ConnorEl
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Chicago police pop off on guy filming them at gas station: https://blockclubchicago.org/2019/0...aying-man-filming-them-during-a-traffic-stop/
Do they train at all for de-escalation techniques?
Chicago police pop off on guy filming them at gas station: https://blockclubchicago.org/2019/0...aying-man-filming-them-during-a-traffic-stop/
Those three officers -- Kevin Mansell, Danny Vasquez and Dustin Dillard -- were indicted by a grand jury in 2017 on charges of misdemeanor deadly conduct, three months after The News published its investigation into Timpa’s death. Following two days of testimony, the grand jury’s indictment stated that the "officers engaged in reckless conduct that placed Timpa in imminent danger of serious bodily injury.”
But in March, Dallas County District Attorney John Creuzot dismissed the charges.
In the video, Dillard pins Timpa to the ground with his knee in his back for more than 13 minutes. Keeping someone face-down and bound at the arms and legs is known as the "prone position," a method of restraint that is controversial in policing. Several studies have shown it may increase the risk for asphyxiation and sudden death.
Officers should know the dangers of restraining someone in a prone position, said Erik Heipt, a Seattle lawyer who specializes in cases of in-custody deaths.
“It’s just basic science: People can be essentially suffocated to death when they're lying on their stomachs in a prone position and there’s weight on their backs compressing their chest and diaphragm,” Heipt said.
So what did she do? Why was she pulled over in the first place?
I’m trying to figure out why he had to chase her down, pull her out, and tase her to give her a ticket.
I ran a red light earlier this year. A camera filmed my car including my license plate and the city sent me a ticket. I don’t know why the cop couldn’t have just body cammed her license plate and sent her a ticket.
because with the exception of statutory stuff like red-light cameras, the state has the burden of proving you actually committed the crime (infraction, in this case) you were charged with.
Innocent until proven guilty and all that.
How did pulling her out of the car and tasing her prove the crime?
How is the crime proven by handing her a ticket rather than sending her a ticket?
So what did she do? Why was she pulled over in the first place?
I’m trying to figure out why he had to chase her down, pull her out, and tase her to give her a ticket.
I ran a red light earlier this year. A camera filmed my car including my license plate and the city sent me a ticket. I don’t know why the cop couldn’t have just body cammed her license plate and sent her a ticket.
Dude it wasn’t even a moving infraction? Please explain why a ticket for a broken taillight couldn’t have just been mailed to the owner of the vehicle without all this police state BS.
And that doesn’t even include questioning why a broken taillight deserves anything more than a simple warning.
And since when do you have to sign the ticket right there? Aren't you just handed the ticket? I mean, I would have wanted to tase her ass, but I'm not a highly trained professional officer of the peace who should know how to handle a situation like that without putting that MAGA shitbird in a life threatening situation.
Tasing has nothing to do with my point.
He has to hand her a ticket because otherwise he can't prove she was the one driving. Are you the only person who ever drives your car? Your wife never does? Never lend it to a friend or relative? Should you be responsible for a ticket if your friend goes 80 in a 65 in your car? No, of course not. The state has to prove you were the one driving. That is most commonly done by stopping the vehicle, obtaining the license, and writing a ticket.
Listen if we want to change the laws then that's fine, but i am assuming most states and municipalities don't have resources for an extensive network of cameras and systems to process the footage and send tickets. So we rely on the police to pull people over and assign tickets with small fines as punishment so people don't drive vehicles that put other motorists at risk of bodily harm. Is that the right option, i'm not sure, but it is what it is right now. So refusing the ticket, running from the scene, and resisting arrest will result in your ass getting tased. Every. Time.
So a broken taillight puts other motorist at risk of bodily harm so the state should put people in bodily harm to stop them.