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    Quote Originally Posted by Spot the Wonder View Post
    Oh, horseshit
    Nice retort.

    He has talked about police state, militarization of the police and racial inequality in the justice system for a very long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhmd2000 View Post
    I'm not equating. 15=/= 1. 1 is too many, but 15 is way, way too many.

    What are their names?
    Sweet dodge, La Fleur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhmd2000 View Post
    I'm not equating. 15=/= 1. 1 is too many, but 15 is way, way too many.

    What are their names?
    What is your argument? That we should ignore that Michael Brown was shot by a police officer, or that we should also have protests for the 15 victims in Chicago that can be violently broken up by police?

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    What is your argument? That we should ignore that Michael Brown was shot by a police officer, or that we should also have protests for the 15 victims in Chicago that can be violently broken up by police?
    I need a decoder ring to determine which shootings spark outrage. When does Rev Al touch down in Chicago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhmd2000 View Post
    I need a decoder ring to determine which shootings spark outrage. When does Rev Al touch down in Chicago?
    Would it outrage you if a police officer shot an unarmed 18 year old?

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    Said nothing in that article that he has not championed his whole political life.
    Not that I know much about Rand Paul, but this seems like a situation where you can spot the difference between the libertarians and the people who say they are libertarians but mean that they only want government money spent on the things they like.

    Liked the piece by Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconSig View Post
    Would it outrage you if a police officer shot an unarmed 18 year old?
    Almost as much as it would outrage me if political leadership and the media largely ignored a homicide epidemic in a major American city.

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    jhmd, this should be your moment of glory: when people aren't upset at the military for militarization. Heck, there've been all sorts of stories quoting veterans condemning the tactics in Ferguson.

    You're playing this all wrong. Take a victory lap around your desk or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhmd2000 View Post
    I need a decoder ring to determine which shootings spark outrage. When does Rev Al touch down in Chicago?
    You should keep a look out for violent acts and murders committed by public servants. People who are entrusted, even paid, to protect the public are naturally more scrutinized than ordinary citizens.
    Draxx them sklounst

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhmd2000 View Post
    I need a decoder ring to determine which shootings spark outrage. When does Rev Al touch down in Chicago?
    He held a prominent town hall meeting there in December according to my friends at Google.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatLeadCommie View Post
    Given the circumstances and violence surrounding the incident, the prudent thing to do is withhold his name for his safety and that of his family until the investigation is complete. It isn't unheard of to see this done. It's just that it is uncommon to see this kind of reaction to your run-of-the-mill shooting.

    And that he is a cop does make it a different circumstance. It is a shooting in the line of duty. The usual thing is suspension and relegation to desk work pending the outcome of the investigation. Shooting somebody is actually within the scope of his duty, which is why there is a process in place to address it and determine whether he acted outside the scope of his duties in using deadly force.
    Isn't that where most of the outrage is coming from - that a situation like this is becoming a "run of the mill" shooting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by avalon View Post
    Shocking how that works.

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    How what works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by myDeaconmyhand View Post
    You should keep a look out for violent acts and murders committed by public servants. People who are entrusted, even paid, to protect the public are naturally more scrutinized than ordinary citizens.
    Unless the President droning American citizens without due process. Yes we can, or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    How what works?
    When police officers don't act like military officers things tend to calm down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhmd2000 View Post
    Unless the President droning American citizens without due process. Yes we can, or something.
    Pretty sure we've discussed Obama's flying death robots extensively on these here ogboards.

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    Just so I don't forget, jhmd, what are their names?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhmd2000 View Post
    Almost as much as it would outrage me if political leadership and the media largely ignored a homicide epidemic in a major American city.
    Is there a homicide epidemic in Chicago (the major American city to which I assume you were referring)? Is the murder rate per capita there way above the rates of other American cities? Pretty sure that in 2012, Chicago's murder rate wasn't even in the top 20 in the country per capita. And there rate went down in 2013 and is on about the same level in 2014.

    But by all means, let's derail a thread discussing the reaction of people who are upset about a unarmed young man being shot, as well as the military-style "protective actions" that have been taking place over the last 4-5 days.

    Wouldn't this seem to be a good time for you to say "hey guys, you are right! This stuff is fucked up!" There is no law that says you have to take the opposite position on a thread. It's ok to agree.

    Or you can just try to pivot once again. Your call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    Just so I don't forget, jhmd, what are their names?
    Since opportunists can't grandstand and leverage their deaths for racial animosity, we will never know.

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