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Bracketology 2017

Results from Thursday -

Southern California - took care of business against Oregon State as expected. They are solidly dancing.

Wichita State - beat Missouri State by 18 at home. They're favored to win the MVC, but should be in the field as an at-large, as well.

Indiana - The Hoosiers are playing their way out of the tournament. Lost by 5 versus Purdue in a great opportunity to get back on track. They've now lost 4 of 5 and will struggle to get to an even 9-9 in the Big 10. Sunday at home against Michigan might be a must-win game.

Utah - Barely beat Washington State. They don't pass the eye test, don't have great metrics, and are on the wrong side of the bubble.

Low majors that aren't really on the bubble and likely need to win their conference tournament for any shot at a bid -

Middle Tennessee State - Beat Old Dominion by 13. Won't get an at-large big with the loss @ UTEP last Saturday.

UNC Wilmington - Beat James Madison by 15 at home. They're the most likely on this second set of teams to get a look as an at-large birth. They will need to win out and make it to the CAA finals for any chance of that, though.

Charleston - Lost at home against Northeastern. No chance for an at-large bid.

New Mexico State - After not losing in nearly 4 months, the Aggies lost by 19 on the road to CSU Bakersfield. They'll need to win the WAC to get into the tourney.

Vermont - They won't get an at-large bid, but also haven't lost since December 21. At this pace they look like a 12/13 seed and a popular upset pick.
 
Wake needs to just leave the ACC and head for the Pac-12, play nobody, and go dancing every year.

USC played the 270th hardest OOC schedule and has the 100th hardest schedule in the country so far. They're 4-5 against top 100 KenPom teams which means they've played 16 games against teams outside the top 100. Guess how many ACC teams have played 16 games against teams outside the top 100? It's zero, none are even close (highest number in the ACC is N.C. State at 12)

USC is an 8 seed in the latest bracketology and safely in.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
Wake needs to just leave the ACC and head for the Pac-12, play nobody, and go dancing every year.

USC played the 270th hardest OOC schedule and has the 100th hardest schedule in the country so far. They're 4-5 against top 100 KenPom teams which means they've played 16 games against teams outside the top 100. Guess how many ACC teams have played 16 games against teams outside the top 100? It's zero, none are even close (highest number in the ACC is N.C. State at 12)

USC is an 8 seed in the latest bracketology and safely in.
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sounds like some anti mr and mrs enfield sour grapes
 
Haha hey more power to them. Pac12 teams have the nice fallback that even though they've been a mediocre conference the past few years, they still have the reputation as being big time and their middling teams are treated as such rather than how they should be treated. I'm not saying they're worse than the CAA or anything, but they are worse than the SEC, which is something.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
Haha hey more power to them. Pac12 teams have the nice fallback that even though they've been a mediocre conference the past few years, they still have the reputation as being big time and their middling teams are treated as such rather than how they should be treated. I'm not saying they're worse than the CAA or anything, but they are worse than the SEC, which is something.
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Let's put it this way...their 1-2-3 of UCLA, Arizona, and Oregon would be the 6th-8th ranked teams in the ACC according to KenPom.
 
16-8, 7-5 sure would be nice right now:noidea:

Oh well, let's finish this season hot and make a run in the ACCs for the first time in a decade, or more.
 
If you exclude BC the average ACC team would be ranked higher in Kenpom than the average top 6 Pac 12 team.

Including BC, the average ACC team (both mean and median) would finish 4th in the Pac 12 and be ranked 31 in Kenpom. The average PAC 12 team would finish 13th in the ACC (median would finish 12th) and be ranked 73 in Kenpom.
 
Speaking of the Pac 10, just looked at the conference, and I didn't realize how horrible Oregon State was this year.

They are 4-21 (0-12). One of their four wins was against a non-D1 team. Their other 3 wins were over: #310 Prarie View, #274 UTSA and #161 Kent State. Oregon State has lost to five teams ranked #222 or below including #322 Savannah State. Of their 12 Pac-10 losses 9, have been by double digits including by 26 to USC last night.

At #283, Oregon State must be closing in the worst final ranking by any Power V conference team. Their coach is Wayne Tinkle (really is his name; his son, Tres Tinkle is on the Oregon State roster). He did reasonably well with the players left by Obama's Brother In-Law, but man, the bottom has completely dropped out of the program. Almost impossible for a Power V team with their built in advantages to be that bad, absent a scandal causing a massive roster purge.
 
They are pathetic, but [Redacted]'s first team finished #259 so not a whole lot better.
 
Pilchard said:
Speaking of the Pac 10, just looked at the conference, and I didn't realize how horrible Oregon State was this year.

They are 4-21 (0-12). One of their four wins was against a non-D1 team. Their other 3 wins were over: #310 Prarie View, #274 UTSA and #161 Kent State. Oregon State has lost to five teams ranked #222 or below including #322 Savannah State. Of their 12 Pac-10 losses 9, have been by double digits including by 26 to USC last night.

At #283, Oregon State must be closing in the worst final ranking by any Power V conference team. Their coach is Wayne Tinkle (really is his name; his son, Tres Tinkle is on the Oregon State roster). He did reasonably well with the players left by Obama's Brother In-Law, but man, the bottom has completely dropped out of the program. Almost impossible for a Power V team with their built in advantages to be that bad, absent a scandal causing a massive roster purge.
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Gary Payton's not walking through that door.
 
Indiana currently in Lunardis field over us but their RPI would be the worst ever to make the field by 14 slots.

Obviously have a couple very nice non-conf wins but those only have so much value
 
Bubble Watch blurb:

Wake Forest [14-10 (5-7), RPI: 29, SOS: 14] It is easy to dismiss the Demon Deacons just from glancing at their record, but this appears to be one instance in which the RPI has actually gotten it right: Wake Forest is a pretty good team that played a brutal nonconference schedule, is in an even more demanding conference, and has acquitted itself well throughout -- even if it hasn't finished a few would-be key wins down the stretch. There's still time.
 
I don't understand how Arkansas moved into Lundari's bracket after their losses to Vanderbilt and Missouri the past week.
 
Only one game on the Friday slate of note, but it's a solid A-10 game with bubble implications.

Dayton (18-5, 9-2, RPI 32, KP 34) at Rhode Island (16-7, 8-3, RPI 35, KP 45) - Dayton is generally considered a 7/8-seed, and Rhode Island squarely on the bubble as one of the first four teams in/out. Would be a nice win for the Rams, who are favored by 4. A Dayton win would help keep Rhode Island out, thereby helping Wake.
 
Pilchard said:
Speaking of the Pac 10, just looked at the conference, and I didn't realize how horrible Oregon State was this year.

They are 4-21 (0-12). One of their four wins was against a non-D1 team. Their other 3 wins were over: #310 Prarie View, #274 UTSA and #161 Kent State. Oregon State has lost to five teams ranked #222 or below including #322 Savannah State. Of their 12 Pac-10 losses 9, have been by double digits including by 26 to USC last night.

At #283, Oregon State must be closing in the worst final ranking by any Power V conference team. Their coach is Wayne Tinkle (really is his name; his son, Tres Tinkle is on the Oregon State roster). He did reasonably well with the players left by Obama's Brother In-Law, but man, the bottom has completely dropped out of the program. Almost impossible for a Power V team with their built in advantages to be that bad, absent a scandal causing a massive roster purge.
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Tres Tinkle has been out since November with a broken wrist. Picture Wake without John Collins.
 
Rhode Island up two on Dayton with 5 minutes left at home. Would be great for Wake if Dayton could steal a road win.
 
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