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Shooting at an Orlando Gay Night Club

MysteryMen said:
I don't understand why the media seems to be emphasizing that this was a gay nightclub when I haven't seen anything suggesting that that was relevant to the shooting
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News is saying the shooter's father said the shooter was disgusted by seeing two men kissing in Miami. But, I suppose besides that...
 
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Strickland33 said:
I know. I just thought tying the attacks to religious freedom laws was a bit of a stretch. I'm all for anti-gun rants was my point, but idk. Probably was less about your post and more about the flood of scorching hot takes from all corners of the Internet.

It's a tragedy no matter what turns out to have been at the root of it.

My Facebook feed seems to have forgotten that. It was the same shit after the UCLA shooting last week. I hate the tendency among people I know to publicly grandstand after every tragedy these days. It's gross. But don't read too much into that post.

Shit's fucked up and I hope those who pray can spare a prayer or two tonight.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Strickland33 again.
 
ONW said:
"Shooter's father spoke to NBC News: apologized, said had nothing to do with religion, son got mad after seeing two men kissing in Miami."

https://amp.twimg.com/v/a1f07521-0c5...9-d7bf433f0361
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Well that's different then. But the NYT article I was reading earlier had nothing about any connection to homosexuality but still had a headline about a "shooting at a gay club" which I thought was pretty poor from a journalism standpoint
 
sailordeac said:
interesting that the father would prefer hatred of gays as the cause over ISIS
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Gay bashing polls better than ISIS. I think both poll better than Congress though.
 
BobStackFan4Life said:
Yeah, I found this muddled nonsense to be particularly stupid:
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What is non-sensical about it? Within hours there is going to be a fierce debate which ends in the leaders of this country doing exactly zilch. That's us as a people saying this is who we are.
 
Sandy Hook ended it. No way the gun lobby is going care more about 50 dead gays than than they care about dead children (not to mention the everyday dead children).
 
vadimivich said:
We're a country that has chosen the fact we are ok if we have mass shootings regularly.

Everyone of us should look in the mirror and accept that fact. We are ok with mass shootings, and will do nothing to prevent them.
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No one is okay with mass shootings.
 
What if this guy bought his recently after he was on a terrorist watch list? How will the public and media treat the NRA and GOPers who voted against banning those on the watch list from buying guns?
 
BobStackFan4Life said:
No one is okay with mass shootings.
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It's what you do, not what you say.

We say we are not OK with them, but our actions give lie to that. I'm tired of hearing us say we're not OK with it and to actually not be OK with it and take action.

Until then, we have to be honest with ourselves. We're OK with this happening regularly. That's the harsh truth.
 
Deadbolt said:
What is non-sensical about it? Within hours there is going to be a fierce debate which ends in the leaders of this country doing exactly zilch. That's us as a people saying this is who we are.
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Ask your coworkers tomorrow if they're cool with what happened. I'm going to guess the answer is no.
 
BobStackFan4Life said:
Ask your coworkers tomorrow if they're cool with what happened. I'm going to guess the answer is no.
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If there are no concrete solutions aside from "thoughts and prayers" that's basically acceptance.

Compare the response to a mass shooting to the response to a terrorist attack.
 
BobStackFan4Life said:
Ask your coworkers tomorrow if they're cool with what happened. I'm going to guess the answer is no.
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It's an accepted part of American life. There will be more outrage than usual out of the right because this guy was brown but nothing substantial will be done.


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MysteryMen said:
I don't understand why the media seems to be emphasizing that this was a gay nightclub when I haven't seen anything suggesting that that was relevant to the shooting
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Holy fuck are u serious ?
 
PhDeac said:
If there are no concrete solutions aside from "thoughts and prayers" that's basically acceptance.

Compare the response to a mass shooting to the response to a terrorist attack.
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My first thought is resignation is different from acceptance. Most people feel divorced from the mechanisms of power. They see that special interests hold outsized influence and voting has been reduced to the lesser of two evils. While it's true if you vote Republican you're likely voting for someone who won't have the will to take on the NRA, you still might vote Republican because of other issues where you feel they are less worse. Most people are not single issue voters. But that does not mean the public are okay with these shootings. It's more a failure of democracy and politicians who are not representative of the public.
 
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