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Thread: Wake Forest Football Recruiting

  1. #8421
    This from a Syracuse, NY writer: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nca...yed/ar-AAPkqvR

    At Wake Forest, the post-game conversation centered on the culture created by head coach Dave Clawson and the decisions of veterans to return to the team, forming one of the ACCís most experienced units. Wake Forest has benefitted from the approach, building a roster that has won its first six games and climbed into the national rankings.

    It is great to have coaches who believe in you more than you can always believe in yourself. Take a fair amount of persistence and courage to see it through.

  2. #8422
    Tate Carney scores a lot of TDS.

  3. #8423
    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyClutch View Post
    Tate Carney scores a lot of TDS.
    That is a good skill for a running back to have.

  4. #8424
    Quote Originally Posted by Deaconblue View Post
    Exactly. It does nobody any good for the staff to recruit and enroll guys who drown academically before they finish a year at Wake.
    Well, it would be nice to be able to take juco kids that pulled their academics together or to be able to take a chance on some kids that may need extra help, and maybe a lot of help, to get up to speed.

  5. #8425
    Quote Originally Posted by Ball State Deac View Post
    Well, it would be nice to be able to take juco kids that pulled their academics together or to be able to take a chance on some kids that may need extra help, and maybe a lot of help, to get up to speed.
    The JuCo issue is much larger than football. It seems that Wake has academic policies in place that make it nearly impossible for a JuCo grad to enroll at Wake and get a degree from Wake in two years. One of my college roomies was a JuCo guy, graduated with a 3.8 and then went to medical school and practiced medicine until his untimely death. He would not get into Wake under today's Wake rules.

    The other issue, getting guys up to speed, is another reason why Clawson likes redshirting freshman. Give the guys time to do that without the pressure of playing big time football games shortly after arriving on campus.

  6. #8426
    Quote Originally Posted by Deaconblue View Post
    The JuCo issue is much larger than football. It seems that Wake has academic policies in place that make it nearly impossible for a JuCo grad to enroll at Wake and get a degree from Wake in two years. One of my college roomies was a JuCo guy, graduated with a 3.8 and then went to medical school and practiced medicine until his untimely death. He would not get into Wake under today's Wake rules.

    The other issue, getting guys up to speed, is another reason why Clawson likes redshirting freshman. Give the guys time to do that without the pressure of playing big time football games shortly after arriving on campus.
    One of my suitemates went 2 years of community college, 2 years Wake, and then Wake law degree. Interesting that Wake does away with the SAT requirement in part b/c of "cultural bias", but then no consideration for kids who for financial, family or other reasons benefit from a year or to at the local cc before going the university route. In particular many of the best/brightest Hispanic kids in N.C. are taking advantage of the generous transfer options that schools like NCSU and UNCW promote for 2-year degreed students. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DownEastDeac View Post
    One of my suitemates went 2 years of community college, 2 years Wake, and then Wake law degree. Interesting that Wake does away with the SAT requirement in part b/c of "cultural bias", but then no consideration for kids who for financial, family or other reasons benefit from a year or to at the local cc before going the university route. In particular many of the best/brightest Hispanic kids in N.C. are taking advantage of the generous transfer options that schools like NCSU and UNCW promote for 2-year degreed students. .
    Well said. Of course, the real story is they want people paying ridiculous Wake tuition for those divisional courses instead of taking them at a CC and transferring in.

  8. #8428
    The JuCo credits transfer policy is one thing about this current Wake Forest University that disappoints me the most.

  9. #8429
    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    Well said. Of course, the real story is they want people paying ridiculous Wake tuition for those divisional courses instead of taking them at a CC and transferring in.
    That economic argument makes no sense Ph. It would only apply if we didn't fill our freshman class every year (which we do). It would actually make more economic sense to bring JUCO or transfers to replace the lost revenue from students who drop out, so there is no economic incentive to exclude JUCO students.

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    The plan you describe would mean excluding transfers beyond enough to replace students who transferred out. Iím not sure what the transfer rate is. Itís probably not that high so your plan may be pretty close to what Wake does now, take a very small number of exceptional CC transfers.

    Thatís not enough to do what DownEast was describing.

  11. #8431
    Grimes was offered by ND. Not good.

  12. #8432
    Quote Originally Posted by DeacsOrDie View Post
    Grimes was offered by ND. Not good.
    It all depends on whether Grimes wants the best coaches at WF or not. Guessing he wants the best so Iím not worried.

  13. #8433
    Donavon was offered by ND and many other big time programs. He didnít visit ND and things have worked out pretty well for him. As far as I know, he has done well academically at WF and was obviously developing into a great ACC receiver and potential NFL prospect until his injury. His parents and family can attend most WF games yet he is far away from home to be able to be ďawayĒ for college. Higgins is a great WR coach. The ACC is appealing to most NC players. Iím sure Grimes has talked to Donavon and has thought about these things plus the cold winters in the corn fields of northern Indiana.

  14. #8434
    Quote Originally Posted by Deaconblue View Post
    The JuCo credits transfer policy is one thing about this current Wake Forest University that disappoints me the most.
    So you want someone who cruises through a cc for 2 years while you bust your ass at WF to get the same degree as you?

  15. #8435
    Quote Originally Posted by wfu22fan View Post
    So you want someone who cruises through a cc for 2 years while you bust your ass at WF to get the same degree as you?
    Yep. That person probably worked twice as hard as I did and overcame a horde of obstacles to get there. The purpose of higher education should be to close the wealth gap, not celebrate it.

  16. #8436
    If our O is designed to let the QB keep and run, why haven't we recruited a QB for that? Can Kearn or Griffis run? Maybe they can and we've just never seen it in a game.

    But I have wondered why we don't go for a more dynamic running QB, more like a Cunningham (Louisville) or Travis (FSU)....

  17. #8437
    Quote Originally Posted by wfu22fan View Post
    So you want someone who cruises through a cc for 2 years while you bust your ass at WF to get the same degree as you?
    This is a real shitty ass post

  18. #8438
    Quote Originally Posted by 80deacon View Post
    If our O is designed to let the QB keep and run, why haven't we recruited a QB for that? Can Kearn or Griffis run? Maybe they can and we've just never seen it in a game.

    But I have wondered why we don't go for a more dynamic running QB, more like a Cunningham (Louisville) or Travis (FSU)....
    Hinton, Newman

  19. #8439
    Quote Originally Posted by BeachBumDeac View Post
    This is a real shitty ass post
    Bullshit. I worked my ass off in tough courses at WF during my first 2 years. I was trying to get into law school and WF had grade deflation at the time. Someone who couldnít get into WF out of high school and attended an easy cc for 2 years shouldnít have been able to transfer in and get the same degree except under special circumstances. This is the policy WF has always used. Otherwise, it would be nuts to attend WF for 4 years. Just save $$ and take English Comp, foreign language, calculus, biology, etc at a cc. You can do that at UNC and most state schools, but not WFU.

  20. #8440
    [QUOTE=Kent;3755815]Yep. That person probably worked twice as hard as I did and overcame a horde of obstacles to get there. The purpose of higher education should be to close the wealth gap, not celebrate it.[/. That person didnít work twice as hard as you at a cc if you spent your first 2 years at WFU.

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