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  1. #181
    thanks for posting that article.

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    Krugman has always sounded the alarm on the GOP phony snake oil tax myth bullshit they peddle to unwitting Americans

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    Susan Collins isn't running for governor and says she is leaning towards supporting tax reform.

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    ...But how can an administration that pretends to be populist, to stand up for ordinary (white) working people, sell such elitist policies?

    The answer is a strategy based entirely on lies. And I mean entirely: The Trump administration and its allies are lying about every aspect of their tax plan.

    I’m not talking about dubious interpretations of evidence or misleading presentation of the facts — the kind of thing the Bush administration used to specialize in. I’m talking about flat-out, easily refuted lies, like the claim that America has the world’s highest taxes (among rich countries, we have close to the lowest), or the claim that estate taxes are a huge burden on small business (almost no small businesses pay any estate tax).

    Nor do I mean that there are just one or two big lies. There are many — so many I literally don’t have space to so much as list them in this column. In a long blog post this past weekend I tried to provide a systematic list; I came up with 10 major Republican lies about tax cuts, and I’m sure I missed a few.

    So, politically, can they really get away with this? A lot depends on how the news media handles it. If an administration spokesperson declares that up is down, will news reports simply say “so-and-so says up is down, but Democrats disagree,” or will they also report that up is not, in fact, down? I wish I were confident about the answer to that question.

    One thing we know for sure, however, is that a great majority of Republican politicians know perfectly well that their party is lying about its tax plan — and every even halfway competent economist aligned with the party definitely understands what’s going on.

    What this means is that everyone who goes along with this plan, or even remains silent in the face of the campaign of mass dissimulation, is complicit — is in effect an accomplice to the most dishonest political selling job in American history.
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    Media has been pressured to pursue "fairness" over truth. That just gives liars equal footing for fear that the gullible will stop watching.

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    They're really gonna get away with this shitty tax plan, eh?
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    Yep, it's going to give the really rich a huge cut and fuck the middle class.

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    So weíre increasing the deficit by over $1T?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bym051d View Post
    So we’re increasing the deficit by over $1T?
    That's assuming his ridiculously pie-in-the-sky numbers.

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    Guess what's going to take a hit. It's your 401k.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...ear-2017-10-20

    Way to stick it to the middle class and expand the retirement crisis

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    Yeah no chance that happens

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    If you cap the amount they can contribute, you cap the match

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    Yeah you want an end to the stock market growth, that would certainly do it.

  14. #194
    Someone remind me why tax reform is a pressing issue again

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    I disagree with you
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    Quote Originally Posted by WakeandBake View Post
    Someone remind me why tax reform is a pressing issue again
    rich people pay big money to win elections. gotta get that ROI

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    oh right, thanks

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    On the flip side I'm not sure I think anyone should have 50% of their income going to taxes.
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    Next Up: Tax Reform

    Seems like taxing 100% of your estate when you die is probably the best for the economy. Then instead of the rich folks parking their money in the market they'll buy some shit.

    Does somewhat encourage the government to murder its citizens , however.
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    or just raise taxes on the highest margins a few points and watch more revenue come in.

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