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Shooting at an Orlando Gay Night Club

BobStackFan4Life said:
Okay. Have one of the mods post it on the sports board. "Milhouse has asked that BobStackFan4Life be banned"
Only two choices "1. Milhouse should be banned 2. BobStackFan4Life should be banned", only one vote per person (no parodies), and public vote.
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You would lose this poll, painfully.
 
RJKarl said:
It's not one or the other. It's basic common sense that if someone is on the terrorist watch list that they shouldn't be able guns.

Well, common sense to everyone other than the NRA and their lemming RWers.

What the hell, if you are one the watch list, you should $100 gift certificate to be used at your local gun shop.
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You would think that, but I guarantee the FBI would think otherwise. Being on a terrorist watch list and being a terrorist are two different things entirely. The FBI would not want the subject of an investigation tipped off that they are on a watch list.
 
EatLeadCommie said:
You would think that, but I guarantee the FBI would think otherwise. Being on a terrorist watch list and being a terrorist are two different things entirely. The FBI would not want the subject of an investigation tipped off that they are on a watch list.
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The real problem is that you would be taking away someone's constitutionally protected individual right to bear arms without due process. There is no way to challenge being on a watch list and no kind of adjudication that goes into being put on there in the first place
 
MysteryMen said:
The real problem is that you would be taking away someone's constitutionally protected individual right to bear arms without due process. There is no way to challenge being on a watch list and no kind of adjudication that goes into being put on there in the first place
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Those are problems that need to be fixed.
 
Obama: ‘We’ are to blame, not Islamic terrorism, for massacre
Omar Mateen called the cops to pledge his fealty to ISIS as he was carrying out his mass murderer in Orlando early Sunday morning. Twelve hours later, the president of the United States declared that “we have no definitive assessment on the motivation” of Omar Mateen but that “we know he was a person filled with hate.”

So I guess the president thinks Mateen didn’t mean it?

Here again, and horribly, we have an unmistakable indication that Obama finds it astonishingly easy to divorce himself from a reality he doesn’t like — the reality of the Islamist terror war against the United States and how it is moving to our shores in the form of lone-wolf attacks.

He called it “terror,” which it is. But using the word “terror” without a limiting and defining adjective is like a doctor calling a disease “cancer” without making note of the affected area of the body — because if he doesn’t know where the cancer is and what form it takes, he cannot attack it effectively and seek to extirpate it.

So determined is the president to avoid the subject of Islamist, ISIS-inspired or ISIS-directed terrorism that he concluded his remarks with an astonishing insistence that “we need the strength and courage to change” our attitudes toward the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community.

That’s just disgusting. There’s no other word for it.

America’s national attitude toward LGBT people didn’t shoot up the Pulse nightclub. This country’s national attitude has undergone a sea-change in the past 20 years, by the way, in case the president hasn’t noticed.

An Islamist terrorist waging war against the United States killed and injured 103 people on our soil. We Americans do not bear collective responsibility for this attack. Quite the opposite.

The attack on the Pulse nightclub was an attack on us all, no less than the World Trade Center attack.

To suggest we must look inward to explain this is not only unseemly but practically an act of conscious misdirection on the president’ s part to direct out attention away from Omar Mateen’s phone call.

True to form, the president spoke more words about the scourge of guns than about the threat of terror. In doing so, he actually retards rather than advances the cause of gun control he so passionately advocates.
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http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/obama-says-we-are-to-blame-not-islamic-terrorism-for-orlando-massacre/
 
I suspect more than few folks on here would agree with this stupidity:
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Dude called 911 to pledge allegiance to ISIS. That suggests he didn't know anyone in ISIS to pledge to.

No one does a better job of promoting ISIS to Americans than our politicians and media.
 
EatLeadCommie said:
You would think that, but I guarantee the FBI would think otherwise. Being on a terrorist watch list and being a terrorist are two different things entirely. The FBI would not want the subject of an investigation tipped off that they are on a watch list.
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The FBI was supporting the bill to deny those on the list the ability to buy guns. It's the NRA and GOP that opposed it .
 
Can't imagine any Muslim would be a Republican no matter how much he hates gays and loves guns.
 
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Newenglanddeac said:
Good grief people just stop with the shit about Obama and Hillary not being able to use The phrase Islamic extremism in their responses to this stuff. That headline is clearly bullshit and nowhere in the article does it quote anything remotely close to that headline.
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Newengland, bob is WAAAAAAAAY over the edge.He's is batshiit cray.

It doesn't matter to bob or Podhoretz that Obama never said that. Whatever the worst you can say is OK with them.
 
It's incredibly painful to watch detail after detail of the FBI following this guy, investigating him, knowing he was a threat but not an immediate threat.... and then he buys a fucking assault rifle and it's illegal for any system to set off a red flag if he's not under human surveillance.

All this talk of dropping "political correctness" seems like such nonsense when we're not even applying common sense to these situations.
 
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