ImTheCaptain
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It's possible they're wrong.
Respect & Patriotism vs. Free Speech & Protest
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It's possible they're wrong.
We all have our own experiences. I don't know any families like yours.
19deac92
You are a meathead.
This is one of the most misguided and insensitive things that I have ever seen posted. You really are an oxygen thief.
This young man, SPC Ross McGinnis, jumped on a grenade, giving his life to save the lives of his four comrades.
Perhaps he was the child of some of our "dumbest citizens," as you posit. (I suspect not.) In any event, we need more people like him and less like you. And as for paying taxes, more people should do it.
Have a bad day
ImTheCaptain
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heroic surely. Just for an awful cause.
Doesnt really negate my point about nationalism and its purpose. Most of our young soldiers come from under privileged backgrounds. I'd say it's a perfect example of misguided patriotism and shitty governance.
Doesnt really negate my point about nationalism and its purpose. Most of our young soldiers come from under privileged backgrounds. I'd say it's a perfect example of misguided patriotism and shitty governance.
Junebug
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This is one of the most misguided and insensitive things that I have ever seen posted. You really are an oxygen thief.
This young man, SPC Ross McGinnis, jumped on a grenade, giving his life to save the lives of his four comrades.
Perhaps he was the child of some of our "dumbest citizens," as you posit. (I suspect not.) In any event, we need more people like him and less like you. And as for paying taxes, more people should do it.
Have a bad day
This post restored my faith in the Tunnels.
This is just awful.
Not according to the data:
There is a widespread perception in the U.S. that enlisted soldiers are poor, uneducated and underprivileged, that they choose to enlist and to serve because they have few other options, and that they risk their lives because they have very little to lose. In reality, however, data shows that American soldiers are relatively wealthy, well-educated, and do not choose to serve as any kind of a last resort.
After Vietnam, the U.S. suddenly possessed a military that was unnecessarily large, expensive, and made up of many who had been drafted. The American government acted swiftly to correct this, discharging a large number of new recruits and conscripted soldiers and switching to an all-volunteer army. There were concerns that an all-volunteer army would be disproportionately comprised of minorities, poor people, and others from relatively unfortunate circumstances.
Over 40 years later, these concerns persist. They have manifested into a false perception that the military is indeed made up mostly of the less fortunate, that its recruiters prey upon the poor or the uneducated. This perception is only loosely based on reality.
Even a quick glance at data of the military's demographics should be enough to cast doubt on this perception. According to a 2008 study by the Heritage Foundation, enlisted recruits in 2006 and 2007 were actually more likely to come from middle or upper class neighborhoods than from lower class ones. In fact, the numbers showed that Americans who came from a neighborhood where the median household income was lower than $40,000 were underrepresented among military recruits during those two years, while those from neighborhoods where the median household income was above $40,000 were overrepresented. There data showed that representation among said recruits increased as neighborhood median household income increased.
The conclusion is simple but surprising: The wealthier the average household is in your neighborhood, the more likely you are to have joined the U.S. military in 2006 and 2007. Considering the sample size, this is likely to be true today, too.
Education is a trickier matter to assess, but the idea that the majority of soldiers are completely uneducated can be easily refuted. According to a 2011 report, 93% of soldiers possess a high school degree and/or some college experience, which means that a soldier is even more likely than the average civilian to possess such a degree. Yet while 82.5% of officers in the military have a bachelor’s degree or higher, that number for enlisted members is only 5.6%. This is due in part to the fact that many young men and women serve in the military as a means of paying for college later in life. But it must be said that these young Americans (defined as 25 years old or younger) make up less than half of enlisted members.
Finally, the perception of the military as a body heavily made up of minorities is also flawed. In 2011, about 30% of active duty soldiers were minorities. Coupled with the 11% of members who identified as Hispanic — Hispanics are not labeled “minorities” by the military, for some reason — it seems that approximately 40% of the U.S. military identifies as non-white, meaning that about 60% of the military is white.
https://mic.com/articles/59699/one-stat-about-the-u-s-military-that-will-surprise-you#.fWJJxkjms
ThinkingWithMyDeac
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Ahh the heritage foundation the beacon of conservative science,
Supplying manipulated facts for your viewing pleasure and talking points since 1973
Supplying manipulated facts for your viewing pleasure and talking points since 1973
tintinisahottie
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It's unfortunate that you were born into an incredibly racist family. I don't think it's as prevalent as you think, but can certainly understand how growing up in such an environment would lead you to believe it is. I hope you can help turn around those beliefs.
Wakeforest22890
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Ignorance sure is bliss.
Wakeforest22890
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I'm sure most of y'all grew up in NC - public school, private school? Heard plenty of racist comments throughout elementary through high school in public school. Also heard plenty of racist comments in the Hoops Room going to wake games as a kid and growing up playing golf at a country club (I suppose the latter isn't too surprising given the demographics).
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Yes, too bad that the entirety of our national police and firefighting force is made up of racists and murderers who never jump in front of bullets or vehicles, run into burning buildings, or otherwise risk their own lives to save others (and especially never when those others have often put themselves in those situations via their own stupid decisions). Why do we even have them? They are clearly all just a front for the KKK and the Fourth Reich.
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#VeteransForKaepernick is a thing, for those interested. Only a matter of time before it gets taken over by trolls.
Junebug
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I assumed Ph meant he thought we need more cops like him because he's dead.
bmoneydeac
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Honest question, have you read the findings of the Ferguson and Baltimore PDs? While not as extreme as your hyperbole, it's pretty clear that these officers as a whole participated in repeated, blatant discrimination. I don't know of any other DOJ department wide investigations so maybe these are anomalies but somehow I doubt it.
Deacsfan27
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I think it's important to clarify between outright racism (calling black people the "n" word to their face/KKK member) vs. quieter racism (making jokes in smaller circles, discriminating in hiring practices, aware of racial biases) vs. implicit and unconscious racism.
PhDeac
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That's horrible.
One of my concerns about the military is the misuse of human capital under the guise of protecting American freedoms. We deploy talented people overseas who could be doing good work here.
sailordeac
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there's a difference between being a soldier and being a policeman
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Even if they are parading in hoods and burning crosses every weekend, does that make them any less heroic for those (of all races) who they protect/save? Ross McGinnis might have been the Grand Wizard, would that make what he did any less heroic?