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The Coddling of the American Mind

Eh, I wouldn't call this social media ... this was around long before the standard iterations of the term.
 
PhDeac said:
More college kids getting coddled and protected from the 1st and 2nd amendments.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/...ward-university-receives-racist-death-threat/




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Self-fulfilling prophesy. Driving all of the nutcases, losers and attention seekers out of the woodwork.
 
ChrisL68 said:
Self-fulfilling prophesy. Driving all of the nutcases, losers and attention seekers out of the woodwork.
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Emanuel AME and Umpqua CC disagree with your causality. You can't blame Mizzou protesters for people seeking to kill black people and/or shoot up college campuses.
 
knowell said:
I guess you could always become a community organizer and ride that gravy train as long as it last.
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Well with a law degree and a passion for advocating change it certainly appears to be a long gravy train for the right people.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
Well with a law degree and a passion for advocating change it certainly appears to be a long gravy train for the right people.
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I know of one guy who was a community organizer before law school and it worked well for him.
 
From Facebook:

"Someone told me to 'give it the old college try,' so I crumbled into an incoherent mess the moment I heard an opinion that differed from mine."
 
On our campus, I would say sentiment is firmly in support of the Mizzou/Yale students. The forcefulness of it makes me uncomfortable. One of my classmates posted this on Facebook today re: a planned protest by wearing black:

"Hey, people at XXX School not wearing black today, feel free to not talk to me for the full extent of the day. Why? Simply put, you've made your choice where you stand on issues of racism and intimidation and I want to express to you my strongest disagreement. Ignorance is no excuse. There were emails announcing the blackout from a lot of the organizations at school; and I know you guys get the emails because I see you at every free lunch event during the week. Standing in solidarity with my brothers and sisters of color across the nation is about more than dressing up; it's also about confronting apathy and being unwilling to tolerate people's lack of care. Be clear friends, I don't hate you for not blacking out today. I'm just disappointed. ‪#‎ConcernedStudent1950‬"

I am firmly behind anti-racism, but the Yale protest trying to get a professor fired for writing a very thoughtful letter is way over the line for me. And I don't feel right wearing black or getting involved in this as long as that's still a goal
 
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MysteryMen said:
On our campus, I would say sentiment is firmly in support of the Mizzou/Yale students. The forcefulness of it makes me uncomfortable. One of my classmates posted this on Facebook today re: a planned protest by wearing black:

"Hey, people at XXX School not wearing black today, feel free to not talk to me for the full extent of the day. Why? Simply put, you've made your choice where you stand on issues of racism and intimidation and I want to express to you my strongest disagreement. Ignorance is no excuse. There were emails announcing the blackout from a lot of the organizations at school; and I know you guys get the emails because I see you at every free lunch event during the week. Standing in solidarity with my brothers and sisters of color across the nation is about more than dressing up; it's also about confronting apathy and being unwilling to tolerate people's lack of care. Be clear friends, I don't hate you for not blacking out today. I'm just disappointed. ‪#‎ConcernedStudent1950‬

I am firmly behind anti-racism, but the Yale protest trying to get a professor fired for writing a very thoughtful letter is way over the line for me. And I don't feel right wearing black or getting involved in this as long as that's still a goal
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I thought Townie had graduated already?
 
MysteryMen said:
On our campus, I would say sentiment is firmly in support of the Mizzou/Yale students. The forcefulness of it makes me uncomfortable. One of my classmates posted this on Facebook today re: a planned protest by wearing black:

"Hey, people at XXX School not wearing black today, feel free to not talk to me for the full extent of the day. Why? Simply put, you've made your choice where you stand on issues of racism and intimidation and I want to express to you my strongest disagreement. Ignorance is no excuse. There were emails announcing the blackout from a lot of the organizations at school; and I know you guys get the emails because I see you at every free lunch event during the week. Standing in solidarity with my brothers and sisters of color across the nation is about more than dressing up; it's also about confronting apathy and being unwilling to tolerate people's lack of care. Be clear friends, I don't hate you for not blacking out today. I'm just disappointed. ‪#‎ConcernedStudent1950‬

I am firmly behind anti-racism, but the Yale protest trying to get a professor fired for writing a very thoughtful letter is way over the line for me. And I don't feel right wearing black or getting involved in this as long as that's still a goal
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Solid millennial work by him/her to use intimidation and intolerance to decry intimidation and intolerance. Between these idiots and Obamacare, this country is truly fucked.
 
DeacLaw05 said:
From Facebook:

"Someone told me to 'give it the old college try,' so I crumbled into an incoherent mess the moment I heard an opinion that differed from mine."
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:bowrofl:

MysteryMen said:
On our campus, I would say sentiment is firmly in support of the Mizzou/Yale students. The forcefulness of it makes me uncomfortable. One of my classmates posted this on Facebook today re: a planned protest by wearing black:

"Hey, people at XXX School not wearing black today, feel free to not talk to me for the full extent of the day. Why? Simply put, you've made your choice where you stand on issues of racism and intimidation and I want to express to you my strongest disagreement. Ignorance is no excuse. There were emails announcing the blackout from a lot of the organizations at school; and I know you guys get the emails because I see you at every free lunch event during the week. Standing in solidarity with my brothers and sisters of color across the nation is about more than dressing up; it's also about confronting apathy and being unwilling to tolerate people's lack of care. Be clear friends, I don't hate you for not blacking out today. I'm just disappointed. ‪#‎ConcernedStudent1950‬"

I am firmly behind anti-racism, but the Yale protest trying to get a professor fired for writing a very thoughtful letter is way over the line for me. And I don't feel right wearing black or getting involved in this as long as that's still a goal
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this reminds me of how back in the early 90s the gay/lesbian association at Wake would have fairly poorly publicized "jeans days" where you were encouraged to wear jeans to show your support for them. EVERY DAY is jeans day at college.

that writer needs to get a grip. What if someone doesn't have black clothing? I wear plenty now, but in college I owned almost nothing black. People just need to get over themselves. It's one thing to ask for support, but it's something else entirely to shame anyone who DOESN'T support you in the way that you request.
 
wakephan09 said:
Friedersdorf's response to the Cobb NYT article above. Long, but worth a read if you're following the Missouri / Yale stories:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/race-and-the-anti-free-speech-diversion/415254/
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Piggybacking on this, here's a column from Geoff Stone, big boss on free speech in legal academia, and former Provost of University of Chicago. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-r-stone/understanding-the-free-sp_b_8535304.html

Stone doesn't say anything new or radical there. But it's at least a perspective from a campus administrator who's been dealing with these issues for 30+ years.
 
FWIW, I tend to think that the fault lines of this whole debate are not about "Free Speech" so much as the role of universities. I tend to agree with the old guard that universities are not, nor should they be, "safe places." That's not meant to diminish the need for safe places in society, either.
 
TexasDeac10 said:
Piggybacking on this, here's a column from Geoff Stone, big boss on free speech in legal academia, and former Provost of University of Chicago. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-r-stone/understanding-the-free-sp_b_8535304.html

Stone doesn't say anything new or radical there. But it's at least a perspective from a campus administrator who's been dealing with these issues for 30+ years.
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As my previous posts on this subject make clear, I'm pretty much in agreement with Friedersdorf and Stone. Anybody interested in fighting racism ought to think about what it would be like to try to fight against racism without freedom of speech.
 
BiffTannen said:
But mostly Obamacare.
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His rates went up -- he has a right to be angry because he is all that matters. He was trying to build a millennium falcon around his couch in his basement and now can't afford the pipes he needs for the gunner bay.
 
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