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Biggest Reform EVER passed thread

Demonwolverine said:
I don't think the bill is immoral. I find lying about who it actually benefits to be extremely disingenuous. Rural America, Trump's base, gets nothing out of this, and they don't even realize it.
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more poor and lower middle class people voted for Hilary than Trump

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ConnorEl said:
Or from responsible states to irresponsible ones.
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It should certainly be interesting to see what happens to Republican congressional and state candidates in blue states in next year's elections. If the Dems are smart and point out that this bill is at least partly a massive transfer of wealth from wealthier states to less-wealthy ones (socialism?) I don't think that bodes well for their chances, even in gerrymandered districts.
 
TownieDeac said:
Very happy for palma! Big day! Big win!
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I'm sure BKF and JH wish they were still around to join in the celebration. They could replay all of their old hits - "Millennials are useless!" "Two parent families will solve poverty!" "This is all the fault of you Democrats and liberals - if only you didn't support teh gheys and weird transgender folk in public restrooms, this bill would never have passed!" LOL.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
more poor and lower middle class people voted for Hilary than Trump

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Interesting. But remember this is heavily impacted by age. Young people (who are earlier in their careers and thus earning less) voted for Clinton by a wide margin. What is a lot more relevant to me is that college grads voted for Clinton by a 4% margin and those with post-grad degrees by TWENTY ONE points. So, the people who are going to be making a lot of money in the future voted for Clinton.
 
that's fine, but the narrative that Trump rode the rural vote to victory reduces the blame the wealthy share for his election
 
Yeah it was never about income levels it was always about education levels, hence rubes. You could be dumb as shit and poor, or dumb as shit and rich and you voted for trump with the tying theme being you are dumb as shit.
 
AT&T to invest 1 billion in USA
AT&T to give 200,000 employees $1000 bonus

Wells Fargo and Fifth Third Bank raise minimum wage to $15

Fifth Third to give 13,000 employed bonus

The Dems are fucked
 
Highland Deac said:
As I expected, the real joy most Republicans are getting from this bill has little to nothing to do with its contents (which will not benefit the great majority of them), but rather from being able to crow about Trump finally get some major legislation passed (however dubious its value), and verbally taunt and ridicule Democrats and liberals, just as they did after the presidential election last year. That's certainly the gist I get on here, and on facebook and other social media today. "Are liberals crying yet? #MAGA!"
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Yeah, I think thats the theme of the Trump presidency. Nobody actually likes trump, they were just sick of the over the top love of Hillary.

Nothing will top election night when they kept showing that room where Hillary was supposed to arrive for her coronation. It was priceless.
 
marquee moon said:
AT&T to invest 1 billion in USA
AT&T to give 200,000 employees $1000 bonus

Wells Fargo and Fifth Third Bank raise minimum wage to $15

Fifth Third to give 13,000 employed bonus

The Dems are fucked
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Dems will be fine. They have Louis Gossett Jr. to let them know that $200 million in bonuses is nothing but crumbs.
 
pinochadeac said:
Yeah, I think thats the theme of the Trump presidency. Nobody actually likes trump, they were just sick of the over the top love of Hillary.

Nothing will top election night when they kept showing that room where Hillary was supposed to arrive for her coronation. It was priceless.
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#governing
 
Like I said earlier in the thread, it's a team sport now. Nobody gives a shit about substance, just about victories along the way.
 
Wells Fargo will gain $3.7 billion next year due to tax bill. They will spend 2% of that on salary increases.

Does 2% count as enough trickle?


(BTW $15 an hour will be mandatory in California in a few years anyways)
 
WakeandBake said:
Wow the GOP got another trickle-down long con over on the rubes. Some marks will always be marks I guess.
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People dont vote for tax bills, they vote for political wins. People associate the two parties with cultural identity - traditional god fearing, hard working, rural white people are Republicans, so they vote for Republicans. They will ignorantly support any legislation their Republican reps pass, because they blindly trust them.

The same is true for many Dems, mostly older loyal party line voters who are detached from the direct effect of politics. They will blindly support any Dem policy, and view every Dem election as a win for their team.
 
marquee moon said:
AT&T to invest 1 billion in USA
AT&T to give 200,000 employees $1000 bonus

Wells Fargo and Fifth Third Bank raise minimum wage to $15

Fifth Third to give 13,000 employed bonus

The Dems are fucked
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Per the Twitter AT&T was already giving its employees a bonus and they're actually only going to do it if there's an agreement reached with the union by mid-January - it's being used as an incentive to bypass better labor negotiations.
 
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