommunications services but not much (by design) over information services. The simple (but not easy) way for net neutrality to return is for the FCC to reclassify internet as telecommunications. The political will for this to happen would be tremendous. This "nuclear option" which the internet service companies DO NOT want will keep net neutrality a reality for a while. Unless Congress acts and does something else. Hearing on a new revision to the Telecommunications Act are underway, but in very early stages. The Supreme Court has yet to weigh in on the issue.

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    I feel like this ends with comcast charging me to watch netflix.

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    Or throttling (or outright blocking it) to make you watch their own online offering.

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    The debate against net neutrality is barely a debate. It does tell you who is in whose pockets. Nobody wants the internet to be more like cable tv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timdunkandthefunk View Post
    I feel like this ends with comcast charging me to watch netflix.

    The weird thing about Netflix is that they run through Amazon servers. Wouldn't a fight against Netflix actually mean a fight with Amazon?

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    That will be a very interesting conflict to watch. which companies end up on each of this issue.

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    I'm out of a job if net neutrality dies without caveats for online retailers.

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    I read that at peak Netflix takes down as much as 20% of AT&T s bandwidth. They pay nothing for this.nit is completely unfair. The US is unlike any other market in telecom. It would cost $100 to download Avatar to your IPAD in Hong Kong. This was not sustainable. Been in the wind for a while.

    Netflix is over as a business model now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diverdeac View Post
    I read that at peak Netflix takes down as much as 20% of AT&T s bandwidth. They pay nothing for this.nit is completely unfair. The US is unlike any other market in telecom. It would cost $100 to download Avatar to your IPAD in Hong Kong. This was not sustainable. Been in the wind for a while.

    Netflix is over as a business model now.
    lol

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    Netflix threatens ISP's that may charge them with consumer revolt.

    Probably a shot across the bow of TWC since they are famously shedding customers.

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    Even at 1cent per gigabyte this would wipe out Netflix profit

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    where does brazzers rank on the preferred bandwidth spectrum?

    asking for a friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by diverdeac View Post
    I read that at peak Netflix takes down as much as 20% of AT&T s bandwidth. They pay nothing for this.nit is completely unfair. The US is unlike any other market in telecom. It would cost $100 to download Avatar to your IPAD in Hong Kong. This was not sustainable. Been in the wind for a while.

    Netflix is over as a business model now.
    They pay nothing for it? How about the people who are paying AT&T so they can watch Netflix. It's not like they're donating their bandwidth

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    this is all tl;dr but will there still be free pr0n?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysteryMen View Post
    They pay nothing for it? How about the people who are paying AT&T so they can watch Netflix. It's not like they're donating their bandwidth
    We are the only country that does not charge for bandwidth. Unsustainable model.

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    Netflix and Comcast strike a deal

    This puts Netflix customers on the side of the Comcast-TWC merger, and signals an end to net neutrality. Why make this deal otherwise? Some say this is just giants cutting out middlemen, but is there more to it than that?

    Wired's take.

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    So this Michael Powell guy was the FCC Chairman in 2002, reclassified cable modems as 'information services' to limit the FCC's regulatory authority, and now he is one of the chief lobbyists for the cable TV industry (NCTA)? That's absurd. I know very little on this subject but it's hard to see how anyone other than Verizon and Comcast can be against net neutrality.

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    Is Net Neutrality Dead?

    Until the rules are re-written so that internet access is governed as a utility, the media giants are always going to get their way. Period.

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