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The last 2 mens basketball coaches.....

Manning projects neither confidence nor competence. In pressure situations, college teams go to the well for extra resources needed to push through and win. The well is their coach. Over and over our team looks to Danny for some measure of experience or expertise to give them the belief they can emerge victorious. Over and over the well has been shown to be dry.
 
Prior coach caused the herd mentality that overlooks all the improvements which have resulted in ultra competitiveness in almost every game.

Instead of being pumped about how close we already are in year two, we demand a firing and give up.

Ignorance clearly isn't bliss.
 
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wazimu mzungu said:
Last two coaches caused the herd mentality that overlooks all the improvements which have resulted in ultra competitiveness in almost every game.

Instead of being pumped about how close we already are in year two, we demand a firing and give up.

Ignorance clearly isn't bliss.
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Parody fail
 
liveanddiedeac said:
Parody fail
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Nope, but cant wait to watch our team next year. It will be the first team that is truly terrible ol Danny Manning's. Marginal improvement from current results would equate to like 8 more wins this year with the hardest schedule in the country. But those are just dumb ol numbers and supposition.

By all means though, continue to ignore sos, continue to degrade the incoming class like you did the one you are now petitioning the mean dumb coach for more PT, and ignore how big of a difference the coach had to make to put us in a position to win basically every single game...road or otherwise.

Yeah lets convert the total lack of a chance under bzz into should win every time out and give up. haha

Adult internet brats.

I am frustrated too, we arent converting close games to wins in the regular season...but please dont be a publicly shitty fan base. It is neither classy nor smart. At least be one of the two if you demand our coach and team to be 50%.
 
wazimu mzungu said:
Nope, but cant wait to watch our team next year. It will be the first team that is truly terrible ol Danny Manning's. Marginal improvement from current results would equate to like 8 more wins this year with the hardest schedule in the country. But those are just dumb ol numbers and supposition.

By all means though, continue to ignore sos, continue to degrade the incoming class like you did the one you are now petitioning the mean dumb coach for more PT, and ignore how big of a difference the coach had to make to put us in a position to win basically every single game...road or otherwise.

Yeah lets convert the total lack of a chance under bzz into should win every time out and give up. haha

Adult internet brats.

I am frustrated too, we arent converting close games to wins in the regular season...but please dont be a publicly shitty fan base. It is neither classy nor smart. At least be one of the two if you demand our coach and team to be 50%.
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Parody fail
 
wazimu mzungu said:
By all means though, continue to ignore sos,
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Adjusted for strength of schedule, our peers are teams like Grand Canyon, UNC Asheville, and IPFW (whoever the hell that is).

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116 RPI, 120 BPI just in case you were tempted to use another rating method to argue otherwise.
 
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Did we suspect that we reached out to Archie Miller during the last search? Didn't realize until today that he had Dayton in the top 15.... Could we make another run at him after next season?
 
liveanddiedeac said:
have been hired off of one year of success at other places. [Redacted] had one really good year at Air Force and Wellman became smitten over that. Manning caught lightning in a bottle at Tulsa where they have traditionally sucked, had a great year and took them to the NCAA. We are Wake Forest damn it, one of the traditionally better ACC basketball programs, a member of the Big 4, part of Tobaco road and we've got an AD that hires basketball coaches with resumes with one year of really good success after many years of coaching and a resume of one year of success in only 2 years of head coaching. Is is inexcusable the job Wellman has done! :rulz:
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Can somebody please explain to me how Wake Forest has been one of the traditionally better ACC basketball programs? NCAA Tournament wise, no way. Are you just saying wins in the regular season? ACC Championships? Not sure where we've been a traditionally better program outside of the fans thinking we have been….
 
liveanddiedeac said:
I agree, I don't want Wellman making the next hire. I do think we could've gotten somebody with a proven track record of success, even it was not a well known name. That was the whole thing with [Redacted], we hired a guy that hardly anybody knew and his record sucked. Yeah, if you hire a guy without much of a name, you might still go "who," but if you can look at their record and they've got a good winning percentage with at least 5 years experience as an HC then you can see some logic behind it. There was no logic to the [Redacted] hire and the Manning hire seemed to be based on name more than anything.
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Could have and should have hired Chris Mack from Xaiver.
 
Buckwild said:
Can somebody please explain to me how Wake Forest has been one of the traditionally better ACC basketball programs? NCAA Tournament wise, no way. Are you just saying wins in the regular season? ACC Championships? Not sure where we've been a traditionally better program outside of the fans thinking we have been….
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NCAA tournament wise no, I meant that when you look back over the history of the ACC, we were probably more often than not top half of the league, nothing more. Somebody on here a week or 2 ago was saying how we used to be a national power and I and several other pointed out that certainly wasn't the case. However, we've traditionally had a pretty good basketball, playing in the traditionally best conference in the country. Bottom line, we deserve better than the shit salad we've eating for going on 6 years now.
 
Buckwild said:
Can somebody please explain to me how Wake Forest has been one of the traditionally better ACC basketball programs? NCAA Tournament wise, no way. Are you just saying wins in the regular season? ACC Championships? Not sure where we've been a traditionally better program outside of the fans thinking we have been….
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Over a 20 year period, we were one of the best 20-25 teams in the nation, which easily makes us one of the better teams in the ACC on a tier just behind the elites like Duke and UNC over that same time period.

We went to the post season 18 out of the 20 years preceding [name redacted]. 14/20 were to the NCAA's. Only one losing season.

1990–91Dave Odom19–118–6T-3rdNCAA Second Round
1991–92Dave Odom17–127–96thNCAA First Round
1992–93Dave Odom21–910–6T-3rdNCAA Regional Semifinals
1993–94Dave Odom21–129–73rdNCAA Second Round
1994–95Dave Odom26–612–41stNCAA Regional Semifinals
1995–96Dave Odom26–612–42ndNCAA Regional Final
1996–97Dave Odom24–711–5T-2ndNCAA Second Round
1997–98Dave Odom16–147–9T-4thNIT Second Round
1998–99Dave Odom17–147–94thNIT Second Round
1999–00Dave Odom22–147–95thNIT Champions
2000–01Dave Odom19–118–8T-5thNCAA First Round
2001–02Skip Prosser21–139–7T-3rdNCAA Second Round
2002–03Skip Prosser25–613–31stNCAA Second Round
2003–04Skip Prosser21–109–7T-3rdNCAA Regional Semifinals
2004–05Skip Prosser27–613–32ndNCAA Second Round
2005–06Skip Prosser17–173–1312thNIT First Round
2006–07Skip Prosser15–165–11T-10th
2007–08Dino Gaudio17–137–9T-7th
2008–09Dino Gaudio24–711–5T-2ndNCAA First Round
2009–10Dino Gaudio20–119–7T-5thNCAA Second Round
2010–11
Jeff [name redacted]8–241–1512th
2011–12
Jeff [name redacted]13–184–12T-12th
2012–13Jeff [name redacted]13–186–12T-9th
2013–14Jeff [name redacted]17-166-12T-11th
2014–15Danny Manning13-195-1312th

From March 2014
RacerDeac said:
Despite the Buzz error, since Odom started in 1989, Wake is still ranked #22 in Top 25 appearances, #23 in Top 10 appearances, #25 in Top 5 appearances, and #23 in #1 appearances. For the more recent years during which Skip and Dino coached, Wake was #15 in Top 25, #15 in the Top 10, #17 in Top 5, and #15 in #1 appearances. 4 of the teams (UNC, Duke, Pitt, Cuse) consistently ahead of us in those rankings are in the ACC, and Louisville hovers right around where we are. So, that leaves less than 10 jobs that would be steps up that aren't in the ACC.
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The LOWF mentality runs deep with some of our fan base who, despite all of the evidence to the contrary, refuse to believe Wake Forest was an extremely successful basketball program for a long time up until the point that Wellman decided to run it into the ground.
 
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RacerDeac said:
Adjusted for strength of schedule, our peers are teams like Grand Canyon, UNC Asheville, and IPFW (whoever the hell that is).

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116 RPI, 120 BPI just in case you were tempted to use another rating method to argue otherwise.
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:ipfw:

Indiana Purdue Fort Wayne

THE MASTODONS!!!
 
birdman said:
Could have and should have hired Chris Mack from Xaiver.
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Lol. I was crucified for saying we should go after Mack. It made perfect sense to me, but I'm not even sure we gave Coach Mack a call. Thanks again Ron
 
cheeseheads12 said:
Lol. I was crucified for saying we should go after Mack. It made perfect sense to me, but I'm not even sure we gave Coach Mack a call. Thanks again Ron
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You know Ron wasn't going to go for another Xavier coach after Skip and Dino ruined the culture at Wake.:thumbsup:
 
RacerDeac said:
Over a 20 year period, we were one of the best 20-25 teams in the nation, which easily makes us one of the better teams in the ACC on a tier just behind the elites like Duke and UNC over that same time period.

We went to the post season 18 out of the 20 years preceding [name redacted]. 14/20 were to the NCAA's. Only one losing season.

1990–91Dave Odom19–118–6T-3rdNCAA Second Round
1991–92Dave Odom17–127–96thNCAA First Round
1992–93Dave Odom21–910–6T-3rdNCAA Regional Semifinals
1993–94Dave Odom21–129–73rdNCAA Second Round
1994–95Dave Odom26–612–41stNCAA Regional Semifinals
1995–96Dave Odom26–612–42ndNCAA Regional Final
1996–97Dave Odom24–711–5T-2ndNCAA Second Round
1997–98Dave Odom16–147–9T-4thNIT Second Round
1998–99Dave Odom17–147–94thNIT Second Round
1999–00Dave Odom22–147–95thNIT Champions
2000–01Dave Odom19–118–8T-5thNCAA First Round
2001–02Skip Prosser21–139–7T-3rdNCAA Second Round
2002–03Skip Prosser25–613–31stNCAA Second Round
2003–04Skip Prosser21–109–7T-3rdNCAA Regional Semifinals
2004–05Skip Prosser27–613–32ndNCAA Second Round
2005–06Skip Prosser17–173–1312thNIT First Round
2006–07Skip Prosser15–165–11T-10th
2007–08Dino Gaudio17–137–9T-7th
2008–09Dino Gaudio24–711–5T-2ndNCAA First Round
2009–10Dino Gaudio20–119–7T-5thNCAA Second Round
2010–11
Jeff [name redacted]8–241–1512th
2011–12
Jeff [name redacted]13–184–12T-12th
2012–13Jeff [name redacted]13–186–12T-9th
2013–14Jeff [name redacted]17-166-12T-11th
2014–15Danny Manning13-195-1312th

From March 2014


The LOWF mentality runs deep with some of our fan base who, despite all of the evidence to the contrary, refuse to believe Wake Forest was an extremely successful basketball program for a long time up until the point that Wellman decided to run it into the ground.
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Seems like some either don't give us enough credit and act like we never had a really good program or they give us too much credit and say we were a national power. We were a good, solid program for years in the toughest league in the college basketball, nothing more or less.
 
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