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Ongoing US GOP Debacle Thread: Seditious Republicans march toward authoritarianism

Curious if and how Fox will evolve. Karl Rove and George Will are about as GOP establishment as it gets and they are still regularly featured on Fox. They got rid of Palin and haven't embraced Trump, Carson, and Cruz.

Has the time come for Glenn Beck?
 
Curious if and how Fox will evolve.

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Well that's what gerrymandering (safe districts), no earmarks, and spreading ignorance will do. The chickens have come home to roost.

More should be made of this as a root cause of our Congressional disaster. The reason you have nutjobs in Congress is because it's been essentially preordained that a) they'll never be challenged in an election, and b) they not only don't need to be moderate, but in many cases, are ENCOURAGED to be extreme by their vocal, voting, equally nutjob constituents.
 
More should be made of this as a root cause of our Congressional disaster. The reason you have nutjobs in Congress is because it's been essentially preordained that a) they'll never be challenged in an election, and b) they not only don't need to be moderate, but in many cases, are ENCOURAGED to be extreme by their vocal, voting, equally nutjob constituents.

I agree 100%, but how do we fix the problem?
 
But you can't change the law without the legislatures agreeing. Both parties want to be gerrymandered in their own favor.

Gerrymandering hasn't really been a Democrat thing aside from majority minority districts that benefit Republicans.

The fixes are relatively simple. Getting legislatures to give up the power to draw districts is the hardest part.
 
Know your party

I get the feeling that Brooks has spent so much time over the last 8 years defending conservatives that he didn't realize that they were actually as bad as people told him they were.
 
More should be made of this as a root cause of our Congressional disaster. The reason you have nutjobs in Congress is because it's been essentially preordained that a) they'll never be challenged in an election, and b) they not only don't need to be moderate, but in many cases, are ENCOURAGED to be extreme by their vocal, voting, equally nutjob constituents.

Bingo!
 
But you can't change the law without the legislatures agreeing. Both parties want to be gerrymandered in their own favor.
Do you believe that Democrats need to gerrymander the districts in their favor? Seems like geographically proportional districts would favor Dems anyway.
 
Do you believe that Democrats need to gerrymander the districts in their favor? Seems like geographically proportional districts would favor Dems anyway.

No. Compact districts that don't divide counties/cities slightly favor the GOP because Democratic voters pack themselves into urban areas. Not that that effect explains say, the PA, OH, or NC maps.

Democrats have absolutely gerrymandered MD by slicing up the Baltimore metro and DC suburbs so that 7 of the state's 8 districts contain some of Baltimore, Montgomery, or PG county.
 
Well some urban areas would need to be split along city/county lines or census tracks or zip codes because of the large population.

I just think districting should simply try to adhere to existing city and county boundaries as much as possible while keeping the necessary population.
 
No. Compact districts that don't divide counties/cities slightly favor the GOP because Democratic voters pack themselves into urban areas. Not that that effect explains say, the PA, OH, or NC maps.

Democrats have absolutely gerrymandered MD by slicing up the Baltimore metro and DC suburbs so that 7 of the state's 8 districts contain some of Baltimore, Montgomery, or PG county.
I've read the Guardian articles too. All of their mathematical presumptions are based on the small sample size of un-gerrymandered states/districts. There are enough metro areas with sprawl, and populated unversity/tech centers to make nearly every red state purple. These areas are either being isolated and chained together, or spliced up in Republican gerrymandering. Democratic gerrymandering is an exception, and in Maryland's case it's produced 1 extra dem representative. Republican State gerrymandering has produced nearly 10 extra republican reps from Texas and Wisconsin alone.
 
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They should be chained together. They live in the same place and face similar issues.
 
Ongoing US GOP Debacle Thread

You think urban Winston and urban Charlotte should share a congressional district?

Why? They're in completely different parts of the state. That's the problem we want to fix. Cities and counties should only be big if they're too big by population for one district.
 
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