The Coddling of the American Mind

Milhouse · Aug 11, 2015

Shorty · Aug 12, 2015

Weak. Come on, try again.

Wrangor · Aug 12, 2015

Milhouse said:
not allowing comics who make offensive jokes to perform on campus has absolutely nothing to do with mental health

I actually agree with millhouse.

RChildress107 · Aug 12, 2015

Strickland33 said:
College administrations could have easily prevented this had they dealt better with actual issues of harassment and assault. That's my impression, at least. Also, according to this hypothetical, the people suing college campuses are not millennials, even if their spawn are...

Another thing that I wanted to add is that, I have a hunch that the micro-aggression, touchy feely, everything is offensive, etc. culture on college campuses comes straight from the Generation X scholars, educators, and administrators who now teach millennials. (Ph, wakephan09, BigTree, etc. may have a different perspective on this, though.)

Come to think about it, pretty much everyone complaining about millennials has raised, taught, mentored, or administered(?) millennials.

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myDeaconmyhand · Aug 12, 2015

Wrangor said:
I actually agree with millhouse.

+1
I think the internet has created little insular bubbles for millennials to protect themselves from scary thoughts and differing opinions, and they try to replicate that bubble offline by banning anything that could make them uncomfortable and challenge their preconceptions.

PhDeac · Aug 12, 2015

Nobody conflates not liking certain comics with mental health except the authors.

RChildress107 · Aug 12, 2015

myDeaconmyhand said:
+1
I think the internet has created little insular bubbles for millennials to protect themselves from scary thoughts and differing opinions, and they try to replicate that bubble offline by banning anything that could make them uncomfortable and challenge their preconceptions.

Lol.

1. The internet, social media in particular, is where most bullying happens these days. The younger half of the millennials have had to deal with some pretty fucked up shit on the internet.

2. The internet is the only place rich white millennials (a.k.a the people complained about on this thread) might encounter scary thoughts and differing opinions. They certainly don't encounter them at home or at schools where the majority of kids look like they do.

3. This statement is pretty rich coming from someone who spends a solid amount of internet time posting on a message board consisting almost exclusively of alumni of an elite private liberal arts school

Deacon923 · Aug 12, 2015

PhDeac said:
Nobody conflates not liking certain comics with mental health except the authors.

There was one sentence about the comics in the article, simply noting that it may be part of the same overall phenomenon and linking to an entirely separate article about college comedians. It's not like the authors' premise rests on the phenomenon of edgy comics not being signed for campus gigs.

PhDeac · Aug 12, 2015

Right. That's it. Nobody else has made that connection. So why are people getting on a high horse to disagree with it?

myDeaconmyhand · Aug 12, 2015

RChildress107 said:
Lol.

1. The internet, social media in particular, is where most bullying happens these days. The younger half of the millennials have had to deal with some pretty fucked up shit on the internet.

2. The internet is the only place rich white millennials (a.k.a the people complained about on this thread) might encounter scary thoughts and differing opinions. They certainly don't encounter them at home or at schools where the majority of kids look like they do.

3. This statement is pretty rich coming from someone who spends a solid amount of internet time posting on a message board consisting almost exclusively of alumni of an elite private liberal arts school

Don't conflate highschool bullying on FB to political correctness. There is a hashtag, Pinterest board, tumblr page, and legitimate news website for every political persuasion and political correctness niche. The modern internet has fetishized politics and porn to the same degree.

RChildress107 · Aug 12, 2015

myDeaconmyhand said:
Don't conflate highschool bullying on FB to political correctness. There is a hashtag, Pinterest board, tumblr page, and legitimate news website for every political persuasion and political correctness niche. The modern internet has fetishized politics and porn to the same degree.

Cool. That's not what you said.

RChildress107 · Aug 12, 2015

http://www.americanpressinstitute.org/publications/reports/survey-research/millennials-news/

Millennials consume news and information in strikingly different ways than previous generations, and their paths to discovery are more nuanced and varied than some may have imagined, according to the new study by the Media Insight Project, a collaboration of the American Press Institute and the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

Once they encounter news, moreover, nearly 9 in 10 report usually seeing diverse opinions, and three-quarters of those report investigating opinions different than their own.

oops

BillBrasky · Aug 12, 2015

TLDR #2015 #Olds

TownieDeac · Aug 12, 2015

I missed most of this discussion somehow (and it's one of my favorite ones!) so I'm gonna just stream of consciousness it for a minute.

America infantilizes Millennials in more than just the education and mental health sectors. It's in consumerism, branding, economics, politics.

I'm all for calling a spade a spade, millennials are Drake-level soft when it comes to a lot of things. Some of it came from good faith efforts from Xers/the people who raised millennials, who just wanted a better life for their kids. Most of it is overreaction to everything now that media is at our fingertips. Still other parts of it are just lazy characterizations.

I remember watching the debate when a candidate said "See, this is what's wrong with America. Political correctness." And it got enormous applause. I think that's true, but it's too narrow a truth. We don't engage in reality on issues. It might as well just be a bunch of rjkarls and jhmds up there spitting platitudes instead of being real. Trump hits a nerve with America because he's real as fuck. He's not polished, he's not on a leash, he's not being handled. He's an idiot, but he's not afraid to be an idiot just because he might offend someone.

I wish there were moderate Democrats that would be as real as Bernie or Warren, but they're too afraid of either offending the liberals that are too word sensitive or they're afraid of pissing off the people that bought and paid for them to be there.

PhDeac · Aug 12, 2015

I think a lot of people (like Hillary) portray themselves as moderate because they're afraid off pissing off people on either side.

sailordeac · Aug 12, 2015

What hasn't Hillary been? She has been a bunch of things. So, who is she?

Kory · Aug 13, 2015

The Chronicle collected some wonderful tweet responses to Hillary.

http://chronicle.com/blogs/ticker/h...ext/103081?cid=wc&utm_source=wc&utm_medium=en

Biff Tannen · Aug 14, 2015

Pretty obvious that millennials just don't have a sense of humor.

Wrangor · Aug 14, 2015

TownieDeac said:
I missed most of this discussion somehow (and it's one of my favorite ones!) so I'm gonna just stream of consciousness it for a minute.

America infantilizes Millennials in more than just the education and mental health sectors. It's in consumerism, branding, economics, politics.

I'm all for calling a spade a spade, millennials are Drake-level soft when it comes to a lot of things. Some of it came from good faith efforts from Xers/the people who raised millennials, who just wanted a better life for their kids. Most of it is overreaction to everything now that media is at our fingertips. Still other parts of it are just lazy characterizations.

I remember watching the debate when a candidate said "See, this is what's wrong with America. Political correctness." And it got enormous applause. I think that's true, but it's too narrow a truth. We don't engage in reality on issues. It might as well just be a bunch of rjkarls and jhmds up there spitting platitudes instead of being real. Trump hits a nerve with America because he's real as fuck. He's not polished, he's not on a leash, he's not being handled. He's an idiot, but he's not afraid to be an idiot just because he might offend someone.

I wish there were moderate Democrats that would be as real as Bernie or Warren, but they're too afraid of either offending the liberals that are too word sensitive or they're afraid of pissing off the people that bought and paid for them to be there.

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I agree with this and it is my main draw to Christie, and is why I am warming up to Kasich. They seem to be the two most real, competent candidates on the Pub side. Trump is real....real egotistical and greedy. Every day I read the news and can't believe he is leading the Republican primary. I will vote for Hillary if Trump is the R nominee. And I pretty much hate her as a political candidate.

jhmd2000 · Aug 16, 2015

sailordeac said:
What hasn't Hillary been? She has been a bunch of things. So, who is she?

That depends. What would you vote for tomorrow? She is that.

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