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Role of the Media

Hopefully the total botch job from Matt Lauer, and the subsequent shitstorm he's found himself in, encourages reporters and media people to be more diligent in holding candidates accountable for their words.
 
Hopefully the total botch job from Matt Lauer, and the subsequent shitstorm he's found himself in, encourages reporters and media people to be more diligent in holding candidates accountable for their words.

I'd like to think so, especially ahead of the debates, but the moderator of the last debate has already said he won't call the candidates out when they lie.
 
The friends of the Clintons trying to intimidate reporters before the debates so they will go easy on Hillary and be tough on Trump, otherwise the'll be hell to pay.
 
Debates are a little different from that forum thing. In a debate, if your opponent lies, as a well-prepared debater you should know it and be ready and able to call him/her on the lie. That means that a moderator in a debate has a lesser duty, in my mind, to be the arbiter of truth. In situations where the two debaters are each insisting that opposite things are true, maybe the moderator should take a position.

In the forum thing, Clinton did not have the opportunity to rebut Trump's lies in real time. Only Lauer had that opportunity. In a one on one interview with a journalist, which is essentially what the forum was, the journalist absolutely has a duty to challenge the interviewee when they spew pure, unadulterated bullshit.
 
doesn't matter. Trump lies with impunity. Not sure the debates really matter
 
On the other hand, a debate should be more than "You're lying!" "No, you're lying!"

That's how the moderator comes in.
 
doesn't matter. Trump lies with impunity. Not sure the debates really matter

On the other hand, a debate should be more than "You're lying!" "No, you're lying!"

That's how the moderator comes in.

This creates a bit of a Catch-22 for Hillary. She should take every opportunity during the debates to call Trump out directly when he lies. He lies so much, however, that she risks losing her own voice/message and coming off as a "Liar Liar Pants on Fire" fool.
 
Everyone on planet earth is in a position to call Trump a liar. The guy repeatedly lies about things he's said when confronted with his exact quote on the issue.
 
On the other hand, a debate should be more than "You're lying!" "No, you're lying!"

That's how the moderator comes in.

i guess we'll see. i'm afraid the pundits will say hillary 'won' the debate but people at home will just turn them off
 
Saw this on twitter: modest proposal - no closing statements for the debates. The moderator instead takes turns confronting each candidate on ten things that they said during the debate that fact checkers flagged. The candidate is confronted with it and given an opportunity to explain, elaborate, and/or respond.
 
Neither candidate has grounds to call the other liar, and that is the conundrum. As soon as Hillary starts calling out Donald's falsehoods he is going to come over the top with her lies from the past. Gary Johnson would play a nice foil to keep the debate on track mainly because neither of them want him around, and they would be forced to play nice and debate out of fear of making him look like the adult. I am not certain of Gary's debate skills, and he isn't a dynamic presence by any means, but I do hope he makes the debates. It would at least introduce some uncertainty into the debates. We know how it is going to go if it is Hillary vs. Trump.
 
Seven ‘Facts’ Politifact Got Flagrantly Wrong While Providing Cover For Clinton Foundation
Politifact editors corrected two errors Friday in their recent post attacking The Daily Caller News Foundation’s Sept. 19 report on the Clinton Foundation distributing “watered down” HIV/AIDS drugs to millions of people in Africa, but refused to correct seven other errors.

The exchange began when TheDCNF reported that “former President Bill Clinton and his Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI) distributed ‘watered-down’ HIV/AIDs drugs to patients in sub-Saharan Africa, and ‘likely increased’ the risks of morbidity and mortality.”

TheDCNF report was based on a 78-page congressional study initiated by Rep. Marsha Blackburn, a Tennessee Republican who is vice-chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee. The report will be shared with the inspectors general at the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of State.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/02/seven-facts-politifact-got-flagrantly-wrong-while-providing-cover-for-clinton-foundation/
 
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