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Ongoing US GOP Debacle Thread: Seditious Republicans march toward authoritarianism

Random thought. What is more disrespectful to the troops, kneeling to protest violations of rights, or dressing up multimillionaire coaches in faux combat fatigues and calling it a "salute to service"?

it was never about the troops
 
Exactly. And neither is the NFL's stupid patriotism theater.

And I really hope that Kap and Reid get paid. I hope they are awarded damages x every Nathan Peterman interception thrown.

I’m glad the Bills suck. Y’all deserve it. Sorry, siff. You seem like a cool dude.
 
Ongoing US GOP Debacle Thread: Embracing Trumpism/White Supremacy

He’d have cheering crowds among the troops too. He’s just scared to visit a combat zone.
 
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When Yamiche Alcindor tried to ask Trump about how Casey got access to the WH, Trump yelled at her that her question was racist. He kept calling her and the question racist.
 
Outgoing congressman... only took you two years to realize this guy is a piece of shit.


 
He’s a spineless wimp. He won’t help any resistance.
 
Outgoing congressman... only took you two years to realize this guy is a piece of shit.



Two years, having his district redrawn, and drawing one of the strongest Dem candidates of this cycle.

He's still calling for state Supreme Court justices to be impeached for un-gerrymandering his seat:

 
Weekly standard publishes recording of Steve King referring to Mexican immigrants as “dirt” at a campaign event



Conservative policy magazine The Weekly Standard on Saturday posted audio of Iowa Rep. Steve King (R) using derogatory language to apparently refer to Mexican immigrants at a campaign event after King and his campaign denied the comments were made.

In the audio, the Iowa congressman can be heard joking with a constituent about importing "dirt" from Mexico, which appears to be a derogatory reference to immigrants coming from Mexico and other Central American countries through the U.S.'s southern border.

"I guess I'm going to have to go get some dirt from Mexico to grow the next batch [of jalapeño peppers,]" King says in the audio, while apparently referring to peppers he had grown in his home garden.

"Trust me, it's on its way," a female supporter responds, laughing.

"Well, yeah, there's plenty of dirt. And it's coming from the west coast, too," King joked. "And a lot of other places, besides. This is the most dirt we've ever seen."


After making the remarks, the Standard notes that King reportedly became nervous upon realizing that a reporter may have heard the remarks, and changed the subject.

"This is actually not supposed to start for another six minutes, is it? But, so we’re just kind of chatting here informally here until things get rolling,” King is heard in the audio immediately following the "dirt" remarks.

The Iowa congressman's campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Hill on the remarks. King and his campaign previously denied the existence of the audio, daring the magazine to post it in a series of Twitter posts.

“You heard it directly from Jeff King and chose to defend your junk yard dog. You refused to release the tape,” he wrote.

“Just release the full tape. Leftists lies exist without original sources because they are false and manufactured accusations. Weekly Standard is transitioning into ‘Antifa News,' ” King added in another message.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...s-recording-of-king-using-derogatory-language
 
Weekly standard publishes recording of Steve King referring to Mexican immigrants as “dirt” at a campaign event



Conservative policy magazine The Weekly Standard on Saturday posted audio of Iowa Rep. Steve King (R) using derogatory language to apparently refer to Mexican immigrants at a campaign event after King and his campaign denied the comments were made.

In the audio, the Iowa congressman can be heard joking with a constituent about importing "dirt" from Mexico, which appears to be a derogatory reference to immigrants coming from Mexico and other Central American countries through the U.S.'s southern border.

"I guess I'm going to have to go get some dirt from Mexico to grow the next batch [of jalapeño peppers,]" King says in the audio, while apparently referring to peppers he had grown in his home garden.

"Trust me, it's on its way," a female supporter responds, laughing.

"Well, yeah, there's plenty of dirt. And it's coming from the west coast, too," King joked. "And a lot of other places, besides. This is the most dirt we've ever seen."


After making the remarks, the Standard notes that King reportedly became nervous upon realizing that a reporter may have heard the remarks, and changed the subject.

"This is actually not supposed to start for another six minutes, is it? But, so we’re just kind of chatting here informally here until things get rolling,” King is heard in the audio immediately following the "dirt" remarks.

The Iowa congressman's campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Hill on the remarks. King and his campaign previously denied the existence of the audio, daring the magazine to post it in a series of Twitter posts.

“You heard it directly from Jeff King and chose to defend your junk yard dog. You refused to release the tape,” he wrote.

“Just release the full tape. Leftists lies exist without original sources because they are false and manufactured accusations. Weekly Standard is transitioning into ‘Antifa News,' ” King added in another message.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...s-recording-of-king-using-derogatory-language

The GOP must be so proud to have a Nazi representing them in the House. I'm sure that all those Iowans keep voting for him just because of economic insecurity, and his racial views have nothing to do with his level of support.
 
I’m going to put this here. Could be it’s own thread, maybe.

But one of my complaints about the gop is that they’ve become stupidly sloganistic. The answer to almost any real problem is supposedly some variation of “lower taxes, less regulation, and/or smaller ‘government’”. No need to really think about anything or understand problems, just cut taxes, decrease regulation, etc. There seems to be precious little grasp of any positive role for government to play beyond protecting corporations and wealthy folks from the clamoring lazy rabble that want to “take” from them in some allegedly misguided efforts to try and maintain a salutary society. And building up the military. That’s about it.

And their chosen path to power has become increasingly dependent on flat out lying and ginned-up fear mongering.

Anyhow, there are many things we probably should fear. Here’s one (or two):

Be Afraid of Economic ‘Bigness.’ Be Very Afraid. In the 1930s it contributed to the rise of fascism. Alarmingly, we are experimenting again with a monopolized economy.


In the aftermath of the Second World War, an urgent question presented itself: How can we prevent the rise of fascism from happening again? If over the years that question became one of mostly historical interest, it has again become pressing, with the growing success of populist, nationalist and even neofascist movements all around the world.

Common answers to the question stress the importance of a free press, the rule of law, stable government, robust civic institutions and common decency. But as undoubtedly important as these factors are, we too often overlook something else: the threat to democracy posed by monopoly and excessive corporate concentration — what the Supreme Court justice Louis Brandeis called the “curse of bigness.” We must not forget the economic origins of fascism, lest we risk repeating the most calamitous error of the 20th century.

Postwar observers like Senator Harley M. Kilgore of West Virginia argued that the German economic structure, which was dominated by monopolies and cartels, was essential to Hitler’s consolidation of power. Germany at the time, Mr. Kilgore explained, “built up a great series of industrial monopolies in steel, rubber, coal and other materials. The monopolies soon got control of Germany, brought Hitler to power and forced virtually the whole world into war.”

To suggest that any one cause accounted for the rise of fascism goes too far, for the Great Depression, anti-Semitism, the fear of communism and weak political institutions were also to blame. But as writers like Diarmuid Jeffreys and Daniel Crane have detailed, extreme economic concentration does create conditions ripe for dictatorship.

It is a story that should sound uncomfortably familiar: An economic crisis yields widespread economic suffering, feeding an appetite for a nationalistic and extremist leader. The leader rides to power promising a return to national greatness, deliverance from economic suffering and the defeat of enemies foreign and domestic (including big business). Yet in reality, the leader seeks alliances with large enterprises and the great monopolies, so long as they obey him, for each has something the other wants: He gets their loyalty, and they avoid democratic accountability.

There are many differences between the situation in 1930s and our predicament today. But given what we know, it is hard to avoid the conclusion that we are conducting a dangerous economic and political experiment: We have chosen to weaken the laws — the antitrust laws — that are meant to resist the concentration of economic power in the United States and around the world.

From a political perspective, we have recklessly chosen to tolerate global monopolies and oligopolies in finance, media, airlines, telecommunications and elsewhere, to say nothing of the growing size and power of the major technology platforms. In doing so, we have cast aside the safeguards that were supposed to protect democracy against a dangerous marriage of private and public power.

Unfortunately, there are abundant signs that we are suffering the consequences, both in the United States and elsewhere. There is a reason that extremist, populist leaders like Jair Bolsonaro of Brazil, Xi Jinping of China and Viktor Orban of Hungary have taken center stage, all following some version of the same script. And here in the United States, we have witnessed the anger borne of ordinary citizens who have lost almost any influence over economic policy — and by extension, their lives. The middle class has no political influence over their stagnant wages, tax policy, the price of essential goods or health care. This powerlessness is brewing a powerful feeling of outrage.

After the fall of the Third Reich, the Allies broke up the major Nazi monopolies specifically so that they could not be “used by Germany as instruments of political or economic aggression,” in the words of the law used to do so. The United States took its medicine, too: In 1950, Congress passed the Anti-Merger Act of 1950 to curb politically and economically dangerous concentrations. It empowered the Justice Department and Federal Trade Commission to block or undo mergers when the effect was “substantially to lessen competition or to tend to create a monopoly.”

It would be understandable if you assumed that the Anti-Merger Act of 1950 had been repealed. But in fact it remains on the books. It has merely been evaded, eroded and enfeebled by the corroding effect of decades of industry pressure and ideological drift, yielding hesitant enforcers and a hostile judiciary. Consequently, over the last two decades we have allowed successive waves of mergers that make a mockery of the 1950 law, and have concentrated economic power in ways that are dangerous to the polity.

In recent years, we have allowed unhealthy consolidations of hospitals and the pharmaceutical industry; accepted an extraordinarily concentrated banking industry, despite its repeated misfeasance; failed to prevent firms like Facebook from buying up their most effective competitors; allowed AT&T to reconsolidate after a well-deserved breakup in the 1980s; and the list goes on. Over the last two decades, more than 75 percent of United States industries have experienced an increase in concentration, while United States public markets have lost almost 50 percent of their publicly traded firms.

There is a direct link between concentration and the distortion of democratic process. As any undergraduate political science major could tell you, the more concentrated an industry — the fewer members it has — the easier it is to cooperate to achieve its political goals. A group like the middle class is hopelessly disorganized and has limited influence in Congress. But concentrated industries, like the pharmaceutical industry, find it easy to organize to take from the public for their own benefit. Consider the law preventing Medicare from negotiating for lower drug prices: That particular lobbying project cost the industry more than $100 million — but it returns some $15 billion a year in higher payments for its products.

We need to figure out how the classic antidote to bigness — the antitrust and other antimonopoly laws — might be recovered and updated to address the specific challenges of our time. For a start, Congress should pass a new Anti-Merger Act reasserting that it meant what it said in 1950, and create new levels of scrutiny for mega-mergers like the proposed union of T-Mobile and Sprint.

But we also need judges who better understand the political as well as economic goals of antitrust. We need prosecutors willing to bring big cases with the courage of trustbusters like Theodore Roosevelt, who brought to heel the empires of J.P. Morgan and John D. Rockefeller, and with the economic sophistication of the men and women who challenged AT&T and Microsoft in the 1980s and 1990s. Europe needs to do its part as well, blocking more mergers, especially those like Bayer’s recent acquisition of Monsanto that threaten to put entire global industries in just a few hands.

The United States seems to constantly forget its own traditions, to forget what this country at its best stands for. We forget that America pioneered a kind of law — antitrust — that in the words of Roosevelt would “teach the masters of the biggest corporations in the land that they were not, and would not be permitted to regard themselves as, above the law.” We have forgotten that antitrust law had more than an economic goal, that it was meant fundamentally as a kind of constitutional safeguard, a check against the political dangers of unaccountable private power.

As the lawyer and consumer advocate Robert Pitofsky warned in 1979, we must not forget the economic origins of totalitarianism, that “massively concentrated economic power, or state intervention induced by that level of concentration, is incompatible with liberal, constitutional democracy.”
 
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