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Thread: Ongoing Dem Debacle Thread: Katie Hill Destroys the Republic

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheCaptain View Post
    I'm mobile at the moment but he's been super vocal about the cuts to the states for Medicaid WRT to disabled kids funds for schools and one of the more vocal complainers about trumps behavior in general, at least here in PA.
    He also got publicity for fighting to keep a Pennsylvania mother and her child from being deported.

    Casey blasts Trump administration over child deportation

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    Did 923 post this yet?

    What's Wrong With the Democrats?


    Pretty good long read I thought. It's kind toward Elizabeth Warren overall, but I liked this bit about improving messaging around income inquality:

    Nor is Warren’s driving obsession wealth redistribution. That’s important politically, because many Americans simply don’t begrudge wealth, and “inequality” as a clarion call hasn’t stuck. (Indeed, Democrats have begun to shift away from inequality as a label for what ails America’s economy and culture. Some fear that white voters who are predisposed to racial resentments hear the word as code for a desire to transfer wealth from whites to blacks.)

    Rather, Warren is most focused on the concept of fairness. A course she taught early in her career as a law professor, on contracts, got her thinking about the subject. (Fairness, after all, is a contract’s fundamental purpose.) A raw, moralistic conception of fairness—that people shouldn’t get screwed—would become the basis for her crusading. Although she shares Bernie Sanders’s contempt for Wall Street, she doesn’t share his democratic socialism. “I love markets—I believe in markets!” she told me. What drives her to rage is when bankers conspire with government regulators to subvert markets and rig the game. Over the years, she has claimed that it was a romantic view of capitalism that drew her to the Republican Party—and then the party’s infidelity to market principles drove her from it.

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    923 would have posted a link.

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    Franken/Warren 2020, calling it now.
    When in doubt, rub one out -BiffTannen

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    Quote Originally Posted by ONW View Post
    Franken/Warren 2020, calling it now.
    Not a chance in hell that happens. Franken is popular here, but not in the same vein as Amy Klobuchar. And if the right challenger were to come along I'm not sure Franken's popularity would hold up and he'd win re-election to the Senate. Klobuchar on the other hand is very much beloved in this state with wide ranging support that crosses party lines.. She'd clearly make a better candidate than Franken. And Warren? The party needs to move along from her and all the others who are perceived as having created the current mess the party finds itself in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeacMan View Post
    Not a chance in hell that happens. Franken is popular here, but not in the same vein as Amy Klobuchar. And if the right challenger were to come along I'm not sure Franken's popularity would hold up and he'd win re-election to the Senate. Klobuchar on the other hand is very much beloved in this state with wide ranging support that crosses party lines.. She'd clearly make a better candidate than Franken. And Warren? The party needs to move along from her and all the others who are perceived as having created the current mess the party finds itself in.
    I'll put you down as disagreeing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ONW View Post
    I'll put you down as disagreeing.

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    On a national scale I think Franken, right now, makes more sense. But who know what will happen by the time the 2020 cycle comes around (which will seemingly be right after next year's midterm elections)

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    Is there a Democrat named Stein anywhere?

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    i thought Franken was not interested

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    Quote Originally Posted by avalon View Post
    I am a big fan of Elizabeth Warren. I also think its OK to criticize politicians I like if I disagree with them or am suspicious of the timing of their statements. This is the part that upset me:
    Warren will be 71 in 2020. The Dems haven't won with a candidate who was over 60 in his first attempt in nearly 100 years. Plus, it's time for a big change.

    How about this list:

    Castro
    Klobuchar
    Booker
    Gillibrand
    Duckworth
    Newsome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakeforest22890 View Post
    On a national scale I think Franken, right now, makes more sense. But who know what will happen by the time the 2020 cycle comes around (which will seemingly be right after next year's midterm elections)
    As I posted, if Hillary was going to pick an old white guy for VP, it should have been Franken. He could have been the perfect attack dog. He would have done it with humor and been effective in the middle of the country.

    In an off year election that went for the GOP, and even after only winning by 312 votes the first time, Franken won by almost 11% his second time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    Is there a Democrat named Stein anywhere?
    Well, not Jill or Ben. I will accept a Democrat named Berries if we can't find Stein.

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    923 would have posted a link.
    It's possible this is a joke I'm not getting, but the link is there?

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    Sorry. Doesn't show up on tapatalk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    Sorry. Doesn't show up on tapatalk.
    lol tapatalk

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheCaptain View Post
    lol tapatalk
    lol at using a full version website on a phone screen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakeforest22890 View Post
    On a national scale I think Franken, right now, makes more sense. But who know what will happen by the time the 2020 cycle comes around (which will seemingly be right after next year's midterm elections)
    Going by Trump, the 2020 cycle has already started. Or the 2016 cycle never ended. Hard to tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DistrictDeacon View Post
    lol at using a full version website on a phone screen
    na bro, it's 2017

    get a better phone

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheCaptain View Post
    na bro, it's 2017

    get a better phone
    I can't imagine how tiny your fingers have to be to operate ogboards on a phone screen.

    Sorry for losing the genetic lottery.

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