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College basketball bribery scandal

WFUWaldo said:
The benefit is moreso around the endorsment deals. Since they'll be able to sign endorsment deals right out of high school, the top players could easily be looking at a multi-million dollar difference between going to college for a season or going to the G-League.
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and of course adidas will no longer worry about steering kids to the right school - they can just pony up that sweet cash right out in the open
 
PhDeac said:
G League to offer $125K to elite prospects as alternative to college 1-and-done route


https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/leagu...s-alternative-college-route/story?id=58587356

In a move that could challenge the NCAA's monopoly on elite talent, the NBA's G League is creating a new venture as an alternative to the one-and-done route for the best American basketball prospects, league president Malcolm Turner told ESPN.

As part of a newly formed "professional path" starting in the summer of 2019, the G League will offer "Select Contracts" worth $125,000 to elite prospects who are at least 18 years old but not yet eligible for the NBA draft. It will target recent or would-be high school graduates who otherwise would have likely spent just one season playing college basketball, enticing them not only with a six-figure salary but also the opportunity to benefit from NBA infrastructure, as well as a bevy of off-court development programs "geared towards facilitating and accelerating their transition to the pro game," Turner said.
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That's perfect, and quite timely for this thread!
 
thatguy2016 said:
as long as the NCAA governs both, it won't happen, and I don't see the path to men's basketball breaking away from the NCAA that you do
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It would take the top 20ish schools figuring it out (or someone else figuring it out and making an enticing offer) and dragging their conferences with them (the idea that Wake wouldn’t beg to tag along is laughable). I don’t think it’s likely, but it’s not unfathomable.
 
RChildress107 said:
It would take the top 20ish schools figuring it out (or someone else figuring it out and making an enticing offer) and dragging their conferences with them (the idea that Wake wouldn’t beg to tag along is laughable). I don’t think it’s likely, but it’s not unfathomable.
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It's not laughable at all. The president of the university already said Wake wouldn't do it. Could that change? Of course, but it's not laughable that Wake would not opt for that route. There are many great academic schools that do not have D1 football teams - Wash U, Emory, Johns Hopkins, etc.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
so many caveats and mental gymnastics at play here. the only real way to move forward with any integrity is to separate athletics from academics.

too much embedded culturally and financially for that to happen, but until then, it's going to be a highly flawed system with unjust winners and losers.
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I think the basketball landscape is going change dramatically when the NBA ends One and Done. For decades, recruiting has been incredibly easy at the top. The Top 25 guys are typically can't miss for college and they have migrated to just a few schools. With those guys going to the NBA development program after HS, recruiting will become much more difficult and spread out.

Guys like Jay Wright will be even tougher due to his ability to pick stars from guys ranked 30-100 versus Cal, K. etc., just selecting top players and letting the chips fall where they may. The bluebloods aren't used to looking for potential. They simply restock.

I wouldn't be surprised if most of the older, Hall of Fame-type coaches retire rather than have to work this much harder.

I think there's a real chance the quality of play could improve under the new agreement. I also think fans will enjoy having more players staying longer.

There could easily be a restructuring of the top tier.
 
PhDeac said:
Good luck implementing a system that redistributes money from rich white guys to predominantly black male college athletes and not disproportionately white athletes in other sports.
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Damn.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
so many caveats and mental gymnastics at play here. the only real way to move forward with any integrity is to separate athletics from academics.

too much embedded culturally and financially for that to happen, but until then, it's going to be a highly flawed system with unjust winners and losers.
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As Ph just posted, this movement is currently taking place. The G league will be a real alternative now for elite talent, and, there will now be much less incentive for under-the-table money.

One aspect of this discussion that has not been mentioned is that most of the shady dealings are not driven by the student athletes. Rather, they are driven by parents and handlers that are looking to get paid. The FBI wiretaps show this, as have numerous previous examples of schools/coaches being caught.
 
How will the G League offer be drafted?

Will the players be contracted to the NBA team?

Will the G League allow bidding wars for top players?

How will this effect the NBA draft?
 
PhDeac said:
G League to offer $125K to elite prospects as alternative to college 1-and-done route


https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/leagu...s-alternative-college-route/story?id=58587356

In a move that could challenge the NCAA's monopoly on elite talent, the NBA's G League is creating a new venture as an alternative to the one-and-done route for the best American basketball prospects, league president Malcolm Turner told ESPN.

As part of a newly formed "professional path" starting in the summer of 2019, the G League will offer "Select Contracts" worth $125,000 to elite prospects who are at least 18 years old but not yet eligible for the NBA draft. It will target recent or would-be high school graduates who otherwise would have likely spent just one season playing college basketball, enticing them not only with a six-figure salary but also the opportunity to benefit from NBA infrastructure, as well as a bevy of off-court development programs "geared towards facilitating and accelerating their transition to the pro game," Turner said.
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This probably helps Wake become more competitive in the ACC. Landing a guy like Hoard is rare, but landing guys like Chaundee and Massoud is more common. With elite guys able to skip college now its going to be the Chaundee's and Massoud's that win championships. Now the key to a winning coach will be finding underrated guys and developing them when they get on campus.
 
PhDeac said:
G League to offer $125K to elite prospects as alternative to college 1-and-done route


https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/leagu...s-alternative-college-route/story?id=58587356

In a move that could challenge the NCAA's monopoly on elite talent, the NBA's G League is creating a new venture as an alternative to the one-and-done route for the best American basketball prospects, league president Malcolm Turner told ESPN.

As part of a newly formed "professional path" starting in the summer of 2019, the G League will offer "Select Contracts" worth $125,000 to elite prospects who are at least 18 years old but not yet eligible for the NBA draft. It will target recent or would-be high school graduates who otherwise would have likely spent just one season playing college basketball, enticing them not only with a six-figure salary but also the opportunity to benefit from NBA infrastructure, as well as a bevy of off-court development programs "geared towards facilitating and accelerating their transition to the pro game," Turner said.
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Will be interested to see if the eyeballs follow the talent. I still think the best system for the players and the fans (and thus the players) is one tied to universities, at least in the short term.
 
Rafi said:
It's not laughable at all. The president of the university already said Wake wouldn't do it. Could that change? Of course, but it's not laughable that Wake would not opt for that route. There are many great academic schools that do not have D1 football teams - Wash U, Emory, Johns Hopkins, etc.
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I think the president said the university wouldn’t pay players. Not necessarily the same thing as what I’m talking about.

When push comes to shove though, I suspect our BOT will have a different opinion. That would be a lot of revenue to leave on the table for a misguided (at best) principle.
 
RChildress107 said:
Will be interested to see if the eyeballs follow the talent. I still think the best system for the players and the fans (and thus the players) is one tied to universities, at least in the short term.
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Right. Are talented kids going to want to play for the Greensboro Swarm when they could be playing on ESPN every week for Duke and UNC?

If the shoe companies sign players right out of HS, they could get them for relatively cheap compared to after they get 30+ games of publicity.
 
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At $125K, wouldn't a bunch of the Top 15 players be taking pay cuts?
 
Wait, Ph and 107 are now contending that the current college system is more advantageous to elite basketball players than a system where the elite player gets a six figure salary and the unfettered ability to sign endorsement deals, sell his likeness and use whatever other means are available to get paid off his ability?

I thought that your contention was how unfairly exploitative the current college system is?
 
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really concerned that this new G League development will pull talent away from the Los Angeles Ballers of the Junior Basketball Association
 
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