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Ongoing US GOP Debacle Thread: Seditious Republicans march toward authoritarianism

the Pro-Jaywalking faction is really weird. at least 923 has a civil engineering excuse
 
WakeForestRanger said:
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If the SPLC has nothing to hide then why does the Tunnels Left fear an investigation?

Also - Why would the SPLC need an offshore account in the Cayman Islands to fight for social justice?
 
Colonel Angus said:
If the SPLC has nothing to hide then why does the Tunnels Left fear an investigation?

Also - Why would the SPLC need an offshore account in the Cayman Islands to fight for social justice?
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Because it's easier for George Soros to transfer them money from his Cayman Islands account that way.
 
Colonel Angus said:
If the SPLC has nothing to hide then why does the Tunnels Left fear an investigation?

Also - Why would the SPLC need an offshore account in the Cayman Islands to fight for social justice?
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Sure, it is not unreasonable to investigate the tax exempt status; the second part of this tweet though is wildly over the top and presupposes the conclusions of said investigation. It's worthy of a little mocking.

In fact it wouldn't be a bad a idea to randomly investigate the status of all large non-profit organizations. the Catholic Church's status seems ripe for re-evaluation.
 
Colonel Angus said:
If the SPLC has nothing to hide then why does the Tunnels Left fear an investigation?

Also - Why would the SPLC need an offshore account in the Cayman Islands to fight for social justice?
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The irony here is monsoon thick. Angus and other wacko RWers were totally outraged at Obama "using" the IRS to go after RW groups even AFTER it was proven that the ONLY group that got in trouble was a liberal organization and the person who came up with the plan testified, under oath that he was a registered Republican and voted against Obama. His boss was also a W appointee.

Angus and his brethren used this red herring for years. Now, because one person got in trouble he wants to crucify SPLC.

By the way, anyone who calls the SPLC "a political hate group" is an extremist moron.
 
The SPLC has for decades identified "hate groups", and has backed up those claims with details and evidence. They have been sued on numerous occasions, and lost a few cases, but their overall record is excellent on identifying individuals, groups, and organizations that are racist and bigoted against other groups of people. By claiming that the SPLC itself is a hate group, the GOP is providing yet another example of how it projects its own problems onto its critics. Right-wingers aren't associated with hate groups, it's the SPLC that is a hate group - or so they'd like their base to believe.
 
If you had asked me 15 years ago if the GOP was aligned with the anti-hate group goals of the SPLC, I would have said yes. Now it’s pretty clear the GOP is aligned with hate groups and has no interest in rooting out white nationalists including domestic terrorists.
 
Highland Deac said:
The SPLC has for decades identified "hate groups", and has backed up those claims with details and evidence. They have been sued on numerous occasions, and lost a few cases, but their overall record is excellent on identifying individuals, groups, and organizations that are racist and bigoted against other groups of people. By claiming that the SPLC itself is a hate group, the GOP is providing yet another example of how it projects its own problems onto its critics. Right-wingers aren't associated with hate groups, it's the SPLC that is a hate group - or so they'd like their base to believe.
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What a crock of shit... stop getting your talking points from the MSNBC primetime lineup.

See below for "claims with details and evidence":

The center also revved up its fervid and lucrative preoccupation with “hate.” A recent SPLC graph purports to depict a steady 30 percent increase in the number of American hate groups, from 784 in 2014 to a record 1,020 in 2018. This is because of what the SPLC claims is a “rising tide” of Trump-era white animosity. Its new interactive “hate map” allows users to track hate from Maine, which contains 5 hate groups, to California, which has 83 groups. For several months after Trump’s election, the New York Times ran a feature titled “This Week in Hate,” consisting of reports supplied by the SPLC and others of swastikas painted on walls and Muslims derided as terrorists. Many of the reports could not be corroborated or were proved to be false. The SPLC also entered into working partnerships with Amazon, Facebook, Google, PayPal, and Twitter to police their platforms for alleged hate and blacklist what it considered objectionable. Some of the organizations the SPLC defined as hate groups are simply Christian advocacy entities, such as Family Research Council and Alliance Defending Freedom, the latter of which represented Christian baker Jack Phillips in his successful Supreme Court battle against being forced to design a cake for a gay wedding. The SPLC has branded such figures as conservative political scientist Charles Murray, Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson, who is black, and Somali-born women’s-rights activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali as haters, alongside the Aryan Brotherhood. In June 2018, the SPLC settled for $3 million and an apology from Cohen in response to a defamation claim by Islamic reformer Maajid Nawaz for including him in the SPLC’s A Journalist’s Manual: Field Guide to Anti-Muslim Extremists. Other individuals and groups that believe they have been maligned by the center are considering lawsuits.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/wheels-come-off-the-southern-poverty-law-center
 
PhDeac said:
If you had asked me 15 years ago if the GOP was aligned with the anti-hate group goals of the SPLC, I would have said yes. Now it’s pretty clear the GOP is aligned with hate groups and has no interest in rooting out white nationalists including domestic terrorists.
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Then it's a good thing nobody asked you for your opinion 15 years ago.

I can't speak for the GOP but I have no issues rooting out white nationalists and domestic terrorists.

But when the SPLC lumps the Family Research Council into the "Hate Group" category with the KKK simply because of politics, it exposes itself as nothing more than a sham organization to raise money from idiot leftists.
 
Colonel Angus said:
What a crock of shit... stop getting your talking points from the MSNBC primetime lineup.

See below for "claims with details and evidence":



https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/wheels-come-off-the-southern-poverty-law-center
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Lord you're dense, Angus. Quoting from another right-wing source, I see. Below are some actual court cases that the SPLC has won against all these "non-bigoted, non-biased" groups. The SPLC certainly isn't perfect - one of their founders and leaders, Morris Dees, recently had to resign in a sexual harassment scandal, among other things, but to argue that the SPLC hasn't done an awful lot of good work over the past four decades is absurd, unless you support the Klan, neo-Nazis, and a lot of other hate groups. This is just a sample of the cases they've taken on and won.

*In Sims v. Amos, the SPLC successfully forced the Alabama state legislature in court to to redraw its districts to provide fair representation for black politicians. It led to the election of 15 black legislators in the 1974 legislative elections in Alabama.

*In 1981, the SPLC took Ku Klux Klan leader Louis Beam's Klan-associated militia, the Texas Emergency Reserve (TER), to court to stop racial harassment and intimidation of Vietnamese shrimpers in and around Galveston Bay. The Klan's actions against approximately 100 Vietnamese shrimpers in the area included a cross burning, sniper fire aimed at them, and arsonists burning their boats.
In May 1981, U.S. District Court judge Gabrielle McDonald issued a preliminary injunction against the Klan, requiring them to cease intimidating, threatening, or harassing the Vietnamese. McDonald eventually found the TER and Beam liable for tortious interference, violations of the Sherman Antitrust Act, and of various civil rights statutes and thus permanently enjoined them against violence, threatening behavior, and other harassment of the Vietnamese shrimpers.

*In 1982, armed members of the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan terrorized Bobby Person, a black prison guard, and members of his family. They harassed and threatened others, including a white woman who had befriended blacks. In 1984, Person became the lead plaintiff in Person v. Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, a lawsuit brought by the SPLC in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of North Carolina. The harassment and threats continued during litigation and the court issued an order prohibiting any person from interfering with others inside the courthouse. In January 1985, the court issued a consent order that prohibited the group's "Grand Dragon", Frazier Glenn Miller Jr., and his followers from operating a paramilitary organization, holding parades in black neighborhoods, and from harassing, threatening or harming any black person or white persons who associated with black persons. Subsequently, the court dismissed the plaintiffs' claim for damages.

*In 1987, SPLC won a case against the United Klans of America for the lynching of Michael Donald, a black teenager in Mobile, Alabama. The SPLC used an unprecedented legal strategy of holding an organization responsible for the crimes of individual members to help produce a $7 million judgment for the victim's mother. The verdict forced United Klans of America into bankruptcy. Its national headquarters was sold for approximately $52,000 to help satisfy the judgment.

*In May 1991, Harold Mansfield, a black U.S. Navy war veteran, was murdered by George Loeb, a member of the neo-Nazi "Church of the Creator" (now called the Creativity Movement). SPLC represented the victim's family in a civil case and won a judgment of $1 million from the church in March 1994. The church transferred ownership to William Pierce, head of the National Alliance, to avoid paying money to Mansfield's heirs. The SPLC filed suit against Pierce for his role in the fraudulent scheme and won an $85,000 judgment against him in 1995. The amount was upheld on appeal and the money was collected prior to Pierce's death in 2002.
 
No issue with any of those cases above.

But as I am dense, please explain why the last noteworthy case was from 28 years ago in 1991?

Surely with the explosion in hate groups after Trump's election the SPLC would be knee deep in legal cases over the last few years.

Has the SPLC been on sabbatical for 30 years?
 
Colonel Angus said:
No issue with any of those cases above.

But as I am dense, please explain why the last noteworthy case was from 28 years ago in 1991?

Surely with the explosion in hate groups after Trump's election the SPLC would be knee deep in legal cases over the last few years.

Has the SPLC been on sabbatical for 30 years?
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Lolz. I deliberately only listed a handful of cases, Angus. Would you like to do a Google Search and see what they've been up to recently?
 
Highland Deac said:
Lolz. I deliberately only listed a handful of cases, Angus. Would you like to do a Google Search and see what they've been up to recently?
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That's too much effort for Angus
 
Colonel Angus said:
Then it's a good thing nobody asked you for your opinion 15 years ago.

I can't speak for the GOP but I have no issues rooting out white nationalists and domestic terrorists.

But when the SPLC lumps the Family Research Council into the "Hate Group" category with the KKK simply because of politics, it exposes itself as nothing more than a sham organization to raise money from idiot leftists.
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But that is not what the tweet said. Cotton called them a "political hate group" to justify the investigation. That's a ridiculous assertion.
 
Here are some recent SPLC tweets (shows actions they are doing):

""When people are punished for their inability to pay fines and fees, jurisdictions have effectively made it a crime to be poor." — SPLC's Caren Short #EndMoneyBail #StopUnjustFines @MacArthrJustice"


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"Kentucky and Arkansas both tried to require people who depend on Medicaid to work in exchange for health benefits. We sued — and won."

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SB 7030 would divert public dollars away from instruction, mental health services, and student activities in public schools — and not unproven solutions that risk making our schools LESS safe. #StopSB7030 #DontArmTeachers"

Like usual, Angus has no clue and simply parrots his masters' ignorance and hate.
 
RJKarl said:
The irony here is monsoon thick. Angus and other wacko RWers were totally outraged at Obama "using" the IRS to go after RW groups even AFTER it was proven that the ONLY group that got in trouble was a liberal organization and the person who came up with the plan testified, under oath that he was a registered Republican and voted against Obama. His boss was also a W appointee.

Angus and his brethren used this red herring for years. Now, because one person got in trouble he wants to crucify SPLC.

By the way, anyone who calls the SPLC "a political hate group" is an extremist moron.
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Well, they were effectively called that by Ken Silverstein and Alexander Cockburn. You remember those two, don’t you. From the days of real muck-raking journalism.

Yes, even the FBI cut ties with SPLC..so out of bounds and hate filled they themselves had become.
 
Ken Silverstein, a liberal journalist and another critic of the group who authored a scathing investigation of its marketing and financial practices for Harper’s in 2000, attributes the growing scope of the SPLC’s censures to a financial imperative to wade into hot-button issues that will rile donors. “The organization has always tried to find ways to milk money out of the public by finding whatever threat they can most credibly promote,” he says.

For Politico to call Silverstein a “liberal journalist” is weak sauce. He was an icon to this 70’s-80’s ultra Progressive (yes me! Look Ma, no hands! — and no paycheck either) :)
 
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