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If Trump ends/cuts Russian sanctions should he be impeached?

Should Trump be impeached for cutting or ending sanctions against Russia?


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See that's what you call bait, see Russia at one time wasn't the big bad player RJ makes them out to be now. However he was very concerned about China and even jihadism!!!

You got me BUT that's "at one time". times change
 
It's ironic that liberals are now attacking Russia. Have the majority ever been against that region before now? Maybe there was criticism after the Communist era endedin the early '90s, maybe. Recently, I remember reading an article about Jay Carney that had pictures of Soviet propaganda posters on the walls of his place. Also the Russian reset button, the '80s called and wanted Mitt Romney's foreign policy back, etc.

Nonetheless, have they released any evidence that it was the Russians? Right now I don't think the government has the credibility to say "trust us, it was the Russians." Protect sources and whatever else and come out with the evidence. In my opinion, this is a rare instance where burning sources is justified.

If you want evidence and to be informed, read this article.

https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.n...ssia-hack-election-dnc.amp.html?client=safari
 
rj, I thought Clinton was great and W was terrible. Comey is not my hero. I'm no right-winger just because I disagree with you. I wasn't with her or him. I just put true facts in my post, including that the current administration viewed Russia favorably or the reset would never have happened.

Never heard of John Reed and the Communist Labor Party of America, Socialist Party of America, etc. They're facts, but you've gotten along well enough not having to address them for so long that, at some point, they no longer mattered to you.

John Reed died in 1920. How is at all relevant to anything? The American Socialist Party never had any power. You made it look like rank and file liberals supported the USSR when it was never anything than splinter groups with no real impact.

As to " Have the majority ever been against that region before now? Maybe there was criticism after the Communist era endedin the early '90s, maybe. "- "Liberals decried the USSR's and Russia lack freedoms for the past hundred years. The majority of US "liberals" were always against the USSR.


And I would think that, having known about the hacks since well before the election, the geniuses in charge could come up with a way to protect sources before some eleventh-hour announcement to thumb the scale on the election. I'm just a guy that wants to see evidence before I determine guilt; you obviously don't.

Neither side has ever given out how they determined intelligence has originated in country A or B. Doing so would compromise how we found the information or given hints of who our live assets are.

Also, I don't understand why Putin wanted Trump to win. HRC seemed much less difficult to deal with and interventionalist than Trump. I guess I'll be awaiting you're ridiculously over the top conspiracy theory with Tillerson.

How is it "ridiculously over the top" to say a person whose future and the future of friends and family would be hugely impacted by allowing a stopped deal, that he personally negotiated, to be enacted, is a "conspiracy theory". He, his friends and his former will directly make billions (as will Putin).
 
Oh, no, I want him out before he even starts. I was pro-recount on the extremely slim chance it would flip the results, I am all for the EC going rogue and risking a civil war. I am very worried about what Trump's environmental policies will do to my birds and other wildlife. I'd impeach him over anything and everything to protect birds.

You don't think that civil war might be a little worse for the environment than a few pro capitalist policies of Trump.

Bird, you are better than this, dude (I hope).
 
rj, I thought Clinton was great and W was terrible. Comey is not my hero. I'm no right-winger just because I disagree with you. I wasn't with her or him. I just put true facts in my post, including that the current administration viewed Russia favorably or the reset would never have happened.

Never heard of John Reed and the Communist Labor Party of America, Socialist Party of America, etc. They're facts, but you've gotten along well enough not having to address them for so long that, at some point, they no longer mattered to you.

And I would think that, having known about the hacks since well before the election, the geniuses in charge could come up with a way to protect sources before some eleventh-hour announcement to thumb the scale on the election. I'm just a guy that wants to see evidence before I determine guilt; you obviously don't.

Also, I don't understand why Putin wanted Trump to win. HRC seemed much less difficult to deal with and interventionalist than Trump. I guess I'll be awaiting you're ridiculously over the top conspiracy theory with Tillerson.


How did John Reed get entangled in this. I used to know Cathy Reed, a descendant of John. I didn't make the connection immediately. Although later seeing a picture of John Reed, I noticed that the resemblance was quite striking. The Russians outed her almost immediately, I was later told, and she didn't deny it. I wonder what she's doing these days. I owe her a lot.
 
You don't think that civil war might be a little worse for the environment than a few pro capitalist policies of Trump.

Bird, you are better than this, dude (I hope).

This part a least is incorrect.

Obviously a civil war would be pretty fucking bad...are jokes no longer permitted on here. Bottom line is, a Trump presidency scares me from a conservation perspective and I am willing to explore all sorts of ways to stop him and his kleptocracy. Impeachment seems like the least dangerous course, even on trumped up charges.
 
You don't think that civil war might be a little worse for the environment than a few pro capitalist policies of Trump.

Bird, you are better than this, dude (I hope).

I love how knowell dismisses every concern from the left as hyperbole but then contends that Trump not being seated would start a civil war.

No hyperbole there. No Sir.
 
I love how knowell dismisses every concern from the left as hyperbole but then contends that Trump not being seated would start a civil war.

No hyperbole there. No Sir.

He was referencing what birdman said
I am all for the EC going rogue and risking a civil war.

I respect birdman's passion/concern for the environment.
 
He was referencing what birdman said


I respect birdman's passion/concern for the environment.

Thanks BSF.

Yes, Knowell was referencing my reference to a civil war. Trump's rural redneck supporters have lots of guns.
 
How did John Reed get entangled in this. I used to know Cathy Reed, a descendant of John. I didn't make the connection immediately. Although later seeing a picture of John Reed, I noticed that the resemblance was quite striking. The Russians outed her almost immediately, I was later told, and she didn't deny it. I wonder what she's doing these days. I owe her a lot.

rj
 

You brought up a guy who has been dead for 96 years. He's a minor character who had little to no power ever. Why you brought is mystifying. Maybe you thought it would make you look smart. His inclusion proves nothing.
 
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Thank you. Finally someone gets it[/QUO

That article has nothing to do with John Reed, the American Socialist Party. or your assertions about a majority of liberals supporting USSR/Russia (which is totally made up BS).

Many here have talking about Russian cyberwar against the US. It was almost all liberals who also opposed the USSR.
 
Why would I be a fan of a communist/socialist? To think I would shows you don't know much about me other than assertions by Rwers here.

That also doesn't address your nonsensical claim that a majority of liberals supported the USSR and/or Russia.
 
Now you want to play the victim. Even Shakespeare would laughing at this. If there's comfort, he'd be laughing at the conversation.
 
Reds is a fantastic film about John Reed.

Ah, yeah, the film glorifying an American socialist, who went to Russia, prqised the Russian Revolution, and then ended up getting thoroughly disillusioned with it, yet still got buried in the Kremlin Wall had an interesting life. IIRC the flick had some big stars and was pretty good. Most interesting is that it was released right the early part of the Reagan presidency.
 
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