SkyDivingDeacon
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I’m betting the ACC adds 6-8 teams and doesn’t unravel as feared.
Then you haven't been reading the right things. There has been plenty of discussion that the NCAA is going to be defunct for football and possibly for basketball as well.
You were really, really wrong on your NIL prediction ("Watch the worst thing that happens from this be that some female track and field athlete makes money off her TikTok.") and you're really, really wrong here on NIL's impact on conferences.
I don’t think it’s that Duke itself has that much more appeal than us - it’s more that they have a rival 8 miles away that is on paper - most attractive team in the ACC not named Clemson for Big 2. They are more attractive than FSU or Miami at the moment in my opinion- not if those programs are back to early 2000’s form. UNC is gonna look out for Duke, State, and LOWF in that order
Right. I think most folks agree that unc is desirable enough to drag a rival with them. The question is whether it’s duke or state. duke seems most likely given the marketability of that basketball game and the reputation of that rival.
Yeah and no one outside of State fans cares about State. Now, I think most Wake fans know this is the case with Wake, but State fans really do think they are a desirable property.
Just don't get this idea that Carolina is a strong enough draw that they're going to take another team with them when they're really not.
I don’t know for sure if they do have clout to bring in someone else but they are the only member of ACC who is going to think twice about other schools’ interests (with LOWF way down the list). Clemson, FSU, and Miami would go by themselves yesterday and not think twice. UVA might have some concern for VT but they’ve only been in same conference since 2004.
That a misreading of my prior posts and a misreading of my post above. I don’t think NIL is bad so framing any NIL as the “worst thing” is blatantly wrong. Along with that, you’re mischaracterizing my posts about gender equity and NIL and that NIL would impact more than just the star QB. I’ve clearly been proven to be right that NIL $$$ won’t just follow who gets highlights on ESPN.
My point is that the conference realignment process than began years ago is motivated by TV execs and college presidents. I didn’t think that was a debatable point especially not under the idea that it’s motivated by a new policy that’s barely a year old. It doesn’t make chronological sense. Even a broader point that all these moves are about helping kids get paid is laughable.
But anyway, feel free to direct me to all these articles about the new student-athlete model of the Super League. I know it will likely peel off for football. That’s an obvious step toward college presidents controlling more of the revenue.
But will it involve some sort of revenue-sharing, player unions, etc that are part of pro sports? I haven’t seen any of that discussion much less the idea that is the motivating factor. I’m sure I can counter any article you can find speculating how much the new SEC will pay player with an article on much money ESPN will pay per school for TV rights.
I honestly think Mega Conference is going to have biggest effect on non-revenue sports as they are going to now have unprecedented cash for chartered planes, recruiting budgets, facilities for women’s volleyball, tennis, cross country, etc. those sports historically Wake has done very well in as it’s typically smart upper/middle class kids that are attracted to schools like Wake and parents can pay the full tuition. Now, those kids are going to be wined and dined just like football and men’s basketball. Even if we are left out of this round of Mega Conference, it doesn’t mean we’re left out forever - control what we can control, continue to invest in facilities, keep DC happy, and get creative with NIL. We already have a fraction of budgets as these Mega schools and are competitive and/or beat them on the field.
Since about 1980 American society has valued money and the acclimation of personal wealth over anything else. “Greed is good” is our national ethos.
I’m surprised it took this long. Wake has been living on borrowed time most of my life.
It’s been since way before the 1980s. Read a history book.
Reaganomics is left wing ideology today.If you’re talking the Gilded Age and Plantation economics before that, then we agree, but I’m not sure that’s a type of society we should strive to be. But maybe you disagree.
Post Great Depression American society prioritized and worshipped the mega wealthy far less than we do today.
In Reaganomics the Wake Forests of the world always lose in the end, so here we are.
If you’re talking the Gilded Age and Plantation economics before that, then we agree, but I’m not sure that’s a type of society we should strive to be. But maybe you disagree.
Post Great Depression American society prioritized and worshipped the mega wealthy far less than we do today.
In Reaganomics the Wake Forests of the world always lose in the end, so here we are.
Reaganomics is left wing ideology today.
Do you get nose bleeds from how high your horse is?