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F is for Fascism (Ferguson MO)

The problem with the police reform positions is in 10 years from now we're all going to wish we were in the position we were 5 years ago. Maybe we wouldn't be there if it weren't for fox news, but this is the world we're in? Life with MHB as police commissioner no one wants to live in, and that's where we're headed with cell phone videos of every interaction and 20% annual declines in police forces and pensions at age 50. What kid these days in middle school decides he wants to be cop?

But one potential saving grace is automated carts eliminating the need for traffic interactions.
 
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You even edited that but it’s still pretty garbled. Is that like a “flaming globes” midnight stroke of genius?
 
[h=1]Women Prisoners Used as ‘Bait’ to Catch a Predator Were Allegedly Sexually Assaulted[/h]


The women were told to use a “code phrase” when they felt threatened. But help didn’t come in time.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kv...-a-predator-were-allegedly-sexually-assaulted

“Can we get some pizza?”
That was the code phrase in the sting operation to catch a former California correctional officer in the act after he was accused of sexual harassment and assault.
And two female prisoners at the California Institution for Women in Chino, located in San Bernardino County, were allegedly the bait.

But when they were attacked during the course of the 2017 operation, nobody came to their immediate aid, according to a federal lawsuit filed by the women in a U.S. District Court last week.

“This is very egregious given the fact that there was a man in charge of incarcerated women running around and sexually assaulting them,” Jennifer A. Bandlow, an attorney for the two inmates, told the Orange County Register, which first reported the lawsuit. “Then, in order to catch him, they (prison officials) allowed my clients to be again sexually assaulted.”

In August or September of 2017, Merrill would allegedly come and unlock the cell of a woman described only as “Jane Doe 2” a few times a week while working the night shift. He’d bring her food and tell her she was beautiful, according to the lawsuit—allegedly in an effort to groom her.

Then his behavior changed. He allegedly started grabbing his penis when he saw Jane Doe 2, although she’d try to pretend she was asleep to avoid him coming into her cell.
At one point, Merrill allegedly told Jane Doe 2 to touch his penis. Fearing retaliation or harm, she complied.
Later, under the weight of what the lawsuit described as “constant sexual harassment,” Jane Doe 2 overdosed on medication so she’d be moved to suicide watch and away from Merrill.
Then, around October 2017, when officers with the investigative services unit approached Jane Doe 2 to ask about the conduct of a different officer, she shared her allegations of sexual abuse and harassment by Merrill.
Officers with the investigative services and internal affairs units, including Spinney, “told Jane Doe 2 that she had to be part of a ‘set-up’ to catch Officer Merrill in the act,” according to the lawsuit. She was scared, but officers allegedly told her nothing would happen to her, that there’d be a camera and audio recording device in the room, and that she could say the code phrase if she felt threatened. She was also allegedly told to flirt with Merrill.
Around this time, after she was removed from suicide watch, Jane Doe 2 was placed in a cell with another woman, identified in the lawsuit only as “Jane Doe 3.” The women, terrified of Merrill, had begun to sleep in the same bed to feel safer.
One night, Merrill allegedly came into their cell repeatedly. One of the times, he grabbed Jane Doe 3, who didn’t know that Jane Doe 2 had worked with other officers to plant a recording device in the room.
Merrill digitally penetrated Jane Doe 3’s vagina against her will, according to the lawsuit.
Though Jane Doe 2 used the code phrase “Can we get some pizza?”, no one, including Spinney, came, according to the lawsuit.
Then, when Merrill allegedly attempted to push Jane Doe 2’s face down onto his penis and digitally penetrated her vagina, she again stated: “Can we get some pizza?” Still, nobody stopped the assault. (Spinney, when reached by VICE News, said he could not comment on active litigation.)
“Only after both women were sexually assaulted, and digitally penetrated, against their will and without their consent, did ISU and IA come to the room, place plastic bags over both of Officer Merrill’s hands, and remove him,” according to the lawsuit.
 
Speaking of inequality, tech companies that made statements of solidarity with Black Lives Matter had 20% fewer Black employees on average than those that didn't. The findings by Blendoor, which crunched data on 240 prominent firms, highlight a gap between what companies say and what they do. Still, their financial pledges surpassed $4.6 billion, more than double the amount from the previous six years combined.
 
Another day, another failure to charge in officer involved shooting. Sure would be nice to release that bodycam footage.
 
Hard to tell if he was shot twice while backing up or not (As was claimed). If he wasn't, I'm surprised they didn't shoot sooner. If he was, that seems early.
 
PSA: If the police order you to leave your vehicle, and you refuse, then you are considered in possession of a deadly weapon, and the cops can shoot you.

'murica
 
PSA: If the police order you to leave your vehicle, and you refuse, then you are considered in possession of a deadly weapon, and the cops can shoot you.

'murica


Pretty much.


The video I’ve seen strongly suggests Brown was just trying to get away, not to harm anyone. The DA pretty much said this.
 
The video I’ve seen strongly suggests Brown was just trying to get away, not to harm anyone. The DA pretty much said this.

What??? Actual statements from the DA below instead of interpretation on what the DA "pretty much said" from an unaffiliated independent:

District Attorney Andrew Womble said at a news conference that Brown used his car as a “deadly weapon,” causing Pasquotank County deputies to believe it was necessary to use deadly force. Womble, who acknowledged Brown wasn’t armed with guns or other weapons, said the deputies will face no criminal charges.

“Mr. Brown’s death, while tragic, was justified, because Mr. Brown’s actions caused three deputies with the Pasquotank County Sheriff’s Office to reasonably believe it was necessary to use deadly force to protect themselves and others,” Womble said.

Brown ignored deputies’ commands to stop and began to drive his car directly at one of the officers, Womble told a news conference. He said the first shot fired at Brown’s car went through the front windshield, not the back as was previously reported.

“I find that the facts of this case clearly illustrate the officers who used deadly force on Andrew Brown Jr. did so reasonably and only when a violent felon used a deadly weapon to put their lives in danger,” Womble said, referring to Brown’s car.

https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/announcement-expected-probe-nc-deputies-fatal-shooting-andrew-brown/QZD37OMPWBBNPIOQL4GDPHAPNU/
 
How many cops have been run over by cars and killed? Seems like its more a movie thing, and cops standing in front of a still vehicle that is then accelerating to flee have the very simple option of moving to the side of said car which in the first few seconds is traveling about the speed of a bicycle.
 
Asked if officers might not have simply let Brown go and arrested him at another time, rather than shooting him, Womble said that "they simply couldn't let him go."

"Law enforcement officers are duty bound," he said, and delivering the warrant "was their job on that particular day."

"Mr. Brown's response to that was to flee," Womble said.

The district attorney said he believes Brown's aim was to flee, not to injure the officers – but that if he was going to attempt to flee, he had no choice but to drive at the officers. Womble said he believes Brown fled because he did not want officers to find drugs he had in his possession, though he acknowledged he was speculating as to Brown's intentions.


Pretty much.
 
PSA: If the police order you to leave your vehicle, and you refuse, then you are considered in possession of a deadly weapon, and the cops can shoot you.

'murica

I think you may be missing an important fact here, but I can't quite put my finger on what it is.
 
How many cops have been run over by cars and killed? Seems like its more a movie thing, and cops standing in front of a still vehicle that is then accelerating to flee have the very simple option of moving to the side of said car which in the first few seconds is traveling about the speed of a bicycle.

https://www.officer.com/on-the-street/article/21120014/its-not-all-gunfights

In 2018 there were 106 law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty. Surprisingly, 55 died as a result of felonious actions, but almost the same number, 51, died in accidents. Of those 51 killed in accidents, the majority of them, 34, died in motor vehicle crashes (15 were not wearing seatbelts). That’s almost the number of officers shot to death in 2019! Those 34 driving deaths broke down as follows: 29 were operating cars, SUVs, trucks or vans, and 5 were operating ATVs or motorcycles. The remaining deaths of the 51 were as follows: 9 were pedestrian officers stuck by vehicles, 3 officers drowned, 2 died in firearm-related incidents, 1 officer fell while involved in a foot pursuit, 2 officers died when they were struck by a train.

So to answer the question looks like 9 cops in 2018 were struck and killed by cars, but assuming the majority of those came just as accidents while they worked roadways...... I'm gonna say it hardly ever happens, like it isn't even a thing.
 
Considering police consistently kill about 2x as many White people as Black people, I'm going to go with no on that one. Try again.

Did you know that there are about 5x as many white people as Black people?
 
How many cops have been run over by cars and killed? Seems like its more a movie thing, and cops standing in front of a still vehicle that is then accelerating to flee have the very simple option of moving to the side of said car which in the first few seconds is traveling about the speed of a bicycle.

No cop has ever died by getting shot by a bazooka so if someone whips out a bazooka and aims it at a cop the cop shouldn't be permitted to shoot the person aiming the bazooka at him because no cops die by getting shot by a bazooka. The logic is unassailable.
 
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