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Ongoing Dem Debacle Thread: Commander will kill us all

Well I sure as fuck want to raise the taxes of a lot of ogboards posters, take their guns, and regulate their businesses. Against their wishes, most likely. I strongly oppose any politician that doesn't want to do that.

MDMH...Your political views...WOOF
 
Many are saying that the GOP is becoming the "Party of Trump". The guy writing this article seems to think that the Democratic Party is rapidly becoming the "Party of MDMH". By the time we get to the 2020 national convention even Bernie himself might be too far to the right.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018...urn-to-left-on-health-care-immigration-class/
That fear mongering bullshit is written by an imbecile. Based on all the handwringing, it's pretty clear that the political pundit class of both parties is very afraid of liberal populism. There is no "broad middle" of economic idealogy. The top 20% of Americans own 85% of the wealth. Do you actually believe that the remaining 80% are low tax moderates? Fuck, the bottom 20% in our country have NEGATIVE WEALTH. Inject this shit in your brain - There. Is. No. Broad. Economic. Middle.

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So you'd rather have a Congress of Scott Pruitts and Jeff Sessions if you can't get PURE progressives...got it...

Anybody rather than panty wastes like OBama & Hillary who were ruining the country. Now Trump is on his way to Making America Great Again. Lower tax rates, kicking North Korea's ass, closing the borders, getting conservative constitutional judges on the courts, Neil Gorsuch on SCOTUS, lowest unemployment for whites, blacks & Hispanics ever, 4% GDP, ending anti-business regulations & strangulations, Keystone pipeline furthering our independence of oil & shale products for which we depend on everything we use, getting rid of MS-13 little by little, withdrawing from the Paris climate accord, withdrawing from the Iran nuclear deal and on & on. Just think, we have 6 1/2 more years of excellence left then Nikki Haley takes over.
 
You misspelled “kissing.”
 
Anybody rather than panty wastes like OBama & Hillary who were ruining the country. Now Trump is on his way to Making America Great Again. Lower tax rates, kicking North Korea's ass, closing the borders, getting conservative constitutional judges on the courts, Neil Gorsuch on SCOTUS, lowest unemployment for whites, blacks & Hispanics ever, 4% GDP, ending anti-business regulations & strangulations, Keystone pipeline furthering our independence of oil & shale products for which we depend on everything we use, getting rid of MS-13 little by little, withdrawing from the Paris climate accord, withdrawing from the Iran nuclear deal and on & on. Just think, we have 6 1/2 more years of excellence left then Nikki Haley takes over.

How exactly have we kicked NK's ass?

Please provide a link for 4% GDP.

Keystone transports Canadian oil. Canada is not our friend anymore.
 
Anybody rather than panty wastes like OBama & Hillary who were ruining the country. Now Trump is on his way to Making America Great Again. Lower tax rates, kicking North Korea's ass, closing the borders, getting conservative constitutional judges on the courts, Neil Gorsuch on SCOTUS, lowest unemployment for whites, blacks & Hispanics ever, 4% GDP, ending anti-business regulations & strangulations, Keystone pipeline furthering our independence of oil & shale products for which we depend on everything we use, getting rid of MS-13 little by little, withdrawing from the Paris climate accord, withdrawing from the Iran nuclear deal and on & on. Just think, we have 6 1/2 more years of excellence left then Nikki Haley takes over.

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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018...otry-and-hatred-trump-and-his-supporters.html

Until recently it was possible to discern a policy-based ideology of elitism. It was the establishment consensus around the benefits of globalization, automation, centralization and uncontrolled immigration. Over the past few decades, this elitist policy agenda was implemented regardless of actual election outcomes. Republicans and Democrats alike encouraged trade deals and financial deregulation that replaced corporate America’s primarily local and national economic outlook with a global one.

Technology was unleashed on the American workplace with no thought given to the wrenching transition this would cause and the massive scale of retraining needed to enable our workforce to cope with it. Political decision-making slipped from the hands of citizens to distant and unaccountable politicians and bureaucrats, as power was centralized at the federal level. A parallel centralization took place in the economy, as over-permissive antitrust policy allowed businesses to get bigger and bigger, reducing competition in sector after sector. And immigration was allowed to increase without limit, undoubtedly bringing its traditional benefits by adding to America’s rich history of innovation and entrepreneurship – but now featuring a dark side too, as the mass importing of cheap labor undercut American workers.

This elitist ideology brought enormous benefits to the elite themselves: astonishing increases in wealth, booming urban centers, a fabulous quality of life for those fortunate enough to be part of the new “knowledge economy.” But for those outside the elite – the 80 percent or so of Americans who were the victims of elitism – the result was less positive. Incomes went down and jobs went away. The social fabric was torn by community disintegration and family breakdown. People lost faith in government, politics – the whole system. They could see that it was working for those with power, not for everyone. This is what led to the populist revolution that helped elect Donald Trump. And the elite’s reaction has been remarkably instructive.

Instead of questioning the components of their ideology, looking for new policies that would help working Americans – or supporting those of the Trump administration designed to do just that – establishment Democrats and Republicans have united around a new elitist ideology. This time, the ideology has nothing to do with policy. The new elitist ideology is personal, visceral, emotional. It starts with selfishness. Because they have benefited so tremendously from the status quo, those in the establishment portray any attempt to change the status quo as “reckless” and “disruptive.” Just look at the hysterical reaction to President Trump’s new trade strategy, or his administration’s tough stance on immigration (not even tough enough for some, by the way).

These measures are presented by the elite as unconscionable assaults on the founding principles of America. But in reality these are simply policy changes that favor the interests of working people over the rich. The elitists gussy up defense of their personal financial gain in the garb of morality and principle, but in the end it’s just pure selfishness. The next component of the new elitist ideology is bigotry. How many times have you heard elitists condemn populist movements for their alleged “bigotry” and “xenophobia?” Let’s remind ourselves what xenophobia means. According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary: “fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign.” That’s a pretty perfect description of the view of Donald Trump’s voters – around half the country, let’s remember – that emerges from the texts of senior FBI officials published this week in the report by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz on the Clinton email investigation.

For example, one of the texts says: “Trump’s supporters are all poor to middle class, lazy, uneducated POS (pieces of s---).” And this: “Just went to a southern Virginia Walmart. I could SMELL the Trump support.” And of course you don’t need private texts to tell you how the elitists feel about Trump supporters. Hillary Clinton told us loud and proud in her “deplorables” speech – and on many occasions since the election as she trundles around the world blaming everyone except herself for her defeat.

But perhaps the defining characteristic of the new elitist ideology – the one that truly brings them all together: from establishment Republicans in Congress, to the intellectually fossilized conservative “intelligentsia,” to the media overlords comfortably ensconced in their affluent hipster enclaves, to the arrogant tech titans of Silicon Valley, to the preposterous and vain Hollywood virtue-signalers like poor old Robert De Niro – is hatred of President Trump. Their brand is hate.
They say that President Trump is undermining democratic norms. But they continue to illegitimize a president duly elected according to the Constitution. They don’t really care about democratic norms, they just hate President Trump. They say that President Trump is mounting an assault on the “rule of law.” But they fawn over James Comey, who Inspector General Horowitz reports went rogue when he was director of the FBI, subverting all proper checks and balances and putting himself above the law. The elites don’t really care about the rule of law, they just hate President Trump.

The elites condemn the president for his warm treatment of the dictator of a brutal regime – but they’ve been sucking up to a far worse regime for years.
China may not be qualitatively worse than North Korea but quantitatively there is much more cruelty and human rights abuse there. At least in President Trump’s case, the motive was avoiding nuclear war. The elite’s China suck-up was just about greed. Members of the elite don't care about the proper conduct of foreign policy. They just hate President Trump.

Look at comedian Bill Maher – saying out loud what every establishment Democrat and Republican is thinking, hoping for bad news on the economy so President Trump can’t claim credit for turning it round. Look at House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., finding a way to spin every piece of good news as a negative. Look further afield – at German Chancellor Angela Merkel trying to spin a positive moment at the G-7 summit into a negative one by tweeting that misleading photo of her and President Trump to make is appear as if they were having an argument.

There is nothing – not more jobs, not higher incomes, not even less risk of nuclear war – that matters more to these elitists than their unhinged hatred of Donald Trump and everything and everyone he stands for.

That is the new and baleful ideology of the elite: selfishness, bigotry and hate.
 
Ongoing Dem Debacle Thread: Litmus Tests for everyone

Amazing all these people railed against the “elitists” by supporting a man who has made a living selling the idea that he’s better than you.
 
Also I can’t believe there’s still the myth that the immigrant came here and took your job where in reality your job no longer exists in the country.
 
So let’s see who wrote that garbage.

Steve Hilton: The elite embrace selfishness, bigotry and hatred of Trump and his supporters

In addition to his role at FNC, Hilton is the co-founder of Crowdpac, an independent and non-partisan Silicon Valley political and data start-up. The organization assists citizens in finding and supporting political candidates whose ideologies match up with theirs. He also teaches at Stanford University’s Institute of Design (d.school) and is the author of the UK “Sunday Times”bestseller "More Human: Designing a World Where People Come First."

Previously, Hilton served as a senior adviser to former United Kingdom Prime Minister David Cameron and, prior to the 2010 general election, was Prime Minister Cameron's head of strategy. Before his work in politics, Steve co-founded Good Business, a consulting firm and the award-winning London Restaurant, The Good Cook.

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So this British Silicon Valley bro/Stanford professor/UK bestseller/business consultant/London restauranteur who literally tells people who to vote for is trying to convince people that “the elites” use technology, globalism, and immigration as tools of hate against small town Americans like BKF.

How do they not realize they’re being played?
 
lol at bkf complaining about liberal elitism, as if he didnt belong to a swath of evangelical middle class riding lawnmower shithead grandads who write off every poor person as lazy. Baby boomers should shut the fuck up about laziness and entitlement, for-eh-ver.
 
lol at bkf complaining about liberal elitism, as if he didnt belong to a swath of evangelical middle class riding lawnmower shithead grandads who write off every poor person as lazy. Baby boomers should shut the fuck up about laziness and entitlement, for-eh-ver.

If you graduated with a degree from a top 25 university and are still poor in this economy, you either are working in a public service field, an artist, or lazy AF. They're really aren't to many other options.

All my friends that graduated from a college just barely above CC level are 1. Solidly successful middle class working Americans or 2. Washed out drug addicts, with not a lot of middle ground.
 
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"you fucking liberals look down your nose at me and call me a racist, I've hired 2 or 3 black people at my family jet ski dealership"
 
"you fucking liberals look down your nose at me and call me a racist, I've hired 2 or 3 black people at my family jet ski dealership"

I can tell the speaker is republican because there is the implication that his/her family unit is actually intact, the family provides a service for the community, and provides a positive impact to the local economy.
 
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Young Women of Color Are Running to Win

Pressley is part of a new generation of politicians who are open about their life stories, including some of the painful details. The 2018 cycle is the first to include numerous women who have been open about the fact that they are survivors of sexual assault, including Pressley.

“My father has gone on to do great things, but for many years was in the throes of addiction and in and out of the criminal-justice system,” she said. “I’m a survivor of sexual abuse and campus sexual assault. So these social ills and these critical social determinants that destabilized my family are destabilizing many families. These experiences are not abstract for me, they’re lived. And lived experience matters.”
 
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