myDeaconmyhand
First man to get a team of horses up Bear Mountain
It's crazy how much leeway and trust a gun license carries with some of you. As if the badge was justification in itself.
It's crazy how much leeway and trust a gun license carries with some of you. As if the badge was justification in itself.
Whoever she is (she identified herself only as "Josie"), she's smart to call in anonymously. Considering what was done to the liquor store, she'd be dead by tomorrow.
This isn't a second amendment issue. Are you contending officers shouldn't have guns?
Whoever she is (she identified herself only as "Josie"), she's smart to call in anonymously. Considering what was done to the liquor store, she'd be dead by tomorrow.
oh we all know the answer
I think a lot of security and protection measures would change if there was an automatic 6 month jail sentence for any killing in self defense, or for deaths resulting from a stolen or sold firearm.
So if some maniac breaks into your house and tries to rape your women and murder everyone, and you kill him, you should go to prison?I would like for there to be legal consequences for killing someone in self defense, even for police officers.
I'd consider exceptions for protecting someone else, and home invasion cases. Killing an unarmed person in the street shouldn't be categorized the same as killing an armed person in your own house. I've never heard of an entire community protesting the death of a home invader.So if some maniac breaks into your house and tries to rape your women and murder everyone, and you kill him, you should go to prison?
I would like for there to be legal consequences for killing someone in self defense, even for police officers.
If this proceeds to trial she would almost certainly be called to testify as a defense witness, correct?
If they can figure out who it is, yes. I'd imagine she's seek witness protection long before that, though.
You do?
John Michael Hayes walked up to passing motorists, flagged down their cars and shot them at point blank rage with a shot gun. He was found not guilty by reason of insanity. There wasn't a question who the shooter was or who the aggressor was, but based on the insanity defense he is a free man today (he was released from his rehab facility a few years back).
Ditto for Wendell Williamson, the UNC campus shooter who had prepositioned ammunition around campus so when he went on his killing spree, he could reload. An Orange County jury acquitted him on the same grounds.
Those cases are deplorable legal outcomes.
I lack the omnipotence of many of the eyewitnesses to the Ferguson, MO killing that have been posting here with such frequency. I don't know what happened. Did the person who just robbed a convenience store 960 seconds before he was confronted by an LEO forget that he had just robbed a convenience store, or was his adrenaline still up at the time? I have no idea. Can't know. Will never know. Did he deserve to die? It certainly doesn't appear like it, but I wasn't there so I have no way of knowing what went on.
But if, as you say, there should be legal consequences for killing in self defense, what would you have the officer do? I assume there had to be some altercation, unless you want to produce evidence (or in the case of certain posters, manufacture out of thin air) evidence that the cop snuck up behind him and shot him in cold blood. If you're in a physical fight with someone who is better than you and you have a gun on your person, are you under a duty to pretend it isn't there? Wait for the bigger person to reach for it first? Only engage suspects who don't fight back?
Nobody wants this kid dead, so save the sanctimony. Your notion that people who act in self defense should still face consequences is either an emotional oversimplification or a fundamental misunderstanding of several million years of human behavior. I would agree with you if you were to say "aggressors" who eventually kill in self defense should face consequences, but shouldn't we wait to see who the aggressor is before passing judgment? Si or no?
Whoever she is (she identified herself only as "Josie"), she's smart to call in anonymously. Considering what was done to the liquor store, she'd be dead by tomorrow.
If you are struggling for a cop's gun or attacking him and you get shot, then the cop is doing his job. Some of you are completely whack.