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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    Republicans complain about media. Rinse, repeat.

    It's like continually fouling and complaining about the refs.
    Matt Taibbi: Republican

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-shill-w434484

  2. #162
    American journalism is collapsing before our eyes
    The frenzy to bury Trump is not limited to the Clinton campaign and the Obama White House. They are working hand-in-hand with what was considered the cream of the nation’s news organizations.

    The shameful display of naked partisanship by the elite media is unlike anything seen in modern America.

    The largest broadcast networks — CBS, NBC and ABC — and major newspapers like The New York Times and Washington Post have jettisoned all pretense of fair play. Their fierce determination to keep Trump out of the Oval Office has no precedent.
    Those days are gone. The Times now is so out of the closet as a Clinton shill that it is giving itself permission to violate any semblance of evenhandedness in its news pages as well as its opinion pages.

    A recent article by its media reporter, Jim Rutenberg, whom I know and like, began this way: “If you’re a working journalist and you believe that Donald J. Trump is a demagogue playing to the nation’s worst racist and nationalistic tendencies, that he cozies up to anti-American dictators and that he would be dangerous with control of the United States nuclear codes, how the heck are you supposed to cover him?”

    Whoa, Nellie. The clear assumption is that many reporters see Trump that way, and it is note­worthy that no similar question is raised about Clinton, whose scandals are deserving only of “scrutiny.” Rutenberg approvingly cites a leftist journalist who calls one candidate “normal” and the other ­“abnormal.”

    Clinton is hardly “normal” to the 68 percent of Americans who find her dishonest and untrustworthy, though apparently not a single one of those people writes for the Times. Statistically, that makes the Times “abnormal.”

    Also, you don’t need to be a ­detective to hear echoes in that first paragraph of Clinton speeches and ads, including those featured prominently on the Times’ Web site. In effect, the paper has seamlessly ­adopted Clinton’s view as its own, then tries to justify its coverage.

    It’s an impossible task, and Rutenberg fails because he must. Any reporter who agrees with Clinton about Trump has no business covering either candidate.

    It’s pure bias, which the Times fancies itself an expert in detecting in others, but is blissfully tolerant of its own. And with the top political editor quoted in the story as ­approving the one-sided coverage as necessary and deserving, the prejudice is now official policy.
    http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/america...fore-our-eyes/

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  4. #164
    So Hannity is "informally" advising the Trump campaign. How is it not a major ethical violation for him to still have his show, even if it is on FOX, which hasn't attempted equal time or objectivity since... ever?

  5. #165
    Well nobody even pretends that Sean Hannity is in the same realm as objective.

  6. #166
    Yeah but he's not a Hillshill, so

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL68 View Post
    Well nobody even pretends that Sean Hannity is in the same realm as objective.
    objectionable, though

  8. #168
    I'm not comparing Trump to Hitler at all, just trying to get a scale of things.

    For those of you who think the media has been "too harsh" on Trump---what types of things should people have to say for the media to say "hold on a second, this isn't something that needs to be broadcasted?".

    Somewhere between what Trump is saying about denigrating and deporting an entire religion, and Adolf Hitler?

    Where is the line drawn? How do we know what it is? Wouldn't you rather the media be over concerned about rhetoric that is deemed dangerous than have something pass them by that is too late to condemn? We saw what happened to the Republicans when they just let Trump say whatever he wanted to, whenever he wanted to.
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    Faux News would be calling Hillary 24/7 if she hadn't released her taxes but give Trump a total pass.

    The media has actually treated Trump with kid gloves. His racist past in not renting to people of color is perfectly in line with working with the alt-right Breitbart leader. His bigotry towards Muslims and racist attacks on Latinos should be covered even more.

    Hell last night Trump said this, "We'll get rid of the crime," he promised. "You'll be able to walk down the street without getting shot."

    "Right now you walk down the street, you get shot," he emphasized. "Look at the statistics. We'll straighten it out."

    Talk about racist drivel.

  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by BobStackFan4Life View Post
    lol
    Football. Bloody Hell.

  11. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by RJKarl View Post
    Faux News would be calling Hillary 24/7 if she hadn't released her taxes but give Trump a total pass.

    The media has actually treated Trump with kid gloves. His racist past in not renting to people of color is perfectly in line with working with the alt-right Breitbart leader. His bigotry towards Muslims and racist attacks on Latinos should be covered even more.

    Hell last night Trump said this, "We'll get rid of the crime," he promised. "You'll be able to walk down the street without getting shot."

    "Right now you walk down the street, you get shot," he emphasized. "Look at the statistics. We'll straighten it out."

    Talk about racist drivel.
    Not to mention the child rape case. I'm certainly not saying he's guilty, or even suggesting that it should be brought up, but the case itself it's more real than this whole Hillary health issue or the pure speculation as to what may or may not be in deleted e-mails.
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    The 14 yo thing hasn't been proven. Everything I posted has.

  13. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by CantStandYa View Post
    So Hannity is "informally" advising the Trump campaign. How is it not a major ethical violation for him to still have his show, even if it is on FOX, which hasn't attempted equal time or objectivity since... ever?
    Why would it be an ethical violation? Just because he's on a news channel doesn't mean he's a reporter or a columnist. He's an op-ed talking head. This would be like Maddow advising Hilldawg.

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    NBC Corporate would not allow an active campaign adviser to have a show on any of its networks. She could appear on other shows but not have her own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJKarl View Post
    NBC Corporate would not allow an active campaign adviser to have a show on any of its networks. She could appear on other shows but not have her own.

  16. #176
    Hannity has repeatedly called himself a journalist/not a journalist when it's convenient for him.

  17. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by Deacsfan27 View Post
    I'm not comparing Trump to Hitler at all, just trying to get a scale of things.

    For those of you who think the media has been "too harsh" on Trump---what types of things should people have to say for the media to say "hold on a second, this isn't something that needs to be broadcasted?".

    Somewhere between what Trump is saying about denigrating and deporting an entire religion, and Adolf Hitler?

    Where is the line drawn? How do we know what it is? Wouldn't you rather the media be over concerned about rhetoric that is deemed dangerous than have something pass them by that is too late to condemn? We saw what happened to the Republicans when they just let Trump say whatever he wanted to, whenever he wanted to.
    Seriously?

    Just think about what you wrote. Like him or hate him, you still have to do the news straight or, why bother. Just call the news an opinion piece.

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    knowell, just answer his questions.

  19. #179
    an integral part of the news is deciding what to report and what not to. That's not just an opinion news thing that's all news

  20. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Wakeforest22890 View Post
    an integral part of the news is deciding what to report and what not to. That's not just an opinion news thing that's all news
    So true. Almost all bias is in what is and is not covered.

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