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Ongoing US GOP Debacle Thread: Seditious Republicans march toward authoritarianism

WakeForestRanger said:
I don't really know what we're arguing about here. The "OK" symbol is decades old and had no racial connotations. It still has no racial connations for the vast majority of the population. But several years ago racists started using it to flash "white power" in public and because it has an accepted non-racist meaning in the population at large that gives them plausible deniability when called on it.

The Navy and Army cadets may have been playing the circle game but the only way an investigation would have found out otherwise is if one of them was stupid enough to admit to it. It was in both cadets and the academies interest for that to be the outcome of the investigation.
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I get the sense that the last couple of pages have consisted of conservatives trolling board liberals about this dumb white power symbol crap to deflect attention from other GOP shittiness. What else are they going to do - defend Trump and impeachment, or argue against the Christianity Today editorials, or pretend that their own party isn't an ethical and moral and simple human decency dumpster fire?
 
Junebug said:
OMG! Eric Clapton too!

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He seems to be really into it too.
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Actually, Clapton was pretty racist.

https://www.insidehook.com/article/music/eric-clapton-racism
More significantly, once upon a time in an extremely public setting (an arena full of fans in Birmingham, England), Eric Clapton proudly made these comments:

“Do we have any foreigners in the audience tonight? If so, please put up your hands … So where are you? Well wherever you all are, I think you should all just leave. Not just leave the hall, leave our country … I don’t want you here, in the room or in my country. Listen to me, man! I think we should send them all back. Stop Britain from becoming a black colony. Get the foreigners out. Get the wogs out. Get the coons out. Keep Britain white … The black wogs and coons and Arabs and f*cking Jamaicans don’t belong here, we don’t want them here. This is England, this is a white country, we don’t want any black wogs and coons living here. We need to make clear to them they are not welcome. England is for white people, man … This is Great Britain, a white country, what is happening to us, for f*ck’s sake? … Throw the wogs out! Keep Britain white!”
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junebug only posts when he’s taking a shit he says. sorry for your diarrhea today.
 
This too is Bill Clinton’s fault:

 
birdman said:
This too is Bill Clinton’s fault:

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No, but she was apparently a wild, libertine woman who allowed her husband to take lots of nude pics of her that she thought would be kept private, so she had it coming when they went through a divorce and he released the pics onto the net. What else should she have expected, the sinful, decadent, slutty fool? Slut shaming her into quitting Congress and having her ex-hubby and right-wing media blackmail her with the threat of more pics being released if she didn't quit is perfectly acceptable in those circumstances, even though lots of men have done worse and either stay in Congress or don't leave for a much longer time, like Duncan Hunter. Slutty, shameful women like that don't need to be in politics, amirite!
 
The guitar playing comparison for holding a pick made us all dumber.
 
birdman said:
That must be why they stripped her of all her responsibilities. Way to go GOP.
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This case was discussed ad nauseam on the Katie Hill/Democrats thread at the time, but the affair that she admitted to happened during her campaign, and thus wasn't a violation of congressional ethics rules (bad judgment, but not a violation.) She has consistently denied the second accusation that she had an affair with a male staffer after she was elected, and so has the male staffer she's accused of seeing. The accusation was made by her ex-husband who released the nude photos to right-wing websites, and to my knowledge no direct evidence or proof has surfaced that she ever had an affair with this person. Of course they might all be lying, and if she did have an affair after her election she should have resigned, but I continue to find it interesting that conservatives became so obsessed with this case while basically ignoring similar, more serious, and evidential offenses among male Republican pols in Congress and around the country (and in the WH), and appear to have no problems with her vengeful ex-hubby releasing clearly private photos to right-wing websites in what amounted to a successful attempt to blackmail her into quitting, and appear to have no concern whatsoever with what her former husband did. Some even denied that "revenge porn" is an issue, even though it's on the books in a number of states. Cultural conservatism indeed.
 
Highland Deac said:
This case was discussed ad nauseam on the Katie Hill/Democrats thread at the time, but the affair that she admitted to happened during her campaign, and thus wasn't a violation of congressional ethics rules (bad judgment, but not a violation.) She has consistently denied the second accusation that she had an affair with a male staffer after she was elected, and so has the male staffer she's accused of seeing. The accusation was made by her ex-husband who released the nude photos to right-wing websites, and to my knowledge no direct evidence or proof has surfaced that she ever had an affair with this person. Of course they might all be lying, and if she did have an affair after her election she should have resigned, but I continue to find it interesting that conservatives became so obsessed with this case while basically ignoring similar, more serious, and evidential offenses among male Republican pols in Congress and around the country (and in the WH), and appear to have no problems with her vengeful ex-hubby releasing clearly private photos to right-wing websites in what amounted to a successful attempt to blackmail her into quitting, and appear to have no concern whatsoever with what her former husband did. Some even denied that "revenge porn" is an issue, even though it's on the books in a number of states. Cultural conservatism indeed.
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You're lying about this being a case of revenge porn, and you're lying about her ex husband "releasing" the photos to a conservative website. Pretty sure it's intentional and it makes you look like a partisan hack.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
You're lying about this being a case of revenge porn, and you're lying about her ex husband "releasing" the photos to a conservative website. Pretty sure it's intentional and it makes you look like a partisan hack.
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Link #1: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/katie-hill-and-many-victims-revenge-porn/601198/

Link #2: https://www.wired.com/story/katie-hill-revenge-porn-facebook/

Link #3: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/katie-hill-resigned-because-revenge-porn-smear-s-success-puts-ncna1075126

Link #4: https://www.insider.com/katie-hill-revenge-porn-consent-exploitation-2019-11

I'm not lying about the revenge porn, cata, it was all over the news at the time. She did accuse her ex-husband of deliberately leaking the photos of her to right-wing websites, which he has denied and claimed that he was hacked. So that one is still in dispute. Any concerns over right-wing websites gleefully showing photos that were taken in private and expected to remain private to pressure a member of Congress to quit?
 
Highland Deac said:
This case was discussed ad nauseam on the Katie Hill/Democrats thread at the time, but the affair that she admitted to happened during her campaign, and thus wasn't a violation of congressional ethics rules (bad judgment, but not a violation.) She has consistently denied the second accusation that she had an affair with a male staffer after she was elected, and so has the male staffer she's accused of seeing. The accusation was made by her ex-husband who released the nude photos to right-wing websites, and to my knowledge no direct evidence or proof has surfaced that she ever had an affair with this person. Of course they might all be lying, and if she did have an affair after her election she should have resigned, but I continue to find it interesting that conservatives became so obsessed with this case while basically ignoring similar, more serious, and evidential offenses among male Republican pols in Congress and around the country (and in the WH), and appear to have no problems with her vengeful ex-hubby releasing clearly private photos to right-wing websites in what amounted to a successful attempt to blackmail her into quitting, and appear to have no concern whatsoever with what her former husband did. Some even denied that "revenge porn" is an issue, even though it's on the books in a number of states. Cultural conservatism indeed.
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I was talking about the original tweet that I posted which referenced a story about a woman who worked for the Trump campaign, had an affair with her married supervisor, got pregnant was subsequently punished by the campaign and transition team. The man in that situation, her supervisor, apparently experienced little or no consequence when the woman, his subordinate, essentially had her career in the Trump Whitehorse and the GOP ended. Meanwhile Katie Hill is forced to resign. As long as the women bare the consequences the GOP seems to hate extramarital sex.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
You're lying about this being a case of revenge porn, and you're lying about her ex husband "releasing" the photos to a conservative website. Pretty sure it's intentional and it makes you look like a partisan hack.
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So your argument is that a conservative website hacked a member of Congress with the intent to force a resignation to pave the way for a Republican who pled guilty to lying to the FBI.
 
birdman said:
I was talking about the original tweet that I posted which referenced a story about a woman who worked for the Trump campaign, had an affair with her married supervisor, got pregnant was subsequently punished by the campaign and transition team. The man in that situation, her supervisor, apparently experienced little or no consequence when the woman, his subordinate, essentially had her career in the Trump Whitehorse and the GOP ended. Meanwhile Katie Hill is forced to resign. As long as the women bare the consequences the GOP seems to hate extramarital sex.
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I agree with your point 100%. I was just responding to the post about Katie Hill resigning due to an affair, which is a simplistic take on the situation. I shouldn't have quoted you in the post, as it wasn't directed at you.
 
PhDeac said:
So your argument is that a conservative website hacked a member of Congress with the intent to force a resignation to pave the way for a Republican who pled guilty to lying to the FBI.
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No dude, Katie posted the pictures herself to a website seeking casual sex. Her husband notified a conservative blog site about them. That's completely different.
 
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