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SayHeyDeac's Thread For Serious Political Discourse Only--Trolls Need Not Apply

I've got nothing to help you here. You are absolute right that he appears to be the exact type of person I am trying train my kids not to be. It feels weak to tell my nine year old that 'you can't scream and shout at people to get what you want, you'll never get away with that as an adult' when trump is currently tied for the presidency.

I have a toddler and has weighed on my mind throughout the election. Fortunately my guy is too young to understand what's going on right now but that will change quickly.
 
Cuban wants no part of opening his closets up to the public.

Probably.

But look who the Dem candidate is. She had to get the DNC fix in to take out a socialist. What I thought was a minor reality TV star is going to be Pres. Clinton so freaking bad she would have trouble beating a warm bucket of spit.
 
Probably.

But look who the Dem candidate is. She had to get the DNC fix in to take out a socialist. What I thought was a minor reality TV star is going to be Pres. Clinton so freaking bad she would have trouble beating a warm bucket of spit.

I think you are on the wrong thread.
 
When my child was born, W was President. Around him, we talked about the President respectfully, despite not liking him at all. I think W was a decent person and kids should look to the President with respect.

Having an absolute douchebag of a human being like Trump as President would probably change my mind.
 
You are ridiculous. At no point was Bernie ahead.

She's a terrible candidate but is a combination of Jefferson, Lincoln and Churchill as compared to the Russian agent who is Donald Trump.

We'll need Say Hey to weigh in, but I'm not sure this is allowed.
 
I agree...which should scare all of us. That being said, I still see it becoming an issue. Hillary will (or should) press hard on the issue to make it very uncomfortable for Trump. The speculation alone of why he won't release them could be as damaging or even more damaging than what's inside.

Not sure that I agree. There is no requirement to release them. Most past candidates have done so but Trump has had no problem defying convention without paying a price.

If the public were concerned about it, that would have shown up by now.

Trump voters know that he is flawed. They also know that the political system that is flawed. Most importantly, they are tired of more of the same. There is no better definition of Hillary than "more of the same".

Your choices are "more of the same" without the charisma or a flawed candidate who will definitely be different but no one is exactly sure how.
 
Mods, how about flipping the switch now so only posters are birdman, 923 and fuckmouthedrube?
 
Not sure that I agree. There is no requirement to release them. Most past candidates have done so but Trump has had no problem defying convention without paying a price.

If the public were concerned about it, that would have shown up by now.

Trump voters know that he is flawed. They also know that the political system that is flawed. Most importantly, they are tired of more of the same. There is no better definition of Hillary than "more of the same".

Your choices are "more of the same" without the charisma or a flawed candidate who will definitely be different but no one is exactly sure how.

Requirements for President:
Donald Trump: None
Hillary Clinton: 4,836,514
 
Requirements for President:
Donald Trump: None
Hillary Clinton: 4,836,514

This line is so tired. And ignorant. Both are running off of their personality. Of course there are different expectations.

If this is the best the DNC spin machine can do. Yikes. Our first female president doesn't need to be a victim.
 
This line is so tired. And ignorant. Both are running off of their personality. Of course there are different expectations.

If this is the best the DNC spin machine can do. Yikes. Our first female president doesn't need to be a victim.
I disagree strongly with this post. Clinton is running on qualifications and essentially asking voters to ignore her crappy personality and lengthy family history of personal sketchiness. Trump is running on personality and fame. Does anyone in the US think Clinton has an amazing personality?

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I disagree strongly with this post. Clinton is running on qualifications and essentially asking voters to ignore her crappy personality and lengthy family history of personal sketchiness. Trump is running on personality and fame. Does anyone in the US think Clinton has an amazing personality?

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She is who she is. So is he. We knew that coming in.

The victim complex bullshit is sad and pathetic and reeks of desperation.

But yes, they're both full of shit.

However In his own way Trump kinds of owns it. He's a buffoon that should never be president, but you have to give him that.

All Hillary does is deflect and lie. She's never owned up to her mistakes or deficiencies. And now it (and the stress of her chosen path) is catching up to her.

So excuse me if I don't shed a tear.

Pick your parable...but it all comes up.
 
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She is who she is. So is he. We knew that coming in.

The victim complex bullshit is sad and pathetic and reeks of desperation.

But yes, they're both full of shit.

However In his own way Trump kinds of owns it. He's a buffoon that should never be president, but you have to give him that.

All Hillary does is deflect and lie. She's never owned up to her mistakes or deficiencies. And now it (and the stress of her chosen path) is catching up to her.

So excuse me if I don't shed a tear.

Pick your parable...but it all comes up.

This is exactly what WFF's original post was talking about. All Trump does is lie and deflect and he has never owned up to his mistakes of deficiencies either, yet he gets a free pass. No is asking you or anybody to feel bad for Hillary and give her a free pass...we are only asking that every one drop the lovable old buffoon pretext when discussing Trump and actually examine his record too.
 
Birddawg I hate them both and hope they both DIAF immediately.

For me it's more of Hillary being brought down to his level, than vice versa. They are both gutter trash. They are slime. I'd give them both the guillotine. They're both members of an elitist class that believes that their wealth and status entitles them to tell us all what to do.

Trump is just better at pandering to the yocals that eat that shit up. My question to you is, what's the difference between the two?
 
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Birddawg I hate them both and hope they both DIAF immediately.

For me it's more of Hillary being brought down to his level, than vice versa. They are both gutter trash. They are slime. I'd give them both the guillotine. They're both members of an elitist class that believes that they're wealth and status entitles them to tell us all what to do.

Trump is just better at pandering to the yocals that eat that shit up. My question to you is, what's the difference between the two?

I felt the exact same way about Gore and Bush in 2000, voted for Nader and look where we ended up. Hind sight is 20/20 tough.

Trump and Hillary are all the things you said, except Trump is an erratic, bigoted, hot head who will undoubtedly cause serious trouble.
 
Are y'all NC folk canvassing at all? I went hard for Kerry back in '04, but he was kind of a donk.

In NC for a few days, have seen many people convassing for HRC in/around CLT and buddy from ILM said same situation there. Similar stories from NOVA, WI, and CO. Zero stories about anyone actively convassing for Trump in swing states. Guess the new silent majority doesn't need any fancy pants GOTV stuff.
 
In NC for a few days, have seen many people convassing for HRC in/around CLT and buddy from ILM said same situation there. Similar stories from NOVA, WI, and CO. Zero stories about anyone actively convassing for Trump in swing states. Guess the new silent majority doesn't need any fancy pants GOTV stuff.

This is the best (politics related) news that I've heard in awhile.
 
I agree...which should scare all of us. That being said, I still see it becoming an issue. Hillary will (or should) press hard on the issue to make it very uncomfortable for Trump. The speculation alone of why he won't release them could be as damaging or even more damaging than what's inside.

Even as POTUS, Trump's never going to release his taxes. Took him five years to refute birther nonsense. Good lucking trying to pretend his taxes will be under audit for 4 or 5 years. May get released via hack, but Cuban should bait/troll Trump on most damaging potential rumors and watch Trump take the bait.
 
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