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ban the fucking guns

Does the delay of acquiring guns infringe upon their Second Amendment right as an American citizen?

I don't know if this is a serious question, but the answer is no. The only right you have right now, per the Supreme Court, is the right to keep a handgun in your house for self-defense. There's nothing that says you have to be able to get a gun within a few days, etc.
 
I don't know if this is a serious question, but the answer is no. The only right you have right now, per the Supreme Court, is the right to keep a handgun in your house for self-defense. There's nothing that says you have to be able to get a gun within a few days, etc.

Correct, but I'll add that one can foresee a situation where a delay is long enough that its turns into a de facto denial. I'm not sure where the line is, but I would think that a delay of 6 months, for example, would be constitutionally problematic, particularly in the absence of rigorous background investigation.
 
Correct, but I'll add that one can foresee a situation where a delay is long enough that its turns into a de facto denial. I'm not sure where the line is, but I would think that a delay of 6 months, for example, would be constitutionally problematic, particularly in the absence of rigorous background investigation.

There was no problem with the 15 day rule under Brady. That happened when there wasn't a "no fly list". Thus it would be logical to assume there isn't a constitutional problem with up to a 30 day delay to verify and challenge people on that list.

Maybe something like a first ten day period and then 2-3 extensions.
 
Correct, but I'll add that one can foresee a situation where a delay is long enough that its turns into a de facto denial. I'm not sure where the line is, but I would think that a delay of 6 months, for example, would be constitutionally problematic, particularly in the absence of rigorous background investigation.
I look forward to seeing what the time frame becomes. Hopefully no states decide to impose any undue burdens on people who are just trying to make a healthy decision to protect themselves and their family. Having to travel hundreds of miles and wait multiple days for instance.
 
I'm pretty sure you have to show an ID before buying a gun.

Kinda
https://thetab.com/us/2016/06/14/i-was-able-to-buy-an-ar-15-in-five-minutes-19833
The shotguns they had in stock honestly looked pretty cool (I occasionally go to the range with my dad), so I asked to look at one of the 12-gauges on the wall. As I was examining the weapon, the lady told me it was a good choice for home defense.
I then asked if I could take a quick picture of it to help me decide, to which she replied, “Absolutely! Let me get a board for you to set it on.” By this time, I thought it was pretty surprising how I was never asked about my age, intent, or experience with firearms.
After I set the gun down to take a photo of it, the manager of the store walked up and finally asked my age. When he learned that I was 20, he simply took a shoulder stock from a cabinet and set it right beside the gun.
“Wait,” I said. “Just adding a butt to the rifle lowers the buying age from 21 to 18?”
The two sellers smiled and nodded. They then informed me that I couldn’t purchase a handgun, but I could buy a shotgun or rifle as long as it had a stock.
“Now do you want to take a look at the AR-15s?” the lady asked me.
I was taken by surprise a bit. This is the AR-15, the same weapon the gunman in Orlando used to kill 50 people; the same weapon used in the terrorist attack that occurred two days ago. It was also the weapon used in the massacres at Sandy Hook, the Aurora movie theatre, Umpqua Community College, and San Bernardino.
I never had to ask to see it, I was offered to check it out. I walked over to an employee who was no older than myself. He began to show me an AR-15 which cost $669, and told me it was popular due to the control and grip. He even told me he had one and really liked it.
...

After exchanging conversation for about five minutes, I asked, “Can I buy this today?” The seller replied, “Yeah, sure. I just need to see your driver’s license and have you fill out the paperwork.”
I gave him my license, then reached for my receipt showing I renewed it the week before. Before I even got it out of my pocket, the employee told me I was good and I just needed my vehicle registration for verification. He didn’t notice that my license had expired recently.
When I came back from my car with the vehicle registration, he was sitting at the front desk with the paperwork and weapon ready.
“Just fill this out and you’re good to go.”
 
Don't think this has been posted yet. This scares me. I don't know why this makes gun advocates feel safer.

 
exactly as the framers intended

per my question above, why not limit magazine size? Obviously this guy in the video has some knowledge of guns, and still fumbles a bit to replace his mag in a situation where he is not under duress. If you reduce 30 bullet mags to say 15, you are basically doubling the opportunity for someone to run/counterattack
 
why not 5 rounds?

Screw that, let's go with originalism. It's what Scalia would have wanted.

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FYI- RE: Due process- It's another RW/NRA red herring. In the Feinstein Bill, you are able to have either an Administrative Hearing or a full hearing in a court.

Those who say due process is denied are simply lying to you.
 
FYI- RE: Due process- It's another RW/NRA red herring. In the Feinstein Bill, you are able to have either an Administrative Hearing or a full hearing in a court.

Those who say due process is denied are simply lying to you.

Well there's still no due process in getting put on the list in the first place
 
It's easier for a 13 year old to buy a gun than to buy beer, cigarettes, and lottery tickets.
[video=youtube;PIFiJdw0uME]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=92&v=PIFiJdw0uME[/video]
 
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