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Vaccinating

Conservatives going the anti-education, anti-vaxx, anti-environment is an...interesting approach.

Agree thought that there are probably an equal amount of, as LD put it, "crunchy" anti-vaxxers out there

But as PH said, there is probably less likelihood of the "crunchy" indoctrinating more traditional liberals / Dems than of the right-wingers' beliefs trickling down since the left tends to be more firmly in the #science camp
 
This horseshoe seems to mostly be super uneducated falling for conspiracy and propaganda and super educated thinking they know everything because they have the internet.

Listened to this segment on NPR yesterday, turns out you are wrong again.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...cal-anthropologist-explores-vaccine-hesitancy

What are the common ideas that we have about families that don't believe in vaccination?

One common idea would be that they're all absolutely looney-tunes, crazy people wearing tinfoil hats and reading all these conspiracy theories on crazy blogs on the Internet. And that is absolutely not the case. What I found was that most of the people who are hesitating to vaccinate ... They're really smart people, and they're highly, highly educated.
 
But as PH said, there is probably less likelihood of the "crunchy" indoctrinating more traditional liberals / Dems than of the right-wingers' beliefs trickling down since the left tends to be more firmly in the #science camp

Also......

Back in 2012, you actually spoke to some parents in California, in a community where parents had their kids at a fairly progressive school. Half of kindergarteners had gotten exemptions from vaccines. What was going on in this community?

Often, the parents, the family didn't arrive at the school having any hesitancy about vaccinations ... As they acculturated or became part of the community, that's when these kinds of beliefs and practices would take hold.

The longer the family had been in the community, ... this practice of being hesitant about vaccinations evolved and it became part of that family's medical practice.
 
Both sides!

That said, if for whatever reason there was antivax legislation proposed hands down it’d be coming from the right wing.
 
God damn it pisses me off to no end for anyone to be anti-vaxx.

TITCR. People that don't vaxx their children should be charged with child abuse, if their child dies from a known preventable illness then they should be charged with homicide. We got to weed this crazy out.
 
Fixes.

1. Vaccine requirement, no exception unless cleared by an independent medical review board, for all public school children.
2. Damages for injuries and deaths for your children or others for failure to vaccinate, epi investigation and cost of sequencing should make it possible to link events to single points of contact. (Becomes somewhat tricky when you can have carrying without sickness but shouldn’t be the case in unvaccinated children)
3. Medical license review and possible suspension for any doctor that peddles in alternative vaccine treatment, schedule, etc... and refusal of care for anyone unvaccinated.
 
 
Facebook has no morals. It would be nice if another platform could be created to have Zuckerberg go the way of My Space.
 
Arizona Legislature Mulls Bills To Weaken Vaccination Requirements

...Another bill in the package would make it easier for Arizona parents to opt out, adding a new type of exemption in the state — an exemption based on religious objections.

The chair of the health committee, Rep. Nancy Barto, a Republican, is sponsoring the bills.

"These are not, in my view, anti-vaccination bills," Barto says. Instead, she reasons, the bills are about preserving religious liberty and individual rights.

But doctor after doctor at the hearing warned that the public's health was at stake...


...But that sobering scenario did not dissuade Republicans who control the health committee from voting the package of legislation through — that's despite opposition from every major medical organization in Arizona.

Rep. Becky Nutt, a Republican representing a district in Arizona's southeast corner, said she hears the concerns of the doctors, but still thinks parents should have the right to choose on behalf of their own children.

"We are in the United States of America," she says, "and we have a right to choose for our children — our religion."

Democrats on the health committee called on fellow lawmakers to resist emotional appeals.

"Don't confuse passion for facts," said Rep. Alma Hernandez, a Democrat from Tucson. She says Arizona needs to look at the established science when it comes to diseases that are preventable...
 
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people that don't vaccinate are stupid. there is and has never been any correlation to autism through vaccinations.


there is now, however, a measles outbreak starting in America...so you have that going for you.
 
 
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The Commonwealth of KY should revoke Paul's medical license.
 
If everyone is vaccinated except the non-vaxxers, won't they just eliminate themselves with disease?
Seems like a Darwin moment, but I could be missing something.
 
If everyone is vaccinated except the non-vaxxers, won't they just eliminate themselves with disease?
Seems like a Darwin moment, but I could be missing something.
The problem is parents are making the decision for their children, not the kids fault his parents are dumb as bucks. We need legislation to hold their parents responsible for the abuse they are putting on their kids.
 
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